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It seemed almost every time Limerick scored in the second half last Sunday some Tipp player or other ended up downand being attended to, even when nobody went near them. I am not sure it was a tactic, but it looked awful
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4465 - 10/05/2022 19:39:17 2416381 Link 0 |
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I only got time to listen to Dalo's Examiner Podcast today but Shane McGrath did the sensible thing. He actually went to the rule book about the Gillane incident. 5.5 To make "a pull" with the hurley from behind and around the body of an opponent that is not consis- tent with an attempt to play the ball. It warrants a yellow card - NOT A RED Chapter closed. Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 10/05/2022 19:45:11 2416382 Link 1 |
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Agreed. There's nothing between the leinster 4
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3131 - 11/05/2022 08:47:42 2416403 Link 0 |
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It is very frustrating. I get the need if a player gets a full frontal shoulder or that. The other big frustration for me is the players "ducking in to the hurl". Every county has these merchants as well. "Oh there's a high arm, I'll just duck down, grab it and then pull the hurl around my neck and get a free and take off my helmet". There is 1 club in Wexford who I hate hurling for this very reason.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 11/05/2022 09:58:20 2416410 Link 2 |
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A lot of people were depending on the team limerick might pick. Personally I think kiely will go as strong as he can after hearing the interview after tipp match. Anyone that's carrying any sort of knock won't be risked which could be a few and that's why people are fancying clare. Personally I think limerick will be well up for this
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 11/05/2022 10:04:28 2416414 Link 0 |
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100%. Listened to it myself. Landers and mcgrath both confirmed not a red.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 11/05/2022 10:08:51 2416419 Link 1 |
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It depends whether you deem him pulling from behind or around the body of an opponent as being an attempt to play the ball. You could just as equally deem it "Category III Infractions" : 5.17 To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with a hurley, with minimal force. That is how I viewed it at the time (live at the match). Its not case closed because a few pundits decide it is, most hurling pundits want lads being decapitated and it being "manly play". I would put far more weight on the opinion of Brian Gavin. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 11/05/2022 10:34:14 2416432 Link 1 |
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Gillane pulled out of the challenge, twas hardly a free and of course Maher went down like Ronaldo would in soccer.
Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 11/05/2022 11:14:21 2416444 Link 3 |
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Not sure it's a psychological thing. They're always well up for it. More that the better teams have had their number once it gets to the last 6 of championship. My measure is how comfortably Kilkenny have beaten them last two years - even taking into account the heroic comeback in 2020 - and how they have performed against Cork. In both those play off games, Dublin got stuck in, started well and then Cork just seemed to be that bit better at doing what Dublin were trying to do, and with better finishers! Defence is excellent and some good forwards but missing a reliable goal scorer, Hayes has been disappointing to date. MacBride and Mellett have potential but a Trollier or Dotise O'Callaghan at his best is the missing ingredient. But, still hopeful. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3100 - 11/05/2022 11:36:16 2416451 Link 0 |
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It is case closed. Referee dealt with it. Clare next Sunday. Can't wait.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 11/05/2022 11:43:24 2416456 Link 0 |
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You have to be at a game though to see the punishment and verbals the likes of a Gillane and a Hegarty take, there is nothing ever made of this. Whatever happens to them is irrelevant, its what they do that makes headlines and gets the social media types who never go to games but see the highlights on the Sunday game banging on their keyboard. If for example, Hegarty walked on someones back on Sunday you can guarantee it would be examined over and over again to see if there was intent there and social media would be alive with calls that he should be sent off, when a Tipp player does it then its a non event not worth looking at. I'll admit when i saw the incident in real time i thought Gillane might go but when i saw the replay later i think the ref called it right. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 410 - 11/05/2022 11:56:12 2416459 Link 1 |
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You're having a laugh saying it wasn't a free. Debatable if it was a red but definitely a yellow. Another ref could easily have sent him off. As storeystash said it all depends on the referee's interpretation of the strike and gillane got the benefit in this case
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 528 - 11/05/2022 12:01:01 2416460 Link 0 |
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Given Limerick have a bye in last round and will probably win Munster they have plenty of weeks off. I think now he will go full strength or very close to it. He wont have been happy with last weekend and will also want to put the focus back on hurling so I'd be surprised if they arent full strength. It will be a tough game though I think.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/05/2022 12:04:55 2416462 Link 1 |
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What about Liam Dunne in '96, we learned the hard way.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 11/05/2022 12:05:25 2416463 Link 1 |
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I don't put much weight of Gavin's opinion, nor yours neither! Shane McGrath, a Tipp man, provides the best explanation. And it's no yellow card, according to that explanation. Has any pundit or guy who has played the game yet to say it should have warranted red? Did Gavin ever even play hurling? He is nothing but a smug retired referee, who indulges nobody but himself (and a few clownish onlookers) about how good his own refereeing was back in the day. He's the Babs Keating of refereeing. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 11/05/2022 12:09:49 2416465 Link 2 |
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I'd agree with you. Ennis will be hostile Sunday which makes it a great occasion. Both sets of players will relish it. Limerick a bit like '18 go down with pressure off really if you're being honest but kiely will still demand a performance. I think clare have a great chance as its not do or die for limerick and that little edge may not be there from a limerick perspective. Clare will not want to have to be looking to Waterford the following week to secure their path out. Interestingly if Waterford beat cork in the 2pm match then both clare and Limerick will both be through. I wonder would that change the dynamic slightly? I know both camps will be saying they won't be focused on the other match but surely before throw in the result will be known. If cork beat Waterford then clare will know they need a big performance daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 11/05/2022 12:19:29 2416470 Link 0 |
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Here we go again… boring
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 528 - 11/05/2022 12:28:05 2416473 Link 0 |
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What about it? I was born in 96 so don't remember. What did you learn the hard way? StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 11/05/2022 12:47:24 2416475 Link 0 |
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Well I don't put any weight on your opinion either so I guess we're all equal. Brian Gavin was a top referee. Those lads on that podcast are hear no evil see no evil lads anyway, and Dalo would never say a bad word about his former remunerators. Its a terrible podcast full of boring yarns. James Skehill on The Hurling Podcast said straight red. And that is a far more measured podcast than the tripe on Dalo's show. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 11/05/2022 12:51:45 2416478 Link 3 |
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Ah lighten up will you, you getting wound up about a Tipp player and a mistimed challenge/dirty stroke whatever you want to call it. Nobody died, there all big boys and to win AI every team has players pushing the limits.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 11/05/2022 13:12:17 2416487 Link 0 |