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Can't believe Cork are more or less gone, this is their longest famine without an all Ireland 1903 to 1919 was the previous record, looks like its going to continue

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 01/05/2022 17:51:42    2414419

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Replying To preddan:  "Can't believe Cork are more or less gone, this is their longest famine without an all Ireland 1903 to 1919 was the previous record, looks like its going to continue"
Those defeats against Limerick have really knocked the stuffing out of them.

Be interesting to see who takes over from Kingston.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 01/05/2022 18:01:05    2414426

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Those defeats against Limerick have really knocked the stuffing out of them.

Be interesting to see who takes over from Kingston."
spot on barney the 2 defeats to limerick by a combined total of 27 points is after doing a lot of damage to cork hurling, the first 35 minutes today from cork was as bad as ive ever seen .........where do they go from here.....patrick horgan ,harnedy finished . management finished.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1130 - 01/05/2022 18:33:13    2414439

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Replying To Viking66:  "Good 1! I should've used " every dog on the street knows more about hurling than Mr Young"! I go to see 40 odd games of hurling every year and watch the same again on TV or live stream. Not as remote or insular as an expat in Japan! As reflected in our performances as tipsters. Leaving out Wexfords results, who I'd have to tip even against Limerick due to a belief that its bad form to back against your own, I've guessed the result of every Championship game of hurling right this year in both Munster and Leinster.
Tips for this weekend- feel free to visit your online bookies Mr Young-
Wexford
Galway
Dublin
Clare
Although, bravado aside , I wouldn't recommend anyone rush to the bookies with these four as an accum as Cork or Kilkenny or both could ruin it. Actually feck it I'll throw a tenner on it.
You picked -
Laois
Kilkenny
Dublin
Clare
You have done fairly well so far this year. Apart from also getting the 2 Wexford results wrong you also thought Cork would beat Limerick. Maybe you will even up the score between us this weekend."
My 4 team accum netted me near 70 euro Mr Young.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13771 - 01/05/2022 18:36:08    2414440

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I wonder would kingston step down before championship finishes?cork still have no full back??joyce might solve center back but needs time.they also need some players to stop hiding and become proper leaders,o Mahoney and fitzgibbon..I've also mentioned Horgan in previous posts,surely time for him to step aside and probably harnedy to..o Connell got a run today,hardly used all during league..why are Meade and cadogan on match day panel of not going to be used,they needed a bit of experience today..Clare are now being noticed after coming in under the radar..any team with o donnell,duggan and Kelly in a forward line deserved respect..also two very tight marking corner backs,will cause trouble for most teams..they were a tony Kelly puck away from knocking cork out last year..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2372 - 01/05/2022 19:02:23    2414451

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I wonder would kingston step down before championship finishes?cork still have no full back??joyce might solve center back but needs time.they also need some players to stop hiding and become proper leaders,o Mahoney and fitzgibbon..I've also mentioned Horgan in previous posts,surely time for him to step aside and probably harnedy to..o Connell got a run today,hardly used all during league..why are Meade and cadogan on match day panel of not going to be used,they needed a bit of experience today..Clare are now being noticed after coming in under the radar..any team with o donnell,duggan and Kelly in a forward line deserved respect..also two very tight marking corner backs,will cause trouble for most teams..they were a tony Kelly puck away from knocking cork out last year..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2372 - 01/05/2022 19:02:38    2414452

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Woohoooo

Clare are rolling. What a win"
Delighted for Clare, very enjoyable game. That score line flattered Cork though.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2083 - 01/05/2022 19:11:53    2414458

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Shocking display by Laois today against wexford only 3 points from play in 75 minutes hurling is shocking. There was no fight whatsoever and its now time for cheddar to go the players are only going through the motions. Six goals conceded and but for 3 outstanding saves from Rowland in the first half and some poor finishing from wexford we were lucky it wasn't a dozen.

Richardkimble (Laois) - Posts: 39 - 01/05/2022 19:37:15    2414464

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Makes it very interesting now with cork beaten again..they can only finish on four points and would lose out on head to head with both limerick and Clare..limerick win next day tipp are out..leinster is possibly going to come down to last day killkenny/Wexford to possibly qualify.,"
Limerick need only draw the next dsy and neither Cork or Tipp can catch them and Tipp would be out

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4465 - 01/05/2022 19:51:31    2414471

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Missed all of today's games, but saw the "handshake" between Cody and Shefflin. It was really cold from Cody and looks like he did not even congratulate Shefflin.
What did he expect Shefflin to do, hang around waiting years for the big job when he decides he's finished?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1784 - 01/05/2022 20:00:52    2414473

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Replying To katser:  "Fairly straightforward games this Weekend.....
Cork v Clare...................Clare
Galway v Kilkenny........Galway
Laois v Wexford...........Wexford
Westmeath v Dublin.....Dublin"
Galway and Clare should have won more comfortably

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2473 - 01/05/2022 20:14:01    2414476

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The landscape in Munster has changed so much in recent years. I coudnt have imagined at any time in the past that Tipp and Cork would be bottom of the pile in Munster.
Cork need to get back to the basics of hurling, mark your man and move the ball forward.
Well done Clare!

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 01/05/2022 20:36:29    2414483

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Clare continue to show what team spirit is all about. Lohan is getting all of our players to play at 110%. That was the first time we have beaten Cork and Tipp in the championship since 1997 I think and to do it in basically the same week is wonderful for Clare supporters.

While we don't have a huge panel, people are beginning to see that when our best 15 is out we are a match for anyone (expect maybe Limerick). Lads like Shane O Donnell, TK, Peter Duggan and John Conlon are marquee players. Coupled with lads like Ryan Taylor, Diarmiud Ryan Rory Hayes playing superbly I am hoping this is the start of an extended run and some great days out this year.

Our panel is light and injuries would be a concern for me as we already are missing David Reidy, Shane Meehan, Mark Rodgers and Aidan McCarthy and certainly the latter 2 would likely be starters at the moment.

The Munster championship is still finely poised I think. It is not beyond Cork to win in Waterford. I don't think playing at home particularly suits Waterford with the tighter pitch (may not suit Cork necessarily either). Assuming Cork could then beat Tipperary it makes the Clare / Waterford game crucial. Evidently though its curtains for Cork should Waterford win but I have a sneaky feeling Waterford wont get it all their own way.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 03/05/2022 10:31:20    2414490

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Replying To Richardkimble:  "Shocking display by Laois today against wexford only 3 points from play in 75 minutes hurling is shocking. There was no fight whatsoever and its now time for cheddar to go the players are only going through the motions. Six goals conceded and but for 3 outstanding saves from Rowland in the first half and some poor finishing from wexford we were lucky it wasn't a dozen."
Must have been really tough to watch for you.

We had a few days like that in the early 00s so it can turn around.

Great result for your minors

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3130 - 03/05/2022 10:37:25    2414493

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Replying To Viking66:  "My 4 team accum netted me near 70 euro Mr Young."
Well played Viking. Keep that 70 in your pocket now. You might need it for an AI final ticket later this summer, seeing that Wexford is firing on all cylinders now.

Massive win over Laois! Here's hoping your u-21s beat the Cats in the final. I hear that both semi-finals were great games, with a point being the winning margin in each.

On a different note, do you think Galway beating KK helps Wexford. I think that it'd have been better for Wexford had KK won. It's difficult to gauge, though.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 03/05/2022 11:23:35    2414508

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Replying To katser:  "Galway and Clare should have won more comfortably"
Galway won't go far they don't have the players unfortunately

PatKeyes73 (Limerick) - Posts: 21 - 03/05/2022 11:38:44    2414515

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Clare continue to show what team spirit is all about. Lohan is getting all of our players to play at 110%. That was the first time we have beaten Cork and Tipp in the championship since 1997 I think and to do it in basically the same week is wonderful for Clare supporters.

While we don't have a huge panel, people are beginning to see that when our best 15 is out we are a match for anyone (expect maybe Limerick). Lads like Shane O Donnell, TK, Peter Duggan and John Conlon are marquee players. Coupled with lads like Ryan Taylor, Diarmiud Ryan Rory Hayes playing superbly I am hoping this is the start of an extended run and some great days out this year.

Our panel is light and injuries would be a concern for me as we already are missing David Reidy, Shane Meehan, Mark Rodgers and Aidan McCarthy and certainly the latter 2 would likely be starters at the moment.

The Munster championship is still finely poised I think. It is not beyond Cork to win in Waterford. I don't think playing at home particularly suits Waterford with the tighter pitch (may not suit Cork necessarily either). Assuming Cork could then beat Tipperary it makes the Clare / Waterford game crucial. Evidently though its curtains for Cork should Waterford win but I have a sneaky feeling Waterford wont get it all their own way."
A good assessment and I was spectacularly wrong! I've been fairly critical of this Cork team for the last number of years but I think I massively underestimated Clare also. Lohan is doing a fine job with Clare. Who else would have seen Conlon as a centre back - never mind a top class one! Clare now are in a great position to reach a Munster final. Limerick will almost certainly beat Tipp next weekend which will leave their game against Clare as a chance to possibly mix and match and give players a run out. It's hard to see Cork beating anyone at the minute but I've no doubt that Waterford will be slightly nervous of Cork turning them over. Theres not one player in the Cork team that you could describe as having any real bit of toughness in them since Eoin Cadogan retired. Changes are needed - management first.

I thought the Galway-KK was quite enjoyable even if Galway were poor for two quarters of that game. I think they failed to score or have too many shots at the posts from approx 36-56 mins. At that point I failed to see anything but a KK win but they rallied again. I'll get ridiculed again for this - but I thought Daithi Burkes positional sense for the KK goals was extremely poor again. Its almost as if hes trying to do too much.

I thought the Cody-Shefflin handshake at the end was disgusting and I hope Cody can apologise to Shefflin privately at the very least. I've seen some people say it was Cody showing him respect or something - it was anything but that. Given what has happened over the last month it left a real sour taste. Given the Tipp-KK rivalry isnt what it was I'd gained a lot of respect for Cody over the last few years but even compared to anything Davy has done, that incident was easily the worst I seen from any manager, giving the timing of it.

Additionally, I've also been a good supporter of the Sunday game but can they please not have those two pundits on again. Both seem to not see anything the same as everyone else and are ridiculously biased.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 12:03:28    2414533

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Clare continue to show what team spirit is all about. Lohan is getting all of our players to play at 110%. That was the first time we have beaten Cork and Tipp in the championship since 1997 I think and to do it in basically the same week is wonderful for Clare supporters.

While we don't have a huge panel, people are beginning to see that when our best 15 is out we are a match for anyone (expect maybe Limerick). Lads like Shane O Donnell, TK, Peter Duggan and John Conlon are marquee players. Coupled with lads like Ryan Taylor, Diarmiud Ryan Rory Hayes playing superbly I am hoping this is the start of an extended run and some great days out this year.

Our panel is light and injuries would be a concern for me as we already are missing David Reidy, Shane Meehan, Mark Rodgers and Aidan McCarthy and certainly the latter 2 would likely be starters at the moment.

The Munster championship is still finely poised I think. It is not beyond Cork to win in Waterford. I don't think playing at home particularly suits Waterford with the tighter pitch (may not suit Cork necessarily either). Assuming Cork could then beat Tipperary it makes the Clare / Waterford game crucial. Evidently though its curtains for Cork should Waterford win but I have a sneaky feeling Waterford wont get it all their own way."
Great read LRH. However, I think that the tight pitch should suit the bigger, stronger, more physical directly running players. And we know which team has those, and which hasn't.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 03/05/2022 12:11:33    2414537

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Replying To tiobraid:  "A good assessment and I was spectacularly wrong! I've been fairly critical of this Cork team for the last number of years but I think I massively underestimated Clare also. Lohan is doing a fine job with Clare. Who else would have seen Conlon as a centre back - never mind a top class one! Clare now are in a great position to reach a Munster final. Limerick will almost certainly beat Tipp next weekend which will leave their game against Clare as a chance to possibly mix and match and give players a run out. It's hard to see Cork beating anyone at the minute but I've no doubt that Waterford will be slightly nervous of Cork turning them over. Theres not one player in the Cork team that you could describe as having any real bit of toughness in them since Eoin Cadogan retired. Changes are needed - management first.

I thought the Galway-KK was quite enjoyable even if Galway were poor for two quarters of that game. I think they failed to score or have too many shots at the posts from approx 36-56 mins. At that point I failed to see anything but a KK win but they rallied again. I'll get ridiculed again for this - but I thought Daithi Burkes positional sense for the KK goals was extremely poor again. Its almost as if hes trying to do too much.

I thought the Cody-Shefflin handshake at the end was disgusting and I hope Cody can apologise to Shefflin privately at the very least. I've seen some people say it was Cody showing him respect or something - it was anything but that. Given what has happened over the last month it left a real sour taste. Given the Tipp-KK rivalry isnt what it was I'd gained a lot of respect for Cody over the last few years but even compared to anything Davy has done, that incident was easily the worst I seen from any manager, giving the timing of it.

Additionally, I've also been a good supporter of the Sunday game but can they please not have those two pundits on again. Both seem to not see anything the same as everyone else and are ridiculously biased."
Didn't see the SG. Who did they have on it? Donal Og? And McGrath?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 03/05/2022 12:17:35    2414544

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Replying To ZUL10:  "The landscape in Munster has changed so much in recent years. I coudnt have imagined at any time in the past that Tipp and Cork would be bottom of the pile in Munster.
Cork need to get back to the basics of hurling, mark your man and move the ball forward.
Well done Clare!"
I think to be fair to my own county, prior to this year Limerick were the only team to beat Tipp in the Munster championship in 3 seasons (in 2019, 2020 and 2021). Clare were the last team outisde of Limerick to beat Tipp back in 2018.

Cork beat Clare, Dublin and KK on their way to the final last year - Limerick again were the only team to beat them.

There is absolutely no doubt that both teams are the bottom of the pile in Munster in 2022. However, given what Cahill has done with Waterford and how poor Tipp were in 2017 (and to come back two years later and win the All Ireland), I think its premature to suggest that Tipp and Cork are bottom of the pile for any longer than 2022 - that remains to be seen. Both have a lot of work to do but things change quickly in hurling. Its not too long ago that both Clare and Limerick had a very poor record in the Munster cship over a number of years. Thats the beauty of the Munster cship and its in as good a place as it ever was in that regard.
Limerick and Tipp have 4 final appearances, Cork and Waterford 3 appearances and Clare 2. Fantastic Cship.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 12:22:29    2414551

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