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I predicted Clare before a ball was hit. They will be in the Munster final also. We will do well to be third and then the dreaded play offs.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 03/05/2022 12:28:15
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Replying To PatKeyes73: "Galway won't go far they don't have the players unfortunately" I wasn't expecting us to beat Kilkenny, so I was very pleased with the overall performance on Sunday. I thought we should have won with a bit more to spare, given the chances the wasted, primarily in the 2nd half.
We have good first 15 or so, but we do lack depth. There's a lot of inexperience on the bench. It'll take some time and a bit of pain, I think, to get back to where we were a few years ago.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 03/05/2022 12:38:22
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Replying To tiobraid: "A good assessment and I was spectacularly wrong! I've been fairly critical of this Cork team for the last number of years but I think I massively underestimated Clare also. Lohan is doing a fine job with Clare. Who else would have seen Conlon as a centre back - never mind a top class one! Clare now are in a great position to reach a Munster final. Limerick will almost certainly beat Tipp next weekend which will leave their game against Clare as a chance to possibly mix and match and give players a run out. It's hard to see Cork beating anyone at the minute but I've no doubt that Waterford will be slightly nervous of Cork turning them over. Theres not one player in the Cork team that you could describe as having any real bit of toughness in them since Eoin Cadogan retired. Changes are needed - management first.
I thought the Galway-KK was quite enjoyable even if Galway were poor for two quarters of that game. I think they failed to score or have too many shots at the posts from approx 36-56 mins. At that point I failed to see anything but a KK win but they rallied again. I'll get ridiculed again for this - but I thought Daithi Burkes positional sense for the KK goals was extremely poor again. Its almost as if hes trying to do too much.
I thought the Cody-Shefflin handshake at the end was disgusting and I hope Cody can apologise to Shefflin privately at the very least. I've seen some people say it was Cody showing him respect or something - it was anything but that. Given what has happened over the last month it left a real sour taste. Given the Tipp-KK rivalry isnt what it was I'd gained a lot of respect for Cody over the last few years but even compared to anything Davy has done, that incident was easily the worst I seen from any manager, giving the timing of it.
Additionally, I've also been a good supporter of the Sunday game but can they please not have those two pundits on again. Both seem to not see anything the same as everyone else and are ridiculously biased." Whatever about the first goal, I thought there was very little Daithí could do about the 2nd. I haven't watched it back, but I'm just going from memory at the game. Once Grealish dived in and Cody got inside him Kilkenny had a 2 on 1. As a full-back there you either go to meet the man and he slips the pass to the free man with an open shot, or else you hold and try to force him into two minds. He did the latter and actually managed to delay the pass, but it wasn't enough to stop the chance.
As you said, we went around 20 minutes without scoring in the 2nd half, but we had a decent number of chances in that time, including 2 brilliant goal chances which we made a bags of. There was a stiff breeze, which made long range shooting into that goal difficult.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 03/05/2022 12:46:44
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Replying To tiobraid: "I think to be fair to my own county, prior to this year Limerick were the only team to beat Tipp in the Munster championship in 3 seasons (in 2019, 2020 and 2021). Clare were the last team outisde of Limerick to beat Tipp back in 2018.
Cork beat Clare, Dublin and KK on their way to the final last year - Limerick again were the only team to beat them.
There is absolutely no doubt that both teams are the bottom of the pile in Munster in 2022. However, given what Cahill has done with Waterford and how poor Tipp were in 2017 (and to come back two years later and win the All Ireland), I think its premature to suggest that Tipp and Cork are bottom of the pile for any longer than 2022 - that remains to be seen. Both have a lot of work to do but things change quickly in hurling. Its not too long ago that both Clare and Limerick had a very poor record in the Munster cship over a number of years. Thats the beauty of the Munster cship and its in as good a place as it ever was in that regard.
Limerick and Tipp have 4 final appearances, Cork and Waterford 3 appearances and Clare 2. Fantastic Cship." *in the past 8 seasons.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 12:56:51
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Well played Viking. Keep that 70 in your pocket now. You might need it for an AI final ticket later this summer, seeing that Wexford is firing on all cylinders now.
Massive win over Laois! Here's hoping your u-21s beat the Cats in the final. I hear that both semi-finals were great games, with a point being the winning margin in each.
On a different note, do you think Galway beating KK helps Wexford. I think that it'd have been better for Wexford had KK won. It's difficult to gauge, though." I'm not sure. Some lads on this felt that if KK had won and then beat Dublin they would rest lads for the last game but that's not my view I don't think Cody has ever had that attitude. A draw would have suited best I guess. Dublin losing to both would mean we would finish above them if we win our last 2. Alternatively if Dublin win both and we also beat KK then KK would miss out and it would come down to scoring difference to see which of us and Galway meet Dublin in the final. If we drew with KK and if they lose to Dublin it would go down to scoring difference between us and Kilkenny to see who finishes 3rd. All that's assuming we beat Westmeath which isn't a given. They have a good Wexford man I charge who I'm sure will have them well prepared.
So in answer to your question it didn't matter much to me who won in Salthill.
Hopefully the u20s can do it. A few lads who were out injured played a part against Dublin so that was good to see. Kilkenny are obviously going to be tough opponents though this group did beat them in the Leinster minor final in 2019.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13773 - 03/05/2022 13:23:59
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Clare continue to show what team spirit is all about. Lohan is getting all of our players to play at 110%. That was the first time we have beaten Cork and Tipp in the championship since 1997 I think and to do it in basically the same week is wonderful for Clare supporters.
While we don't have a huge panel, people are beginning to see that when our best 15 is out we are a match for anyone (expect maybe Limerick). Lads like Shane O Donnell, TK, Peter Duggan and John Conlon are marquee players. Coupled with lads like Ryan Taylor, Diarmiud Ryan Rory Hayes playing superbly I am hoping this is the start of an extended run and some great days out this year.
Our panel is light and injuries would be a concern for me as we already are missing David Reidy, Shane Meehan, Mark Rodgers and Aidan McCarthy and certainly the latter 2 would likely be starters at the moment.
The Munster championship is still finely poised I think. It is not beyond Cork to win in Waterford. I don't think playing at home particularly suits Waterford with the tighter pitch (may not suit Cork necessarily either). Assuming Cork could then beat Tipperary it makes the Clare / Waterford game crucial. Evidently though its curtains for Cork should Waterford win but I have a sneaky feeling Waterford wont get it all their own way." Yep I think Clare deserve a lot of plaudits. They are playing for each other and for management. Getting Duggan and O'Donnell is huge. They would be massive additions to any team. The backs also looked very solid and they were very physical. That first team is a handful for anyone. If any team doesn't play to the highest level this year against clare they will be beaten. I include limerick in that. After this weekend 's results I predict limerick and clare to make the munster final. Waterford wouldn't be too upset if that happened.
Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 367 - 03/05/2022 13:47:24
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A look ahead to Limerick v Tipp:
https://limerickhurling.blogspot.com/2022/05/limerick-v-tipperary-preview.html
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 03/05/2022 13:49:05
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Replying To WanPintWin: "Whatever about the first goal, I thought there was very little Daithí could do about the 2nd. I haven't watched it back, but I'm just going from memory at the game. Once Grealish dived in and Cody got inside him Kilkenny had a 2 on 1. As a full-back there you either go to meet the man and he slips the pass to the free man with an open shot, or else you hold and try to force him into two minds. He did the latter and actually managed to delay the pass, but it wasn't enough to stop the chance.
As you said, we went around 20 minutes without scoring in the 2nd half, but we had a decent number of chances in that time, including 2 brilliant goal chances which we made a bags of. There was a stiff breeze, which made long range shooting into that goal difficult." The biggest issue was the huge amount of space in front of the full back line
rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 03/05/2022 13:53:11
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Replying To WanPintWin: "Whatever about the first goal, I thought there was very little Daithí could do about the 2nd. I haven't watched it back, but I'm just going from memory at the game. Once Grealish dived in and Cody got inside him Kilkenny had a 2 on 1. As a full-back there you either go to meet the man and he slips the pass to the free man with an open shot, or else you hold and try to force him into two minds. He did the latter and actually managed to delay the pass, but it wasn't enough to stop the chance.
As you said, we went around 20 minutes without scoring in the 2nd half, but we had a decent number of chances in that time, including 2 brilliant goal chances which we made a bags of. There was a stiff breeze, which made long range shooting into that goal difficult." Ya fair point on the wind and salthill can be like that as we well know. I think at this stage of the championship any team has to be happy with a win especially against a rival like Kk and Galway like most teams are very much a confidence side and there were plenty of positives. Concannon and Joseph Cooney are back to their best it seems while Monaghan has been a revelation - he always seemed to be a guy who could take a score but his work rate has gone through the roof - he has surprised me. Padraic mannion had a decent game too and I don't think he has been at the top of his game the last couple of years. Morrissey looks like he could turn into a top class full back. We can agree to differ on Burke but I certainly felt he could have done a lot better on the second goal. He lost that ball far too easily and I do think he should have held back to mind the house in such an important stage of the game. I realise I'm judging him to higher standards than most but I do feel he's well of his best recently. However I've no doubt he will get better as this year goes on. I think Galways main worry now is that you don't have a top class goal keeper but there's a couple of other teams who could say the same.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 14:00:06
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Replying To slayer: "A look ahead to Limerick v Tipp:
https://limerickhurling.blogspot.com/2022/05/limerick-v-tipperary-preview.html" Whats your honest opinion on the game slayer? I think regardless of the Limerick personnel avaiable that anyone would be foolish not to predict a comfortable Limerick win. I think there simply has to be reaction from Tipp and I'd be hopeful of big games from Forde and Maher to lead the charge. If they play like they did against Clare then we are in for a full game of the hammering we took in the second half against Limerick last year. I still question whether this Tipp are fit enough though. Perhaps I notice it more but I see more Tipp players gasping for air in every game than the opposition for the last few years. I can see Maher being moved to full back but hard to see who will go to 6. I would possibly throw Cadell in there given Lynch is out. All in all I'd be hopeful we can play to the level we did against Waterford - coupled with Limericks injuries this might see the result being respectable. Not giving up hope yet of a miracle set of results to give us a chance of somehow getting through. Highly unlikely but not yet impossible!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 14:11:10
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Replying To tiobraid: "Ya fair point on the wind and salthill can be like that as we well know. I think at this stage of the championship any team has to be happy with a win especially against a rival like Kk and Galway like most teams are very much a confidence side and there were plenty of positives. Concannon and Joseph Cooney are back to their best it seems while Monaghan has been a revelation - he always seemed to be a guy who could take a score but his work rate has gone through the roof - he has surprised me. Padraic mannion had a decent game too and I don't think he has been at the top of his game the last couple of years. Morrissey looks like he could turn into a top class full back. We can agree to differ on Burke but I certainly felt he could have done a lot better on the second goal. He lost that ball far too easily and I do think he should have held back to mind the house in such an important stage of the game. I realise I'm judging him to higher standards than most but I do feel he's well of his best recently. However I've no doubt he will get better as this year goes on. I think Galways main worry now is that you don't have a top class goal keeper but there's a couple of other teams who could say the same." *corner back (Morrissey)
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 14:12:16
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Replying To tiobraid: "I think to be fair to my own county, prior to this year Limerick were the only team to beat Tipp in the Munster championship in 3 seasons (in 2019, 2020 and 2021). Clare were the last team outisde of Limerick to beat Tipp back in 2018.
Cork beat Clare, Dublin and KK on their way to the final last year - Limerick again were the only team to beat them.
There is absolutely no doubt that both teams are the bottom of the pile in Munster in 2022. However, given what Cahill has done with Waterford and how poor Tipp were in 2017 (and to come back two years later and win the All Ireland), I think its premature to suggest that Tipp and Cork are bottom of the pile for any longer than 2022 - that remains to be seen. Both have a lot of work to do but things change quickly in hurling. Its not too long ago that both Clare and Limerick had a very poor record in the Munster cship over a number of years. Thats the beauty of the Munster cship and its in as good a place as it ever was in that regard.
Limerick and Tipp have 4 final appearances, Cork and Waterford 3 appearances and Clare 2. Fantastic Cship." Limerick beat them in '18 also, in Limerick of a wet day
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4465 - 03/05/2022 14:54:59
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Replying To tiobraid: "Ya fair point on the wind and salthill can be like that as we well know. I think at this stage of the championship any team has to be happy with a win especially against a rival like Kk and Galway like most teams are very much a confidence side and there were plenty of positives. Concannon and Joseph Cooney are back to their best it seems while Monaghan has been a revelation - he always seemed to be a guy who could take a score but his work rate has gone through the roof - he has surprised me. Padraic mannion had a decent game too and I don't think he has been at the top of his game the last couple of years. Morrissey looks like he could turn into a top class full back. We can agree to differ on Burke but I certainly felt he could have done a lot better on the second goal. He lost that ball far too easily and I do think he should have held back to mind the house in such an important stage of the game. I realise I'm judging him to higher standards than most but I do feel he's well of his best recently. However I've no doubt he will get better as this year goes on. I think Galways main worry now is that you don't have a top class goal keeper but there's a couple of other teams who could say the same." I agree with you about Galways goalkeeping but your man from Kilkenny was brilliant. As usual.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2257 - 03/05/2022 15:13:45
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Replying To tiobraid: "I think to be fair to my own county, prior to this year Limerick were the only team to beat Tipp in the Munster championship in 3 seasons (in 2019, 2020 and 2021). Clare were the last team outisde of Limerick to beat Tipp back in 2018.
Cork beat Clare, Dublin and KK on their way to the final last year - Limerick again were the only team to beat them.
There is absolutely no doubt that both teams are the bottom of the pile in Munster in 2022. However, given what Cahill has done with Waterford and how poor Tipp were in 2017 (and to come back two years later and win the All Ireland), I think its premature to suggest that Tipp and Cork are bottom of the pile for any longer than 2022 - that remains to be seen. Both have a lot of work to do but things change quickly in hurling. Its not too long ago that both Clare and Limerick had a very poor record in the Munster cship over a number of years. Thats the beauty of the Munster cship and its in as good a place as it ever was in that regard.
Limerick and Tipp have 4 final appearances, Cork and Waterford 3 appearances and Clare 2. Fantastic Cship." As I recall Tipp didn't beat any Munster county in 2018? Played 4 lost 2 drew 2. Then in 2019 you were unbeaten in the group stages? The Munster Final was the only game you lost that year. It's the 3 years since that the wheels have come off. You have only won 1 Munster Championship game since you were last AI Champions.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13773 - 03/05/2022 15:42:23
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Replying To tiobraid: "Whats your honest opinion on the game slayer? I think regardless of the Limerick personnel avaiable that anyone would be foolish not to predict a comfortable Limerick win. I think there simply has to be reaction from Tipp and I'd be hopeful of big games from Forde and Maher to lead the charge. If they play like they did against Clare then we are in for a full game of the hammering we took in the second half against Limerick last year. I still question whether this Tipp are fit enough though. Perhaps I notice it more but I see more Tipp players gasping for air in every game than the opposition for the last few years. I can see Maher being moved to full back but hard to see who will go to 6. I would possibly throw Cadell in there given Lynch is out. All in all I'd be hopeful we can play to the level we did against Waterford - coupled with Limericks injuries this might see the result being respectable. Not giving up hope yet of a miracle set of results to give us a chance of somehow getting through. Highly unlikely but not yet impossible!" Funny you should say that Tiobraid. But the unfittest Wexford team was the one Bonnar managed also.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13773 - 03/05/2022 15:44:50
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Galway's victory over Kilkenny has guaranteed us to finish minimum 3rd, it doesn't matter what happens in the remaining games We will be at worst in the All Ireland Quarter Finals. But I have tipped us from the outstart to be Leinster Champions and a very dangerous opponent in the All Ireland Semi Finals.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2473 - 03/05/2022 16:05:32
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Replying To Trump2020: "I agree with you about Galways goalkeeping but your man from Kilkenny was brilliant. As usual." I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I thought Murphy had a poor enough outing in goal for Kilkenny. He hit some very poor passes to his backs which put them under a lot of pressure and led to Galway scores. He almost cost them another goal with a hospital pass. His puckouts weren't great either.
He made a great save from Monaghan's shot, but it was hit from a bit out and he had time to react. Monaghan should have laid that off to Whelan.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 03/05/2022 16:32:40
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Replying To Viking66: "Funny you should say that Tiobraid. But the unfittest Wexford team was the one Bonnar managed also." I'm not singling out Bonnar as I thought we actually looked unfitter in 2020-21. The trainer hasnt changed. Perhaps i'm imagining it but I do think it was an issue. I think Galway had that issue for years before they won in 2017. They regularly faded out of games after 55-60 mins. One or two Tipp players in particular looked gassed all the time.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 16:34:40
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Replying To WanPintWin: "I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I thought Murphy had a poor enough outing in goal for Kilkenny. He hit some very poor passes to his backs which put them under a lot of pressure and led to Galway scores. He almost cost them another goal with a hospital pass. His puckouts weren't great either.
He made a great save from Monaghan's shot, but it was hit from a bit out and he had time to react. Monaghan should have laid that off to Whelan." I think Murphys form has noticably dipped the last couple of seasons. Padraic Mannions point hit the top of the cross bar. He almost cost KK last year vs Wexford and P Mannions point came off the top of the cross bar on Sunday. Hes still one of the best but not the best anymore in my opinion.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/05/2022 16:37:29
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Replying To tiobraid: "I think Murphys form has noticably dipped the last couple of seasons. Padraic Mannions point hit the top of the cross bar. He almost cost KK last year vs Wexford and P Mannions point came off the top of the cross bar on Sunday. Hes still one of the best but not the best anymore in my opinion." He let in a poor one against Laois too.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2083 - 03/05/2022 16:57:04
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