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Replying To P.Mckenna:  "Nothing like a thread like this on HS to show how truly divided we are as an island. Politically & culturally."
Idiots exist everywhere

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 01/03/2022 13:56:06    2403250

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Google the findings of that incident instead of spouting your bile on here"
A poster from Ulster talking about people spouting bile the irony of it

While this didn't happen there have been cases in the past as much as some on here might try and say otherwise...

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 01/03/2022 14:01:40    2403252

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Replying To oneoff:  "A poster from Ulster talking about people spouting bile the irony of it

While this didn't happen there have been cases in the past as much as some on here might try and say otherwise..."
Can you name them please.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 01/03/2022 14:39:21    2403259

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You are only responsible for your own behaviour and how others do or did behave in the past, they own. If this is true and there is nothing to suggest its's not I am ashamed for my county , my father and fore fathers. I suspect the people who are okay with this are probably holocaust deniers and down the road will have a different spin on what Putin is doing in Ukraine now. This is what the world is breeding today. Nothing between their ears only the **** they read on the internet.
At the least these Waterford players need to be named and shamed. See how they wear that. It makes my stomach sick to have to talk like this about my county folk. Kevin Ryan and others have spent a life time going from Waterford to promote the sport in the North and these idiots are okay with sullying their names.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 01/03/2022 14:42:51    2403262

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Replying To oneoff:  "A poster from Ulster talking about people spouting bile the irony of it

While this didn't happen there have been cases in the past as much as some on here might try and say otherwise..."
Irony lol

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 01/03/2022 14:59:25    2403268

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Replying To oneoff:  "A poster from Ulster talking about people spouting bile the irony of it

While this didn't happen there have been cases in the past as much as some on here might try and say otherwise..."
Can you name them please.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 01/03/2022 15:34:51    2403276

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Replying To Galway9801:  "In other words,, "nothing to see here" ,, move along.
I wonder how much faith you'll have in the investigative process if its to determine that nothing untoward was said to the antrim hurlers."
Penny has finally dropped for you, if something didn't happen of course there is nothing to see here. Well done and go to the top of the class.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 01/03/2022 16:14:42    2403283

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Replying To P.Mckenna:  "Nothing like a thread like this on HS to show how truly divided we are as an island. Politically & culturally."
We were divided & conquered. Rise above. Ní neart go cur le chéile.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 01/03/2022 16:15:29    2403284

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I don't like slagging/sledging whatever people choose to call it. It's gamesmanship, deflection, diversionary etc. However it goes on but when a line is crossed it should be called out. Some on here are saying "Nordies getting all high and mighty" is a cheek but they are totally missing the central point. It's not so much the verbals, they go on. It's the derogatory "British/Prods/Unionists" stuff that gets thrown out. There are many people in their graves in the North murdered BECAUSE they were Gaels and members of the GAA. Every time a player or team go down the road of sectarianism/cultural insults they are effectively sticking 2 fingers up to those who lie in their graves. That's why they should choose their words carefully. Furthermore the provincial Councils and Croke Park should confront this head on and deal with it.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 01/03/2022 16:21:38    2403287

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Replying To Wally:  "Can you name them please."
You only need to go on social media to see it happening.

I know you're never going to acknowledge that it happens and If that makes you feel better than so be it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 01/03/2022 17:01:24    2403299

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I don't like slagging/sledging whatever people choose to call it. It's gamesmanship, deflection, diversionary etc. However it goes on but when a line is crossed it should be called out. Some on here are saying "Nordies getting all high and mighty" is a cheek but they are totally missing the central point. It's not so much the verbals, they go on. It's the derogatory "British/Prods/Unionists" stuff that gets thrown out. There are many people in their graves in the North murdered BECAUSE they were Gaels and members of the GAA. Every time a player or team go down the road of sectarianism/cultural insults they are effectively sticking 2 fingers up to those who lie in their graves. That's why they should choose their words carefully. Furthermore the provincial Councils and Croke Park should confront this head on and deal with it."
Exactly. This is the society we now live in. Ride the train that was provided by the blood and sweat of others. Spoon fed upstarts that should take a look at the people of Ukraine willing to fight tanks with motile cocktails to keep their country.
These guys shame my county. My fathers and forefathers. People like Kevin Ryan and others who gave so much time to hurling in Antrim and others. They should be named and shamed.
I also get a sense of many knowing nothing about the history of the six counties and they care less as long as the get off on what floats their boat. Idiots to say the least.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 01/03/2022 19:10:28    2403315

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I don't like slagging/sledging whatever people choose to call it. It's gamesmanship, deflection, diversionary etc. However it goes on but when a line is crossed it should be called out. Some on here are saying "Nordies getting all high and mighty" is a cheek but they are totally missing the central point. It's not so much the verbals, they go on. It's the derogatory "British/Prods/Unionists" stuff that gets thrown out. There are many people in their graves in the North murdered BECAUSE they were Gaels and members of the GAA. Every time a player or team go down the road of sectarianism/cultural insults they are effectively sticking 2 fingers up to those who lie in their graves. That's why they should choose their words carefully. Furthermore the provincial Councils and Croke Park should confront this head on and deal with it."
A line is always crossed with sledging. It's never an exchange about the weather. It's usually about your background or ethnicity or race "Free State B&@d, Nordie B&@d, British b&@d, Bl@k…". There is no hierarchy in terms of severity. All of these remarks are equally repulsive and no province or team is not guilty of having engaged in it in one form or other over the years. Jason Sherlock has been speaking out about the racial abuse that he and others have been subjected to for 30 years now and little or nothing has been done about it. Team management, team officials are as guilty as the GAA hierarchy when it comes to this. If management and officials can't observe and stamp out this behaviour locally, when all spectators are aware of it, then the GAA hierarchy aren't going to do it.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 01/03/2022 19:26:09    2403318

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When someone from the 26 counties is trying to get under the skin of a player from north of the border by calling him a "Prod" the most appropriate reaction would be to laugh at them and not get offended. I mean, with the state of religion in the South, the chances are that the player doing the sledging hasn't seen the inside of a Catholic church or any other church since they did their Holy Communion and doesnt know the first thing about what being a Catholic entails! If the northern player happens to be a practising Catholic they could have great fun with the Southerner by questioning them on their knowledge of basic Catholic theology. It would shut them up fairly fast when they would realise it was getting them nowhere!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 01/03/2022 21:38:57    2403340

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Replying To oneoff:  "You only need to go on social media to see it happening.

I know you're never going to acknowledge that it happens and If that makes you feel better than so be it."
So you can't name them then?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 02/03/2022 08:56:26    2403357

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There is definitely a distinct ignorance from many, many people in the Irish Republic about the realities of Irish history. I've met people who think the only people living in the north are unionists and loyalists. In other words, they are unaware that half the population up there are Irish.

This has been achieved, in my view, largely to a unionist sympathising establishment in the Irish Republic, not overtly sympathetic, but covertly.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 02/03/2022 09:20:36    2403365

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Replying To Wally:  "So you can't name them then?"
Like I said you just refuse to admit it happens. I could list out examples and you'd still try and find a way to deny it. But like I said if that makes you happy then by all means you think that way.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 02/03/2022 09:32:05    2403369

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "There is definitely a distinct ignorance from many, many people in the Irish Republic about the realities of Irish history. I've met people who think the only people living in the north are unionists and loyalists. In other words, they are unaware that half the population up there are Irish.

This has been achieved, in my view, largely to a unionist sympathising establishment in the Irish Republic, not overtly sympathetic, but covertly."
I can't believe the moderaters are allowing this conversation.

I assure you, that attitude doesn't represent wexford in my experience.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2682 - 02/03/2022 09:45:50    2403376

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "There is definitely a distinct ignorance from many, many people in the Irish Republic about the realities of Irish history. I've met people who think the only people living in the north are unionists and loyalists. In other words, they are unaware that half the population up there are Irish.

This has been achieved, in my view, largely to a unionist sympathising establishment in the Irish Republic, not overtly sympathetic, but covertly."
Unless some were born outside of Ireland they are all Irish.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 02/03/2022 10:52:27    2403403

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Unless some were born outside of Ireland they are all Irish."
Very true Ireland has 32 counties on the isle of Ireland,if your born in Ireland, your Irish,it's very simple,we all play in all Ireland championship.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 02/03/2022 11:24:08    2403411

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "There is definitely a distinct ignorance from many, many people in the Irish Republic about the realities of Irish history. I've met people who think the only people living in the north are unionists and loyalists. In other words, they are unaware that half the population up there are Irish.

This has been achieved, in my view, largely to a unionist sympathising establishment in the Irish Republic, not overtly sympathetic, but covertly."
I've never met anybody in the South who thinks that the six counties is only populated by Unionists and Loyalists and your view on the Irish Republic and supposed sympathies with the Unionist community is about as backward as they come. I would have thought that the commonly held view is that everyone in the six counties is Irish.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/03/2022 11:24:11    2403412

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