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That Tyrone/Armagh Row

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Replying To wishfulthinkin:  "rows used to be worth it back before lads spent all their time in the gym working on mirror muscles and focusing on their jersey pulling and pushing techniques."
Nobody messes with wishful.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 10/02/2022 19:04:08    2399726

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Hopefully they do review the video evidence as Cavanagh has pointed out

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 67 - 10/02/2022 21:02:17    2399739

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Nobody messes with wishful."
Yes indeed. Another way to underline your warrior credentials, other than throwing sly slaps on a football field, is to talk about them on anonymous Internet forums.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 11/02/2022 08:45:11    2399747

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Tyrone can get some of those red cards rescinded if they can prove that the refereeing decision per card was inconsistent with his decision making for the rest of the match. Don't think they'll have any problems proving that if they get their hands on good video evidence.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 12/02/2022 18:52:20    2399967

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Tyrone fáil in all Appeals against red cards. Well done to the Gaa, County boards CCC's and Appeals committees should take note.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 15/02/2022 13:16:30    2400476

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Replying To reffingmad:  "Tyrone fáil in all Appeals against red cards. Well done to the Gaa, County boards CCC's and Appeals committees should take note."
Watch similar events happen in the championship and nothing done. The league remains the guinea pig for new rules and regulations which quietly are ignored in summer.

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 15/02/2022 14:16:33    2400497

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Replying To reffingmad:  "Tyrone fáil in all Appeals against red cards. Well done to the Gaa, County boards CCC's and Appeals committees should take note."
If similar action had been taken by the referee in the Roscommon-Meath game would you be applauding the decisions? The problem is the complete lack of consistency. Colm O'Rourke and his likes can praise David Gough all they like but the fact is that players from other counties have done far worse than the four Tyrone players and got away scot free.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 15/02/2022 14:54:21    2400508

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Replying To midlands:  "If similar action had been taken by the referee in the Roscommon-Meath game would you be applauding the decisions? The problem is the complete lack of consistency. Colm O'Rourke and his likes can praise David Gough all they like but the fact is that players from other counties have done far worse than the four Tyrone players and got away scot free."
I would and the same would apply to any game involving Galway. We have to start somewhere, otherwise we just end up going around in circles.
Consistency can only come from the GAA backing the ref and empowering them all to do the same.
There's no point in talking about what happened in games in the past. That'll get us nowhere.
Draw a line in the sand and let every county know they'll get the same punishment from now on for any player joining a scuffle.
On a slightly separate issue but related, the GAA need to be completely transparent when it comes to appeals by counties to have suspensions or red cards overturned. If it's due to a technicality, then release that information, so at least we know and the detail can be buttoned up for next time.
Otherwise, it completely undermines referees and also creates frustration for supporters.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2049 - 15/02/2022 15:37:32    2400519

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Replying To reffingmad:  "Tyrone fáil in all Appeals against red cards. Well done to the Gaa, County boards CCC's and Appeals committees should take note."
I would say well done to the GAA if they managed to be consisent with the rules. You had the Kerry/Dublin and the hurling recent were people were dragged and pulled to the ground with no action take.

I watched the hampsey incidient again and at no point did he strike or put anyone in a headlock. So question is why was he red carded when others including Armagh players werent.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 15/02/2022 15:54:22    2400523

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Replying To midlands:  "If similar action had been taken by the referee in the Roscommon-Meath game would you be applauding the decisions? The problem is the complete lack of consistency. Colm O'Rourke and his likes can praise David Gough all they like but the fact is that players from other counties have done far worse than the four Tyrone players and got away scot free."
I wouldn't be to worried about begrudger's , Tyrone will take their punishment as long as there is a level playing field regarding future scuffles, luckily it's Kildare next and not the other big teams.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 15/02/2022 15:58:34    2400525

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I would and the same would apply to any game involving Galway. We have to start somewhere, otherwise we just end up going around in circles.
Consistency can only come from the GAA backing the ref and empowering them all to do the same.
There's no point in talking about what happened in games in the past. That'll get us nowhere.
Draw a line in the sand and let every county know they'll get the same punishment from now on for any player joining a scuffle.
On a slightly separate issue but related, the GAA need to be completely transparent when it comes to appeals by counties to have suspensions or red cards overturned. If it's due to a technicality, then release that information, so at least we know and the detail can be buttoned up for next time.
Otherwise, it completely undermines referees and also creates frustration for supporters."
Totally agree with everything from "On a slightly separate issue but related" onward

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1042 - 15/02/2022 17:20:36    2400542

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Replying To Saynothing:  "I wouldn't be to worried about begrudger's , Tyrone will take their punishment as long as there is a level playing field regarding future scuffles, luckily it's Kildare next and not the other big teams."
No begrudging here, if it happened to my club or county I'd have the same attitude. The key now is to see consistency across the country and by various ccc"s.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 15/02/2022 17:28:48    2400546

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I would and the same would apply to any game involving Galway. We have to start somewhere, otherwise we just end up going around in circles.
Consistency can only come from the GAA backing the ref and empowering them all to do the same.
There's no point in talking about what happened in games in the past. That'll get us nowhere.
Draw a line in the sand and let every county know they'll get the same punishment from now on for any player joining a scuffle.
On a slightly separate issue but related, the GAA need to be completely transparent when it comes to appeals by counties to have suspensions or red cards overturned. If it's due to a technicality, then release that information, so at least we know and the detail can be buttoned up for next time.
Otherwise, it completely undermines referees and also creates frustration for supporters."
Everything you say there is bang on.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 15/02/2022 17:46:08    2400549

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I would and the same would apply to any game involving Galway. We have to start somewhere, otherwise we just end up going around in circles.
Consistency can only come from the GAA backing the ref and empowering them all to do the same.
There's no point in talking about what happened in games in the past. That'll get us nowhere.
Draw a line in the sand and let every county know they'll get the same punishment from now on for any player joining a scuffle.
On a slightly separate issue but related, the GAA need to be completely transparent when it comes to appeals by counties to have suspensions or red cards overturned. If it's due to a technicality, then release that information, so at least we know and the detail can be buttoned up for next time.
Otherwise, it completely undermines referees and also creates frustration for supporters."
But drawing lines in the sand when it suits is not necessary right either. Consistency is all any team wants and to establish this you must be mindful of the past.
I like your point on transparency. I would love if the organisation felt the same

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 15/02/2022 18:18:21    2400555

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Replying To kevin03:  "I would say well done to the GAA if they managed to be consisent with the rules. You had the Kerry/Dublin and the hurling recent were people were dragged and pulled to the ground with no action take.

I watched the hampsey incidient again and at no point did he strike or put anyone in a headlock. So question is why was he red carded when others including Armagh players werent."
Maybe the referee and his umpires were only watching the Tyrone players.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 15/02/2022 18:52:49    2400559

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The last time there's was a brawl that amounted to nothing Peter the great got sent off and there were posters up in certain places in my own county of Peters image on a film poster " gone in 60 seconds" . That backfired big time as 4 weeks later the same Peter stepped up to take a free that sent Armagh home and Tyrone through to the AI final 2005. Seige mentality will now take hold in Tyrone. This will now be their extra man on the pitch...

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 15/02/2022 21:12:19    2400577

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Replying To kevin03:  "I would say well done to the GAA if they managed to be consisent with the rules. You had the Kerry/Dublin and the hurling recent were people were dragged and pulled to the ground with no action take.

I watched the hampsey incidient again and at no point did he strike or put anyone in a headlock. So question is why was he red carded when others including Armagh players werent."
Hampsey was red carded for what happened afterwards

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 15/02/2022 21:22:49    2400581

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Replying To midlands:  "Maybe the referee and his umpires were only watching the Tyrone players."
Take no notice of refs and umpires, how they saw an imaginary Scully in Dublin game explains all. On umpires, do they be on their phones, every game at least one would stand gawking at each other for a prompt of what to do.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 16/02/2022 08:49:24    2400599

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Replying To Saynothing:  "I wouldn't be to worried about begrudger's , Tyrone will take their punishment as long as there is a level playing field regarding future scuffles, luckily it's Kildare next and not the other big teams."
I hope we trounce ye

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 16/02/2022 11:21:37    2400626

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "I hope we trounce ye"
Gotcha.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 16/02/2022 11:57:43    2400651

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