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Replying To foreveryoung: "My post should have said Declan Carr. Tommy is his brother. Declan, Dublin-born, captained Tipp in 1991 to AI victory. I think it was 1991. While Tommy played for years for Dublin. I don't think he ever won AI medal, though. Perhaps, he should have gone to Tipp, too. I agree that Dublin don't have the same tradition as it's so long ago now since they won McCarthy that their names are no longer in living memory, unlike in Wexford (great documentary on Rackard, btw). However, it did surprise me that Dublin has more Leinster titles in senior hurling than Wexford." A statistic that irritates me to no end :) My original point was that's I don't think it's a true reflection of hurling in each respective county pre 00s. For me, the great Dublin breakthrough is 05 leinster minor final. We had a decent team at that time and it was a very important day for both to make a breakthrough. Close game and they won by a puc of a ball after we conceded a dodgy goal. Their lads went on to win a leinster senior and an nhl title. Couple of ours lined out in the drawn game with Clare in 13 at senior but that was the peak. Captain John mccaffrey I think "the dubs are back" I remember thinking they were never there to begin with. Pretty sure the last mine before that featured Niall Quinn at full forward. Our team in that era probably had the messiah of Irish boxing Billy Walsh on it. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3130 - 29/04/2022 10:39:59 2414005 Link
Replying To baire: "You'll blind yourself with dates! The question was about Dublin's record in Leinster before Galway arrived .I. senior IC hurling. From 1962-2009, nada. As has been said the Dublin team pre 1962 consisted of country fellas who worked in Dublin. However, in recent years Dublin may well have contested or even won an AIl Ireland if some of its very talented players e.g Con O' Callaghan & C Kilkenny had opted for hurling instead of football." They were some of Dublins best hurlers underage. At the same time they probably wouldn't have enjoyed the same success as they have done at football. Maybe they preferred football also? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13771 - 29/04/2022 11:14:05 2414017 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "My post should have said Declan Carr. Tommy is his brother. Declan, Dublin-born, captained Tipp in 1991 to AI victory. I think it was 1991. While Tommy played for years for Dublin. I don't think he ever won AI medal, though. Perhaps, he should have gone to Tipp, too. I agree that Dublin don't have the same tradition as it's so long ago now since they won McCarthy that their names are no longer in living memory, unlike in Wexford (great documentary on Rackard, btw). However, it did surprise me that Dublin has more Leinster titles in senior hurling than Wexford." Not really. At that time in Ireland many lads moved to Dublin for work. And transport home for training and matches would've been alot slower so good hurlers who wanted to play opted for Dublin. Also we were better known as a football county pre WW2. Won 5 Football AI titles including a 4 in a row. And 10 Leinster Football titles. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13771 - 29/04/2022 11:21:27 2414021 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "My post should have said Declan Carr. Tommy is his brother. Declan, Dublin-born, captained Tipp in 1991 to AI victory. I think it was 1991. While Tommy played for years for Dublin. I don't think he ever won AI medal, though. Perhaps, he should have gone to Tipp, too. I agree that Dublin don't have the same tradition as it's so long ago now since they won McCarthy that their names are no longer in living memory, unlike in Wexford (great documentary on Rackard, btw). However, it did surprise me that Dublin has more Leinster titles in senior hurling than Wexford." Tommy won 1 AI and 5 Leinster football medals. And a couple of Leagues. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13771 - 29/04/2022 11:22:11 2414023 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Tommy won 1 AI and 5 Leinster football medals. And a couple of Leagues." Viking, you may be right. Tommy Carr might have won an AI medal. Wikipedia says that he has 1. Wikipedia is generally great, but not always accurate. Was he a sub in 1995? I thought he'd retired before that. Perhaps he was still involved. Here's the 1995 team: 1995: J. O'Leary, P. Moran, C. Walsh, K. Galvin, P. Curran, K. Barr, M. Deegan, P. Bealin, B. Stynes, J. Gavin, D. Farrell, P. Clarke, M. Galvin, J. Sherlock, C. Redmond. Subs: P. Gilroy, R. Boyle, V. Murphy Perhaps some Dublin poster can clarify. Otherwise, I'll have to bother Brian Mullins with an email. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2094 - 29/04/2022 14:06:07 2414062 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Viking, you may be right. Tommy Carr might have won an AI medal. Wikipedia says that he has 1. Wikipedia is generally great, but not always accurate. Was he a sub in 1995? I thought he'd retired before that. Perhaps he was still involved. Here's the 1995 team: 1995: J. O'Leary, P. Moran, C. Walsh, K. Galvin, P. Curran, K. Barr, M. Deegan, P. Bealin, B. Stynes, J. Gavin, D. Farrell, P. Clarke, M. Galvin, J. Sherlock, C. Redmond. Subs: P. Gilroy, R. Boyle, V. Murphy Perhaps some Dublin poster can clarify. Otherwise, I'll have to bother Brian Mullins with an email." You are right. He retired in 1994. I thought he was still playing in 95. I phoned a friend! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13771 - 30/04/2022 10:51:57 2414122 Link
Not a very inspiring Cork selection for today's match. Although good for them that Joyce is gone centre back, Downey in for Cahalane no improvement. Must be serious shortage of backs down there. Can't figure out why Connolly isn't getting a start. Thought he looked handy. Anyway, hopefully Clare can do the business. Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 01/05/2022 08:55:16 2414286 Link
I think it's a much better Cork selection. Yeah I don't know why Connolly isn't starting. O Connor will be expected to get a goal or two i suppose and there are goals there for Cork.I can see Downey doing fine on Duggan. Downey is a much better player than Cahalane. Id expect Harnedy to play well. He always does against Clare. Clare should be winning this but I'm not sure that they will. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 01/05/2022 09:46:00 2414295 Link
Replying To Viking66: "They were some of Dublins best hurlers underage. At the same time they probably wouldn't have enjoyed the same success as they have done at football. Maybe they preferred football also?" There was only one non Dub on the 1961 team - Paddy Croke from Tipp. Reason the county teams in 30s and 40s were dominated by non Dubs was because you had to declare for county you lived in. That meant there were a lot of inter county players in the city who were working as teachers, civil servants, guards, soldiers who were picked to play. Quite a few including a Tipp relative of mine in 30s had All Ireland medals with their own county. It was disastrous policy for the county. Only won two All Irelands - one football and one hurling in that time by the way. Back to today. Weather looking ominous for Mullingar! Will bring back memories of 2006 for some of us when Westies beat us in a bog at Portlaoise. Hopefully ground is in better nick today and different outcome. The Galway thing by the way was taking pee out of Katser. Not a general instance of Galwayphobia :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 01/05/2022 10:23:55 2414304 Link
just wondering is the irish independant anti cork or clare not one mention of the match today either in yesterdays sports section or todays sunday independent. munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1130 - 01/05/2022 10:25:21 2414306 Link
Replying To Shocs07: "Not a very inspiring Cork selection for today's match. Although good for them that Joyce is gone centre back, Downey in for Cahalane no improvement. Must be serious shortage of backs down there. Can't figure out why Connolly isn't getting a start. Thought he looked handy. Anyway, hopefully Clare can do the business." I've gone for Cork today but I thought the exact same thing when I seen the team even if I was hoping that Joyce would be centre back - hopefully he plays there now. The Clare team look like a much more physical team. I could have got this prediction spectacularly wrong. A Clare win essentially finishes any slim chance of getting out of the Munster championship unfortunately. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/05/2022 10:36:43 2414313 Link
Replying To munsterchamps: "just wondering is the irish independant anti cork or clare not one mention of the match today either in yesterdays sports section or todays sunday independent." Dare I say, all of this is another consequence of the curtailed championship? Ironically, the number of excellent games all jammed in together has meant even less coverage. GAA will then disappear totally from the airwaves and national press for another six months. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 01/05/2022 12:24:31 2414336 Link
Did Colm Lyons get that one wrong at the end ? Thought Deegan had clearly won the ball.Good match. Great battle in fairness. Cork are in trouble. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 01/05/2022 15:50:34 2414377 Link
Makes it very interesting now with cork beaten again..they can only finish on four points and would lose out on head to head with both limerick and Clare..limerick win next day tipp are out..leinster is possibly going to come down to last day killkenny/Wexford to possibly qualify., CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2372 - 01/05/2022 16:03:06 2414380 Link
Woohoooo Clare are rolling. What a win LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 01/05/2022 16:09:37 2414381 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Did Colm Lyons get that one wrong at the end ? Thought Deegan had clearly won the ball.Good match. Great battle in fairness. Cork are in trouble." Looks like it. Cant for the life of me understand why he didnt just blow it up on the puck out instead of having to make a really big call. Super entertaining game. Galway probably deserved it but you have to love Kilkenny's never say die attitude. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1465 - 01/05/2022 16:29:46 2414392 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Makes it very interesting now with cork beaten again..they can only finish on four points and would lose out on head to head with both limerick and Clare..limerick win next day tipp are out..leinster is possibly going to come down to last day killkenny/Wexford to possibly qualify.," Leinster still wide open but with Galway favourites to take the top spot. Wexford probably will be only team at present who will need a win on the last day. Unless Dublin beat the stripey men, .... BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3096 - 01/05/2022 16:52:04 2414399 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Did Colm Lyons get that one wrong at the end ? Thought Deegan had clearly won the ball.Good match. Great battle in fairness. Cork are in trouble." I thought he did get it wrong but there was no replay from a different angle to judge it. It looked like Deegan got a touch but his momentum knocked Monaghan. I suppose Galway got a hard call down in Wexford Park and this one would even it out. Galway winning nothing with the goalie, a bit flakey and a very soft goal to concede and went down a bit easy in the first half looking for a free.I thought they had a better keeper last year who played against Waterford. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 01/05/2022 16:52:39 2414400 Link
Does this mean the sizeable Cork bangwagon are going to set off into the sunset again?!??? ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1632 - 01/05/2022 17:26:27 2414408 Link
Replying To ahsure.: "Does this mean the sizeable Cork bangwagon are going to set off into the sunset again?!???" With the seniors all but gone, the u20s out, the minors might get a bit of a following. Rebel tide on hold till at least next year... Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 01/05/2022 17:50:42 2414418 Link