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Northern Ireland residents live in the UK not Britain.
Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 133 - 28/02/2022 18:53:51 2403102 Link 0 |
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Can you link to any reports of that happening in intercounty games recently?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 28/02/2022 18:56:30 2403105 Link 0 |
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There's nothing wrong with whataboutery. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Don't come on here playing the victim if the door swings both ways. I remember many tyrone posters here were very muted (and in some cases totally silent) in their condemnation of that horrible little guttersnipe who mocked the donegal lad over his fathers passing. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1717 - 28/02/2022 19:11:56 2403109 Link 2 |
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I'm just reading your user name. Given your posts on this thread you are well named.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 28/02/2022 19:22:31 2403111 Link 1 |
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I think the Northerners can give it but they don't like it given back. They've a victim culture. Always blaming. Like how offensive is it to be called a Brit or whatever.. ? Religion would be off limits for me. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/02/2022 19:56:29 2403115 Link 3 |
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There's definitely some pearl-clutching going on here. We seem to live in an age where being offended is the rote response. The fact that there are people on this thread comparing slagging at a sports event with people's deaths and drawing moral equivalence between both is, to put it mildly, a bit silly. Take a deep breath lads, and try to remember that it's no different from the Dublin lads having a go at us Westies, us Westies feeling desperately sorry for anyone born the wrong side of the Shannon, Munster lads' innate sense of inadequacy when they look northeast, and Nordies love for calling everyone to the south and west of them "Mexicans". Lord knows there are far more serious things in the world to worry about and get your undies in a bunch over. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 28/02/2022 20:00:03 2403116 Link 2 |
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Ah lads, I've had worse things said to me over the years. You would have to kit the whole team out with microphones to narrow it down realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 28/02/2022 20:16:39 2403118 Link 1 |
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This really gets me mad. These little ****** who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Mostly well educated college people and never had to fight for anything in their lives. I don't care if they are our best player or players. They do not represent me or 99.9% of Waterford people. I will do every thing I can to find out the truth and consider cancelling any memberships. Others I know have said the same. It would be interesting to hear what Clinton Hennessy has to say as he was right on the line. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 28/02/2022 20:59:00 2403125 Link 1 |
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Hate sectarianism, but this british bs and the like is only banter. When Belfast club teams play country teams the banter was about sheep and chip eating. Our hurlers shouldn't be put off by ****01es with loose mouths and little between the ears. Get on with taking them apart. By the way the Down manager who firstly complained about this nonsense I beleive is from the 26 counties as is the management of Antrim. Maybe they dont understand that we are used to it. Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 28/02/2022 21:02:18 2403128 Link 0 |
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****bags will say anything to upset he opposition and try and gain an advantage from it if they can, I'd imagine most of them would have very little knowledge of history and probably the only thing they could ever manage to read were comic books. That goes for everyone north south east or west, a thick ignorant ****bag can be born and raised in any county, I'm sure there's plenty of the in my own county too. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 28/02/2022 21:13:49 2403130 Link 1 |
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Hard to debate with a man who struggles with basic geography. When I went to university in maynooth years ago now, a girl from Kildare asked me once if I needed to change my currency from Sterling to euro at the weekend… The ignorance of quite a few, the minority though I believe, anywhere south of Cavan is kind of startling. The group of people who really take the biscuit though are those sad people who take a weird joy in the fact of partition and who take a bizarre enjoyment in rubbing it in the face of people from the 6 counties. It's take a special kind of ignorance to minimise the suffering of northern nationalists over the past 50 years while simultaneously making them feel less than Irish because they happened to be born the wrong side of the border. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 28/02/2022 21:54:18 2403133 Link 1 |
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I absolutely agree. This brings a level of guilt and shame that I cannot express. This to me is the lowest of the low Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2682 - 28/02/2022 22:02:21 2403134 Link 0 |
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I've been reading the HS forum for years but never posted until now. This post is gaslighting and actually embarrassing to see from a fellow Rossie, showing complete ignorance of our country's history. I'm hoping a mitigating factor is that you were born in 93 and so have no living memory of the Troubles and what our fellow countrymen in the north-east of the island had to endure. Count yourself lucky you grew up in a time and location in the country well insulated from conflict.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 793 - 01/03/2022 07:45:02 2403136 Link 2 |
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Just read the replies from Westmeath & Roscommon fans and folk wonder why Hoganstand is like a ghost town these days. sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 01/03/2022 08:14:08 2403137 Link 3 |
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Ulsterman, I lived in Dublin for 15 years, and no, plenty certainly do not understand! I've travelled a fair bit, and I've met Germans, Turks, Ghanaians, French, Americans, even English, who know (and care) more about the history of British involvement in the N of Ireland than do many people in the South. (Meeting a bloke in Istanbul who greeted me in Irish and who spoke to me at length about Frank Kitson's tactics was a bit of an eye-opener!) You'll of course meet plenty of clued-in Southerners who do understand very well - esp. in certain parts of Dublin, and (in my experience) in Cork and Kerry. But you'll meet plenty more who, having been brought up under the most draconian state censorship in W Europe, are generally quite un-informed. The prevailing attitude, especially among the older generations, is a knee-jerk anti-Republicanism. That is widespread among older members of the Irish upper middle-class, who psychologically are often unable to rid themselves of the effects of decades of anti-Republican prejudice. This was fostered by previous Irish governments who, as we know, courtesy of Section 31 of the 1960 Broadcasting Authority Act, enthusiastically operated the most draconian anti-Republican censorship in Western Europe. But it is also in part is down to the increasing ahistoricism of young people, on both sides of the border. Compared to previous generations, young people nowadays have a greater tendency to live in social media bubbles. No person under 30 that I know bothers with RTÉ or BBC and they do not buy serious newspapers. Unless it's fashionably 'woke' gesture politics, or something trivial on Tiktok, they know zip about history (and care less) and they get their "news" lol from social media bubbles, un-curated podcasters and influencers etc. It's a wider problem for democracy tbh, not just empty-headed kids parroting weak jibes on sports pitches. I fully respect where you're coming from, and I suspect we'd disagree on very little. However, and this is just my view, I'd not be too concerned about such lazy attempts at insults. In fact, I'd be inclined to ignore them, or laugh at them. I never played sport seriously, but in any competitive sport I did play, I always viewed trash talking, of any sort, as a compliment, and I'd use it to spur me on - not to get distracted by silly verbals but to make sure I'd line him up for some proper teeth-rattling shoulders and to run him into the ground more than I might otherwise have done. The one thing I always dreaded in competition was a mannerly and honourable opponent (there are plenty) who shook your hand and played a tough but sporting game - I functioned much better when I loathed my opponent, and an obviously decent opponent would always weaken me far more than some yahoo. That is, trash talking is a motivational advantage. Far from being concerned about it, players should be trained to view it as a motivational advantage, and even to welcome it. Water off a duck's back etc. I also think that we should not be too quick to judge someone to be racist or prejudiced whatever merely because they do some trash talking. Trash talking of necessity defaults to lowest common denominator rubbish. By definition, it will quickly descend into stereotypically offensive clichés. But I do not believe that most trash talkers seriously believe what they're saying - they know it's mindless drivel, and it's said purely to get a rise out of you, to take your mind off the game. If someone called me "British" on a sports field, I'd laugh and ask did his wee country want a bail out loan or some help with the Russian navy etc - take the proverbial back. People soon stop when they see its not having the desired effect. By reacting badly, you just encourage it. But I'd still put the shoulder through him though lol essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 01/03/2022 09:44:29 2403156 Link 2 |
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Brian, 100% correct and a welcome voice of sanity in this thread. I went to college with a lot of N Antrim hurlers, sound lads to a man, but we'd always say - "the Glens - where men are men and sheep are nervous" lol : ) Absolutely no harm intended, and they gave back more than they got : )
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 01/03/2022 09:48:36 2403160 Link 0 |
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God you are a real clown
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12009 - 01/03/2022 09:56:30 2403164 Link 3 |
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Hmm, the victim culture thing is largely a post-Troubles thing. It's a global trend in this century and tends to be the preserve of people who never had any serious difficulties in their wee lives. Snowflakes talking about "microaggressions" etc never experienced actual aggressions, of that you can be certain. If you experience real difficulties in your life, you want to fight through and be a winner, not be a whinger. Whinging is a luxury for spoilt people. No person of my generation sees themselves as victims - we see ourselves as resourceful people from self-sufficient communities who stood up to superior odds (when the South stood idly by). Community I grew up in, nobody complained (not that there would even have been anyone to complain to - even our politicians were censored), you just got on with your life and did not give a rap about anyone in authority, on either side of the border, viewing them all as useless, at best.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 01/03/2022 09:59:17 2403166 Link 1 |
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It's very offensive to some people who have lost relatives on account of the political situation up there. Some of these have never even visited Britain. Most people killed during the troubles were killed because of politics not religion. Most people on the island of whatever political persuasion probably dont truly believe a god exists so why would religion be off limits?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12009 - 01/03/2022 10:03:20 2403168 Link 2 |
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You seem extremely outraged at one incident (and rightly so) but completely dismissive of the one in discussion at present. Since you've already admitted 'the door swings both ways', why would you do that?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 01/03/2022 10:24:58 2403177 Link 0 |