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Replying To Bon:  "He let in a poor one against Laois too."
Only thing settled in Leinster is that Galway will take one of the 3 qualifying spots.

Last two and the final pairing still in the balance and only thing certain is that Wexford have to beat the Cats on their own pitch. Not easily done especially when Kilkenny will need a win to guarantee a final place regardless of what happens in Parnell.

Dublin in a good position. Getting something from the last two games would not only secure a third place but most likely a final. A final and a last six standing would be a good return for the year. Only beaten once so far this year in 13 games and expect at least one more big performance.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 03/05/2022 18:07:30    2414729

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I think Murphys form has noticably dipped the last couple of seasons. Padraic Mannions point hit the top of the cross bar. He almost cost KK last year vs Wexford and P Mannions point came off the top of the cross bar on Sunday. Hes still one of the best but not the best anymore in my opinion."
Yeah, don't know how he was considered better than Quaid last year to get the all-star..

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 04/05/2022 09:36:11    2414778

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Replying To katser:  "Galway's victory over Kilkenny has guaranteed us to finish minimum 3rd, it doesn't matter what happens in the remaining games We will be at worst in the All Ireland Quarter Finals. But I have tipped us from the outstart to be Leinster Champions and a very dangerous opponent in the All Ireland Semi Finals."
Technically, at worst you could go out in the preliminary match against the Joe Mcdonagh team.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 04/05/2022 09:38:08    2414779

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Whats your honest opinion on the game slayer? I think regardless of the Limerick personnel avaiable that anyone would be foolish not to predict a comfortable Limerick win. I think there simply has to be reaction from Tipp and I'd be hopeful of big games from Forde and Maher to lead the charge. If they play like they did against Clare then we are in for a full game of the hammering we took in the second half against Limerick last year. I still question whether this Tipp are fit enough though. Perhaps I notice it more but I see more Tipp players gasping for air in every game than the opposition for the last few years. I can see Maher being moved to full back but hard to see who will go to 6. I would possibly throw Cadell in there given Lynch is out. All in all I'd be hopeful we can play to the level we did against Waterford - coupled with Limericks injuries this might see the result being respectable. Not giving up hope yet of a miracle set of results to give us a chance of somehow getting through. Highly unlikely but not yet impossible!"
Well Tiobraid I'll sum it all up with a year: 1997

We had won two Munster titles in three years and had lost two all Ireland finals. Tipp had been away from the limelight since 1993. We went to Thurles and were comprehensively beaten, 1-20 to 0-13.

I'd never take Tipperary lightly. Poor v Clare but they picked out their forwards very well against Waterford. Any kind of win will do - after 72, 86, 93, 06 & 18, Limerick don't want to be relying on a result in Ennis to advance.

Confident but no foregone conclusion here.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 04/05/2022 09:41:37    2414780

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Only thing settled in Leinster is that Galway will take one of the 3 qualifying spots.

Last two and the final pairing still in the balance and only thing certain is that Wexford have to beat the Cats on their own pitch. Not easily done especially when Kilkenny will need a win to guarantee a final place regardless of what happens in Parnell.

Dublin in a good position. Getting something from the last two games would not only secure a third place but most likely a final. A final and a last six standing would be a good return for the year. Only beaten once so far this year in 13 games and expect at least one more big performance."
We have the beating of kilkenny on the head to head since 16 in all competitions.

Not confident at all, but we have a chance.

Imagine we do it and Cork, tipp and kilkenny are all gone at the group stage.

I need to lie down now.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3131 - 04/05/2022 10:28:22    2414796

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Replying To slayer:  "Well Tiobraid I'll sum it all up with a year: 1997

We had won two Munster titles in three years and had lost two all Ireland finals. Tipp had been away from the limelight since 1993. We went to Thurles and were comprehensively beaten, 1-20 to 0-13.

I'd never take Tipperary lightly. Poor v Clare but they picked out their forwards very well against Waterford. Any kind of win will do - after 72, 86, 93, 06 & 18, Limerick don't want to be relying on a result in Ennis to advance.

Confident but no foregone conclusion here."
Ya agree. Never take Tipp likely. Any sort of win would be great. Certainly don't want to be hitting Ennis looking for a result.

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 04/05/2022 10:31:43    2414798

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Replying To slayer:  "Well Tiobraid I'll sum it all up with a year: 1997

We had won two Munster titles in three years and had lost two all Ireland finals. Tipp had been away from the limelight since 1993. We went to Thurles and were comprehensively beaten, 1-20 to 0-13.

I'd never take Tipperary lightly. Poor v Clare but they picked out their forwards very well against Waterford. Any kind of win will do - after 72, 86, 93, 06 & 18, Limerick don't want to be relying on a result in Ennis to advance.

Confident but no foregone conclusion here."
Absolutely 100% right. We are going to be attempting to beat Tipperary for the fifth year in a row in the Munster Championship and to also knock them out altogether. You can expect a savage performance from Tipp.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4465 - 04/05/2022 10:32:02    2414799

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Replying To blackspot91:  "Yeah, don't know how he was considered better than Quaid last year to get the all-star.."
Media driven and people probably thinking 13 all stars were too many - I feel it was deserved and Quaid was easily the best keeper last year.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/05/2022 10:39:17    2414805

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "We have the beating of kilkenny on the head to head since 16 in all competitions.

Not confident at all, but we have a chance.

Imagine we do it and Cork, tipp and kilkenny are all gone at the group stage.

I need to lie down now."
""I need to lie down now""
Laughed when I read that..its incredible to think its possible .
If that happened it would have to be the first time ever the big 3 didn't make it out of the provinces?

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 04/05/2022 10:59:25    2414811

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Absolutely 100% right. We are going to be attempting to beat Tipperary for the fifth year in a row in the Munster Championship and to also knock them out altogether. You can expect a savage performance from Tipp."
Thats fairly demoralising from a Tipp perspective. Hopefully we can win tonight. At least there is positive signs at underage this season!
I think a lot of people are quick to state that Tipp are gone if they lose on Sunday. Theres still an unlikely set of results to suggest a team with one win can go through. Should Clare and Cork beat Waterford and Tipp beat Cork then that will happen - extremely unlikely I admit though. I expect a huge first half from Tipp against Limerick but unfortunately even the most optimistic Tipp supporter couldnt call a win in this one.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/05/2022 11:19:02    2414813

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Replying To skillet:  """I need to lie down now""
Laughed when I read that..its incredible to think its possible .
If that happened it would have to be the first time ever the big 3 didn't make it out of the provinces?"
Glad I gave you a laugh :)

Going from memory alone it would be since the restructuring alright.

Obviously the old format it happened a few times in the 90s, namely 94 and 96 with yourselves, offaly and us.

They've quite a few back door all Irelands between them since 97.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3131 - 04/05/2022 12:42:14    2414831

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Shameful disrespect shown to the Mayo hurlers. Not the first time that the golden boys in an "elite" county have been favoured by the county board. Used to happen all the time in Dublin not a million years ago.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 04/05/2022 21:50:38    2414956

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Thats fairly demoralising from a Tipp perspective. Hopefully we can win tonight. At least there is positive signs at underage this season!
I think a lot of people are quick to state that Tipp are gone if they lose on Sunday. Theres still an unlikely set of results to suggest a team with one win can go through. Should Clare and Cork beat Waterford and Tipp beat Cork then that will happen - extremely unlikely I admit though. I expect a huge first half from Tipp against Limerick but unfortunately even the most optimistic Tipp supporter couldnt call a win in this one."
Your scoring difference would need to be better than Corks and Waterfords though. Corks is shaping up to be poor but you havent played Limerick yet. And even if Waterford do lose their last 2 games you would have to think it wouldnt be by much. But as you say you are still in with a shout!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13774 - 05/05/2022 07:21:57    2414960

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Shameful disrespect shown to the Mayo hurlers. Not the first time that the golden boys in an "elite" county have been favoured by the county board. Used to happen all the time in Dublin not a million years ago."
Indeed Barney. I didn't like reading that. I've hoped poor underachieving, underdog Mayo would win Sam for many years now. Not this year, unless and until their county board equates proper and fair treatment their county hurlers. If that doesn't happen, I hope Mayo is fopped out of the qualifiers first day out against whatever team it meets.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 05/05/2022 09:42:53    2414973

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Replying To Viking66:  "Your scoring difference would need to be better than Corks and Waterfords though. Corks is shaping up to be poor but you havent played Limerick yet. And even if Waterford do lose their last 2 games you would have to think it wouldnt be by much. But as you say you are still in with a shout!"
Yep I've thought about that and as I say - its very much a long shot. Realistically we'd need to beat Limerick to have a chance and thats not happening. It would be good however to go into the last round with everyone having a chance.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/05/2022 10:51:46    2414999

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This is a kind of a particular issue, and is aimed particularly at OldTourMan and Canuck (of course others can contribute if you have relevant experience), as both of you have had many years experience of being at games with Cork fans, and you've described them as the best fans, full of craic and banter. But much of that was back when Cork was winning.

Do you find the Cork fans to be as lilting, chirpy and witty these days? Quite often these aspects of character come from having that good feel factor when their team comes out on top, and thinking they'll come out on top again the next day out. That old attitude, inspired by the (erstwhile) confidence of, "Sure, Cork can always beat Limerick or Waterford, boy."

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 05/05/2022 11:11:26    2415006

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I reckon Canning has summed up what most sensible people made of the infamous handshake.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 05/05/2022 11:16:49    2415010

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Shameful disrespect shown to the Mayo hurlers. Not the first time that the golden boys in an "elite" county have been favoured by the county board. Used to happen all the time in Dublin not a million years ago."
Not the first time and won't be the last……there was a good doc who once advocated a fire down our way….of certain ash products.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1076 - 05/05/2022 11:53:32    2415021

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Foreveryoung I see a huge change in a lot of cork supporters in last 5 years..all was great when they were competing and getting to finals..now that it looks as if they are miles away the support from some has changed..I know this due to having family in the county..they just can't bare that we in limerick are enjoying success..while it suited when limerick were in dire straights,they got enjoyment from it..some of them actually get very bitter if slagged about this stuff..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2372 - 05/05/2022 14:30:54    2415069

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Replying To MillerX:  "Not the first time and won't be the last……there was a good doc who once advocated a fire down our way….of certain ash products."
Iirc the current Meath senior football manager advocated a similar policy a few years ago....except instead of burning said ash products he wanted to break them.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1953 - 05/05/2022 20:06:26    2415144

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