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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What about it? I was born in 96 so don't remember.
What did you learn the hard way?"
Watch Lochra Gael, on either Liam Dunne or Gary Kirby and you will know.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 11/05/2022 13:17:34    2416493

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Well I don't put any weight on your opinion either so I guess we're all equal.
Brian Gavin was a top referee.
Those lads on that podcast are hear no evil see no evil lads anyway, and Dalo would never say a bad word about his former remunerators. Its a terrible podcast full of boring yarns.
James Skehill on The Hurling Podcast said straight red. And that is a far more measured podcast than the tripe on Dalo's show."
Agreed, Gavin was good then. Reffing, like the game in general has moved on so much in the meantime. Gavin is way in the rear view mirror now…a Babs. It's like watching black and white TV.

And Skehill? Wasn't he a goalie? You'd rate the opinion of a goalie over men who played outfield in the real cut and thrust of the game?

It wasn't a red. It isn't a red. And never will be.

Focus your energy on supporting your county in trying to beat KK or whatever team they have up next, instead of trying to flog a dead horse. Close this topic; without a shadow of a doubt, not a red card; and move on.

This is what really bogs Wexford and it's supporters down, spending too much energy and focus on extracurricular activities, when they could be spending that time and energy on trying to promote positivity within your own county, instead of peering for negativity in other counties.

Man up, and move on, as we say in the USA.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 11/05/2022 13:25:31    2416496

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Not sure it's a psychological thing. They're always well up for it. More that the better teams have had their number once it gets to the last 6 of championship.

My measure is how comfortably Kilkenny have beaten them last two years - even taking into account the heroic comeback in 2020 - and how they have performed against Cork.

In both those play off games, Dublin got stuck in, started well and then Cork just seemed to be that bit better at doing what Dublin were trying to do, and with better finishers! Defence is excellent and some good forwards but missing a reliable goal scorer, Hayes has been disappointing to date. MacBride and Mellett have potential but a Trollier or Dotise O'Callaghan at his best is the missing ingredient.

But, still hopeful."
Is O Sullivan far off returning from injury?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 11/05/2022 13:39:42    2416500

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Replying To Viking66:  "Is O Sullivan far off returning from injury?"
Not heard any indication he'll be back for Saturday. I'd forgotten about him. He's a loss certainly upfront.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3102 - 11/05/2022 14:03:20    2416510

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Agreed, Gavin was good then. Reffing, like the game in general has moved on so much in the meantime. Gavin is way in the rear view mirror now…a Babs. It's like watching black and white TV.

And Skehill? Wasn't he a goalie? You'd rate the opinion of a goalie over men who played outfield in the real cut and thrust of the game?

It wasn't a red. It isn't a red. And never will be.

Focus your energy on supporting your county in trying to beat KK or whatever team they have up next, instead of trying to flog a dead horse. Close this topic; without a shadow of a doubt, not a red card; and move on.

This is what really bogs Wexford and it's supporters down, spending too much energy and focus on extracurricular activities, when they could be spending that time and energy on trying to promote positivity within your own county, instead of peering for negativity in other counties.

Man up, and move on, as we say in the USA."
100%

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 11/05/2022 14:04:42    2416511

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Not heard any indication he'll be back for Saturday. I'd forgotten about him. He's a loss certainly upfront."
What I'd really like is for you to win your last 2 games and us to win our last 2 by a load of points and then we will meet in Croke Park. I'm not rushing down the bookies with that accum though!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 11/05/2022 14:25:55    2416520

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "You're having a laugh saying it wasn't a free. Debatable if it was a red but definitely a yellow. Another ref could easily have sent him off. As storeystash said it all depends on the referee's interpretation of the strike and gillane got the benefit in this case"
Was always a free but Yellow at most,he should of been sent off last year in the Munster final but this is a nothing incident and ref was just about right.Free all day, yellow card debatable.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 11/05/2022 14:59:57    2416528

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Replying To daveboy:  "I'd agree with you. Ennis will be hostile Sunday which makes it a great occasion. Both sets of players will relish it. Limerick a bit like '18 go down with pressure off really if you're being honest but kiely will still demand a performance. I think clare have a great chance as its not do or die for limerick and that little edge may not be there from a limerick perspective. Clare will not want to have to be looking to Waterford the following week to secure their path out.

Interestingly if Waterford beat cork in the 2pm match then both clare and Limerick will both be through. I wonder would that change the dynamic slightly? I know both camps will be saying they won't be focused on the other match but surely before throw in the result will be known. If cork beat Waterford then clare will know they need a big performance"
I don't know why but I think Clare want to be in a munster final more than Waterford. I think they'll go for it big time on Sunday and potentially the week after too. Obviously everyone will take where the cards fall. Main thing is to get out of the round robin. Cusack Park is a tough spot for any team to go to.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 367 - 11/05/2022 15:12:09    2416533

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I'd expect both teams to go full blooded for this one..I'd be leaving gillane and hegarty out of this one..they could do with a break..also think donohue might need a break..however I don't think kiely and the boys think my way.,

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2373 - 11/05/2022 15:50:57    2416541

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "It depends whether you deem him pulling from behind or around the body of an opponent as being an attempt to play the ball.
You could just as equally deem it "Category III Infractions" :
5.17 To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with a hurley, with minimal force.
That is how I viewed it at the time (live at the match).
Its not case closed because a few pundits decide it is, most hurling pundits want lads being decapitated and it being "manly play".
I would put far more weight on the opinion of Brian Gavin."
It's case closed because Liam Gordon issued a yellow card and closed it. There was no mention of the slap on the shins that Graeme Mulchay got from one of the tipp backs. He also got a yellow card for a "strike" of a Hurley but no more about it. Unlike Maher Mul was genuinely injured. Maher looked at the referee first, then decided he was badly injured and went down looking for an Oscar. Terrible stuff.

Just because it's Aaron Gillane who is currently the front runner for HOTY everyone other fans jump at the chance of trying to get him red carded. Teams need to learn how to beat Limerick with 15 men on the field and not bank on theatrics to get a few lads sent off.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 11/05/2022 16:58:47    2416569

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Replying To Clubgaa:  "Watch Lochra Gael, on either Liam Dunne or Gary Kirby and you will know."
Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about that, 2 lads trying to "lay down a marker" and the one who came off worst crying foul when his team couldn't even beat 14 men. And 25 years on still bringing it up. LOL.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 11/05/2022 17:23:16    2416575

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "EVERY county is at this. My helmet is showing the scars of battle but I have got an injury which needed it taken off once when I got an ear injury.
If you get hit in the helmet, you haven't been shot. You have got a high tackle and there is no need to go down, roll around holding your head. If the impact is really debilitating, then you shouldn't be able to play on.
Best thing to do, bring in a mandatory HIA if the helmet comes off. This will end quickly."
Great suggestion to stop some of this nonsense. Also go to the dressing rooms before the game and tell the players any time the free hand is wrapped around an opponents neck you will be red carded. It will stop that the same way as pulling helmets off did. All the emphasis now is on throwing the ball and I am not saying it should not be penalized but very subjective also. I don't believe anyone was ever injured throwing the ball. Player safety first before some one gets a serious neck injury.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 11/05/2022 18:10:49    2416583

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about that, 2 lads trying to "lay down a marker" and the one who came off worst crying foul when his team couldn't even beat 14 men. And 25 years on still bringing it up. LOL."
Just like you crying about a Tipp lad last Sunday, dry your eyes and move on, the championship is starting to warm up and a few decisive matches next weekend.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 11/05/2022 18:15:56    2416586

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about that, 2 lads trying to "lay down a marker" and the one who came off worst crying foul when his team couldn't even beat 14 men. And 25 years on still bringing it up. LOL."
Ya we were cat the same day

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 11/05/2022 18:34:48    2416589

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about that, 2 lads trying to "lay down a marker" and the one who came off worst crying foul when his team couldn't even beat 14 men. And 25 years on still bringing it up. LOL."
Did they breach team protocol,I wonder! ;)

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 12/05/2022 08:25:57    2416612

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about that, 2 lads trying to "lay down a marker" and the one who came off worst crying foul when his team couldn't even beat 14 men. And 25 years on still bringing it up. LOL."
You're facts aren't correct in that incident. The Wexford guy got sent off because he started it. But you're right it's a long time ago and both counties have gone on vastly different trajectories even though one of those counties has a huge rugby playing population. I for one would love that Wexford/Limerick rivalry reignite.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 12/05/2022 08:48:45    2416613

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You're facts aren't correct in that incident. The Wexford guy got sent off because he started it. But you're right it's a long time ago and both counties have gone on vastly different trajectories even though one of those counties has a huge rugby playing population. I for one would love that Wexford/Limerick rivalry reignite."
Seems to have well and truly reignited on HS over the past year or so!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/05/2022 09:56:41    2416624

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Agreed. There's nothing between the leinster 4"
Whilst I didn't expect this at the beginning of the year, I do think Galway appear to be ahead of Wexford (whom they should have beaten reasonably comfortable) and KK who they did best by a point but in reality was a 4/5 point cushion but for very soft goals. The Dublin game will be interesting as they've become our 'bogey' team

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 50 - 12/05/2022 10:09:43    2416626

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Seems to have well and truly reignited on HS over the past year or so!"
Unfortunately this **** ain't real though Tiobraid !!! We are a long way off Limerick on the pitch at the moment!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 12/05/2022 10:16:41    2416629

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Replying To mr305:  "Whilst I didn't expect this at the beginning of the year, I do think Galway appear to be ahead of Wexford (whom they should have beaten reasonably comfortable) and KK who they did best by a point but in reality was a 4/5 point cushion but for very soft goals. The Dublin game will be interesting as they've become our 'bogey' team"
Perhaps we're both biased.

Both teams were shocking in the first half, but we were worse.

We missed a penalty in the game, and in my opinion dominated entirely once we started playing. But it's no good only turning up for 20 minutes so was a lucky escape for us.

Galway were much the better side against kilkenny for most of the game but were lucky to win in the end.

We were excellent in the second half against Dublin, probably deserved a draw but lost due to very poor shooting and missing another penalty.

In saying that, if by some miracle we meet again this year, it's probably 51/49 game in favour of Galway.

There's plenty of hurling left yet, and these things tend to balance out over a season.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3131 - 12/05/2022 11:05:04    2416640

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