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Any one have any idea what the team will be tonight? Hopefully there a few new lads in the team that get a couple of games. Hopefully Vinny gets it right regarding youth and experience. Beggan, wylie Boyle mcphillips, loughran Lavelle duffy, ward Hughes, Gallagher bannigan carey, ó Hanlon mccarron Jones. Anyone make any switches or like to see someone get some game time?

MonaghanMaverick (Monaghan) - Posts: 13 - 28/01/2023 12:03:23    2454691

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Strange line out no Hughes, Mohan midfield, Jones on bench. Unless changes r made later

Monaghanfan123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 28/01/2023 12:20:01    2454697

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Good luck to Vinny and the team later. I see the usual nonsence of not naming the team until right before the game is continuing under the new mgmt. Is there even a panel named for the league ?

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 28/01/2023 12:29:38    2454701

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Apologies just seen it.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 28/01/2023 12:33:30    2454704

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Replying To Clonesgaa:  "You'd know"
Best wishes to Monaghan tonight. We should beat Armagh by about 4pts.

Best wishes to Jack.

Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 28/01/2023 14:52:20    2454743

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Ongoing muppetry in 'Blayney. Lots of people 'keeping seats' for people who have not arrived yet, preventing people who've arrived in plenty of time from sitting in the stand.

I thought there was a stewards training session held recently? Did they not outline the principles of general admission and first come first served??

Overheard an Armagh fan complain to an orange jacket as he looked in frustration at a row of empty seats. Steward just threw his hands I in the air and said 'what can we do?'

'i'll be all right Jack' attitude abounds.

At least the PA is working, so there's that.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 208 - 28/01/2023 18:04:28    2454780

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "Ongoing muppetry in 'Blayney. Lots of people 'keeping seats' for people who have not arrived yet, preventing people who've arrived in plenty of time from sitting in the stand.

I thought there was a stewards training session held recently? Did they not outline the principles of general admission and first come first served??

Overheard an Armagh fan complain to an orange jacket as he looked in frustration at a row of empty seats. Steward just threw his hands I in the air and said 'what can we do?'

'i'll be all right Jack' attitude abounds.

At least the PA is working, so there's that."
Might be better if the PA isn't working...
Good luck to Vinny and all in the setup.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1189 - 28/01/2023 18:13:40    2454783

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First 10/15 mins of second half killed monaghan with armagh dominating their knockout. Beggan kickout was under serious pressure. He gave away a v soft goal in first half when monaghan doing well so a bad day for him. The team tried manfully to get back into the game heads never dropped wylie duffy bannigan Jones were good but armagh always looked like they had another gear in intensity and quality. Vinnie can't do much about the players who aren't available for one reason or another but looks like a v tough league ahead.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 28/01/2023 20:57:59    2454813

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Replying To seanie08:  "First 10/15 mins of second half killed monaghan with armagh dominating their knockout. Beggan kickout was under serious pressure. He gave away a v soft goal in first half when monaghan doing well so a bad day for him. The team tried manfully to get back into the game heads never dropped wylie duffy bannigan Jones were good but armagh always looked like they had another gear in intensity and quality. Vinnie can't do much about the players who aren't available for one reason or another but looks like a v tough league ahead."
I was hugely encouraged by tonight's performance the future is bright and feel good factor is back after the Banty debacle….I fully expect us to beat a severely weakened Kerry team next week and also beat the Rosie's and Donegal at home and possibly tryone is well so think wel stay up again…let's hope vinny sticks with youth and new lads and dosent revert back to starting a 35 & 36 year old who's role now should be off an impact sub…

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 569 - 28/01/2023 21:21:02    2454825

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Replying To mick2007:  "I was hugely encouraged by tonight's performance the future is bright and feel good factor is back after the Banty debacle….I fully expect us to beat a severely weakened Kerry team next week and also beat the Rosie's and Donegal at home and possibly tryone is well so think wel stay up again…let's hope vinny sticks with youth and new lads and dosent revert back to starting a 35 & 36 year old who's role now should be off an impact sub…"
I was impressed by the players attitude to firstly Beggans howler and then making a fight of it after going six points down but there is no getting away from the fact that when games get serious and ball needs to be won under pressure we lack players in the middle third to provide an outlet. To be fair hopefully we were missing a few lads so hopefully we have better options the next day out.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 29/01/2023 09:56:20    2454859

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Not the result we wanted, its going to be a tough season for vinny and co as they work off probably the most inexperienced Monaghan panel since 2011 when we lost to Tyrone in Omagh.

But coming out of Blayney I was happy with the performance the endeavor and fight that the team showed. I do agree that the county is fully behind the set up and will fully support Vinny as he tries to reshape and rebuild a team with some key personel missing.

To lose Kelly during the warm up and McCarron after 5 minutes, meant Monaghan lost the impact of Jones and O'Hanlon of the bench for the second half.

The game was lost in the first 10 minutes of the second half when Armagh pushed up and squeezed the kick out. I felt sorry for Rory as the option were non existant for the short kick out, but the fact Monaghan were missing Kearns, two Hughes, Woods, Mohan and Leonard meant all the aerial target we had over last season where gone.

I do think we could pick up a few wins along the way but one thing I am certain of leaving blayney is that Armagh will fail yet again in their pursuit of Ulster.

I think they have a lot of hyped up players who will crumble like they always do in the heat of the Ulster championship.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 29/01/2023 10:37:04    2454874

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Not the result we wanted, its going to be a tough season for vinny and co as they work off probably the most inexperienced Monaghan panel since 2011 when we lost to Tyrone in Omagh.

But coming out of Blayney I was happy with the performance the endeavor and fight that the team showed. I do agree that the county is fully behind the set up and will fully support Vinny as he tries to reshape and rebuild a team with some key personel missing.

To lose Kelly during the warm up and McCarron after 5 minutes, meant Monaghan lost the impact of Jones and O'Hanlon of the bench for the second half.

The game was lost in the first 10 minutes of the second half when Armagh pushed up and squeezed the kick out. I felt sorry for Rory as the option were non existant for the short kick out, but the fact Monaghan were missing Kearns, two Hughes, Woods, Mohan and Leonard meant all the aerial target we had over last season where gone.

I do think we could pick up a few wins along the way but one thing I am certain of leaving blayney is that Armagh will fail yet again in their pursuit of Ulster.

I think they have a lot of hyped up players who will crumble like they always do in the heat of the Ulster championship."
you are right there we will put an end to their ulster campaign this year Cavan abu

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 484 - 29/01/2023 13:21:17    2454923

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Some good individual performances, particularly from Bannigan, O'Hanlon, Jones and a few others. It was good to see Lavelle back again too. Early days and hopefully this will bring the team on a bit. Some players looked to be blowing a bit hard at the end.

However, Armagh could have been well ahead at the break and when they put their foot down for the first 10 minutes of the second half Monaghan had no answer. Once Lennon went off at halftime the lack of physicality and height in midfield was obvious. They weren't even big enough to contest and spoil. It's an invitation to other teams to go long and gain possession high up the field. Every team in division 1 has a much better midfield than the one that started the second half for Monaghan. It looked at one point as if Monaghan wouldn't get the ball back again apart from kicking it out. If Mohan and Leonard are not available it's difficult to see Monaghan getting any points in this division and every game will damage morale.

Kearns is a big miss but if Leonard is available then along with Mohan that could be a strong midfield. I think a few of the other midfield options from the McKenna cup need to be tried (maybe Hughes from Clontibret). They couldn't have less impact.

Hopefully just teething troubles but one mistake from the last regime is being repeated: why is Shane Carey still getting a game?

Finally the streaming coverage was appalling, particularly in the first half. Bizarre camera switches, no replays, the GAA logo appearing randomly, the wrong score shown for 5 minutes. At one stage they were showing the game though the nets at the back of the goal. If that was the BBC's effort it was brutal.

PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 191 - 29/01/2023 15:12:17    2454941

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Ros & Donegal winning today makes last nights lose to Armagh a really bad wknd for us.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 29/01/2023 15:41:21    2454951

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Replying To PolicemanFox:  "Some good individual performances, particularly from Bannigan, O'Hanlon, Jones and a few others. It was good to see Lavelle back again too. Early days and hopefully this will bring the team on a bit. Some players looked to be blowing a bit hard at the end.

However, Armagh could have been well ahead at the break and when they put their foot down for the first 10 minutes of the second half Monaghan had no answer. Once Lennon went off at halftime the lack of physicality and height in midfield was obvious. They weren't even big enough to contest and spoil. It's an invitation to other teams to go long and gain possession high up the field. Every team in division 1 has a much better midfield than the one that started the second half for Monaghan. It looked at one point as if Monaghan wouldn't get the ball back again apart from kicking it out. If Mohan and Leonard are not available it's difficult to see Monaghan getting any points in this division and every game will damage morale.

Kearns is a big miss but if Leonard is available then along with Mohan that could be a strong midfield. I think a few of the other midfield options from the McKenna cup need to be tried (maybe Hughes from Clontibret). They couldn't have less impact.

Hopefully just teething troubles but one mistake from the last regime is being repeated: why is Shane Carey still getting a game?

Finally the streaming coverage was appalling, particularly in the first half. Bizarre camera switches, no replays, the GAA logo appearing randomly, the wrong score shown for 5 minutes. At one stage they were showing the game though the nets at the back of the goal. If that was the BBC's effort it was brutal."
I find it strange that Truagh only have one representative on the county and it not long after they featured in a county final and ran Scotstown close. They've a few 6 footers that'd surely be worth a look at.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 29/01/2023 19:34:01    2455071

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A new dawn last night. It will probably will get worse before it may get better. Monaghan played well but armagh are a little further ahead at present and deserved the win. Vinnie has the task of really trying to build monahan up again but it remains to be seen if the players are there. I do expect a drop off of what has gone before in quality and skill. The monaghan team from 2013 to 2022 was a serious team that arguably left an all Ireland final appearance behind and two more ulster titles. I think the next decade won't be as kind.

222 (UK) - Posts: 844 - 29/01/2023 20:31:07    2455107

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "I find it strange that Truagh only have one representative on the county and it not long after they featured in a county final and ran Scotstown close. They've a few 6 footers that'd surely be worth a look at."
Maybe having a look at why Donaghmoyne, Maraghacloone, Carrick, Kilanny and Blaney have so little representation is a bigger question. One player on the panel from all teams and each team with large numbers.

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 409 - 29/01/2023 20:35:05    2455110

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "I find it strange that Truagh only have one representative on the county and it not long after they featured in a county final and ran Scotstown close. They've a few 6 footers that'd surely be worth a look at."
If the Truagh players had surnames like Carey, they would be playing, is our new management guna gets some balls and drop Shane Carey he has got chance after chance year in year out and he will never make county standard ,no offence to the chap ,but he just can't play on the bigger stage, a good clubman.

Blanket (Monaghan) - Posts: 42 - 29/01/2023 20:38:34    2455113

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "you are right there we will put an end to their ulster campaign this year Cavan abu"
We'll be resting our players for the AI series during the Ulster Championship so knock yourselves out.

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 29/01/2023 20:51:17    2455121

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Replying To monaghanmad:  "Maybe having a look at why Donaghmoyne, Maraghacloone, Carrick, Kilanny and Blaney have so little representation is a bigger question. One player on the panel from all teams and each team with large numbers."
Yeah very fair point. Seems a lot of managers are blind to the talent outside the obvious names around the county.
I always find it crazy that when a team wins a junior or intermediate championship they end up having 3/4 fellas on the county the next year..whereas the lads playing for senior clubs don't get a look in unless they're winning the county final.
Sean Boylan in his hey day was able to pick a player that'd be underrated even in his own club and get him to do a job on the county team, seems the managers that come to Monaghan just get told who the county players are and that's that.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 29/01/2023 21:54:49    2455148

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