National Forum

2022 All-Ireland Hurling Championship thread

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To Ban:  "I dont get why any sport is so eager to eliminate teams! We are 2 weeks away from the June bank holiday weekend and teams like Waterford, Tipp and Dublin are done for the year. We only started the competition a few weeks ago!
The Round Robin is extremely unforgiven. Man City have had periods during the season where they under performed for a couple of weeks. Our lads are finished if they go through the same!
I'd love a league of 10 teams with the top 2 going into the All-Ireland semi finals and teams 3-6 going into play-offs for the other 2 semi final spots. relegation in place. Run the provincials as knockouts in parallel to the league Championship. This is a format similar to what's used in nearly every team sport in the world. You never hear supporters give out about it."
Sure if you are going to do that just make 4 groups of 4 like the football.

Top seed: Limerick, Clare, Galway, Kilkenny
2nd: Cork, Waterford, Wexford, Dublin
3rd: Tipperary, Westmeath, Laois, Antrim
4th: Kerry, Offaly Carlow, Down

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 175 - 22/05/2022 20:52:10    2419530

Link

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "In 1979 Babs Keating (Tipperary) was in charge of Galway when they got to All Ireland final to play KIlkenny"
Yes and Galway lost that match but came back to win the following year with Cyril Farrell in charge.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1718 - 22/05/2022 20:53:43    2419531

Link

Replying To football first:  "Despite the hype, there are serious problems with the round-robin championship system. The finalists decided before today's final round of fixtures in Munster, and two very one-sided games today.
Add in the fact that there were three very one-sided finals in the lower tiers yesterday…."
Its not perfect but if you look at the table in munster there's no arguing with the final standings. It weeded out the dregs and the two best teams by far are in the final.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1575 - 22/05/2022 20:54:07    2419533

Link

Lohan taking off Quilligan to give our sub goalkeeper a run was somewhat disrespectful IMO but it showed how comfortable we were in that game today.
Waterford not at the races at all. Although I have been preaching all year that they are overhyped, they are better than what they showed today.

Clare really riding the crest of a wave at the moment. Confidence oozing through the panel.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2228 - 22/05/2022 20:54:19    2419535

Link

People are always looking to change things, the current system is the best we have. I love the round robin, great days away and home.

Championship should start a month later and finish a month later but other than that, there are enough games and I love the rivalry of the Munster Championship.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2228 - 22/05/2022 21:08:03    2419542

Link

Very anticlimactic day today. Waterford and Tipp will have a long winter ahead of them. I think it's more the case for Waterford. I felt they went through the motions the entire day and must have been a chastening experience for the sideline. Something is definitely not right there since the limerick match. It's a pity as the county is starved of success and I feel for their genuine fan. I felt in the gaelic grounds they had a pitiful support and their players deserved more. Excuses can be made of time and distance but not for me.

Tipp showed nothing today from what I saw v Waterford and Limerick. They started well and then they completely lost all composure and belief. Bonnar has a huge rebuild there.

Down to the last 6 and everyone will be hopeful. The big stuff starts now. Everything up to now was to put yourself into a position to kick on.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 793 - 22/05/2022 21:21:10    2419550

Link

Replying To skirge7:  "Sure if you are going to do that just make 4 groups of 4 like the football.

Top seed: Limerick, Clare, Galway, Kilkenny
2nd: Cork, Waterford, Wexford, Dublin
3rd: Tipperary, Westmeath, Laois, Antrim
4th: Kerry, Offaly Carlow, Down"
Because players and supports like games. It why they train like professionals

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1289 - 22/05/2022 21:40:29    2419553

Link

Replying To Viking66:  "What about the club championships Ban? Looking forward to ours already. The lads have been training hard for them the last few months."
4 months would see the lot done. All-Ireland final end of July.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1289 - 22/05/2022 21:42:34    2419554

Link

Replying To endgame:  "Yes and Galway lost that match but came back to win the following year with Cyril Farrell in charge."
yes indeed and in 79 Babs picked a Tipp goalkeeper Seamus Shinnors to play for Galway but Michael Conneely was back in goals again in 1980

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 22/05/2022 22:02:39    2419557

Link

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "yes indeed and in 79 Babs picked a Tipp goalkeeper Seamus Shinnors to play for Galway but Michael Conneely was back in goals again in 1980"
Was Seamus not in goal in 75?

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 23/05/2022 07:28:53    2419558

Link

I don't know about this new format. We were not good enough having lost to both Galway and Kilkenny but is it in hurling's interest to shut the shop window for 5 top counties on the day the premiership finishes?
I think the round robin should be starting now, play 5 rounds over 6 weeks. That brings us up to the middle of July, All-Ireland semi and final then 1st couple of weeks in August.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 177 - 23/05/2022 08:54:02    2419570

Link

Replying To Oldtourman:  "Was Seamus not in goal in 75?"
It was Conneely OTM. I read an article about that final recently. Here's an excerpt about Pat Henderson's words of encouragement to Frank Burke:
Burke was trudging sadly in the direction of the dressing room afterwards when he was collared by Pat Henderson, his marker. "I know you'll be very disappointed," Henderson told him. "Ye were nervous and anxious there. But stick at it and ye'll win an All-Ireland."
Henderson wasn't just being polite, Burke reflects. "He actually meant it."

Fair play to Pat Henderson, a true sportsman.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1254 - 23/05/2022 11:28:38    2419630

Link

Good luck to all the teams left in the championship. We were hammered by a shadow Clare side fair play to them. So before it is said we are not better than that. I don't know what we were up to and knew what was going to happen when that team was named. Liam Cahill has had my support in Waterford but taken a team a part like this was madness. They did not have a clue where they were playing. Also this naming a dummy team is terrible and totally unfair to the people who support the team. How did it work any way ? I and my family have done this for well over 60 years both attending and financially. Waterford are always the last team to name on Friday night and this time took it another step.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2090 - 23/05/2022 14:42:05    2419748

Link

Replying To Ban:  "I dont get why any sport is so eager to eliminate teams! We are 2 weeks away from the June bank holiday weekend and teams like Waterford, Tipp and Dublin are done for the year. We only started the competition a few weeks ago!
The Round Robin is extremely unforgiven. Man City have had periods during the season where they under performed for a couple of weeks. Our lads are finished if they go through the same!
I'd love a league of 10 teams with the top 2 going into the All-Ireland semi finals and teams 3-6 going into play-offs for the other 2 semi final spots. relegation in place. Run the provincials as knockouts in parallel to the league Championship. This is a format similar to what's used in nearly every team sport in the world. You never hear supporters give out about it."
It's what the inter county players wanted and the so called cpa a split season,county then club.When that happened the cpa went to the ditch,it's a disaster club players waiting all summer for a match,they can't even go to America and play if they wanted to.

Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 120 - 23/05/2022 14:49:52    2419751

Link

Replying To daveboy:  "Very anticlimactic day today. Waterford and Tipp will have a long winter ahead of them. I think it's more the case for Waterford. I felt they went through the motions the entire day and must have been a chastening experience for the sideline. Something is definitely not right there since the limerick match. It's a pity as the county is starved of success and I feel for their genuine fan. I felt in the gaelic grounds they had a pitiful support and their players deserved more. Excuses can be made of time and distance but not for me.

Tipp showed nothing today from what I saw v Waterford and Limerick. They started well and then they completely lost all composure and belief. Bonnar has a huge rebuild there.

Down to the last 6 and everyone will be hopeful. The big stuff starts now. Everything up to now was to put yourself into a position to kick on."
Looking for more support while naming dummy teams. Our family have supported every way since 1938 but I will have to think twice about it going forward.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2090 - 23/05/2022 15:03:37    2419754

Link

Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Lohan taking off Quilligan to give our sub goalkeeper a run was somewhat disrespectful IMO but it showed how comfortable we were in that game today.
Waterford not at the races at all. Although I have been preaching all year that they are overhyped, they are better than what they showed today.

Clare really riding the crest of a wave at the moment. Confidence oozing through the panel."
No we are not better than that. I said when all this talk about dept was been said that we had lots of players who were equal to each other but asked were they better than the opposition ? Madness to take the team a part anyway and I knew we were done when the dummy team was announced. Not sure which was. The one played or the one named. Scandalous treatment of supporters. It is said it was all over Dungarvan on Saturday night.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2090 - 23/05/2022 15:04:41    2419755

Link

Replying To Canuck:  "No we are not better than that. I said when all this talk about dept was been said that we had lots of players who were equal to each other but asked were they better than the opposition ? Madness to take the team a part anyway and I knew we were done when the dummy team was announced. Not sure which was. The one played or the one named. Scandalous treatment of supporters. It is said it was all over Dungarvan on Saturday night."
I'd be asking why the team was all over Dungarvan the night before? That's a very bad sign. Any truth that there was a lot of animosity in the group of late? They looked like a team going through the motions yesterday. I wouldn't focus on dummy teams. They are commonly used

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 793 - 23/05/2022 15:25:30    2419767

Link

The big disappointment of the whole thing was that yesterday felt like an obligation. At least Saturday had the vibe of things at stake.
I was studying and it didn't bother me missing the Munster Championship matches.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1610 - 23/05/2022 15:26:19    2419768

Link

If Kerry win the McDonough will they play Tipp in a relegation playoff for Munster?

TheDigger (USA) - Posts: 76 - 23/05/2022 15:28:27    2419770

Link

waterford are not as bad as they looked yesterday and not as good as derek mcgrath was making out....they were beat for the last 2 years by 11 points by limerick how some people made out they were all ireland favourites is beyond me.....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1023 - 23/05/2022 15:35:05    2419778

Link