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Pardon me for butting in here on another counties forum. I just want to advise all to think long and hard about the siting of a centre of excellence. We put ours in an elevated and exposed rural setting literally in the middle of nowhere, serviced by 3 roads which would better be described as boreens. It's a fine facility and seems to be improving the standards at juvenile level but it is very remote from many of our clubs, particularly from west of the hills and the south of the county.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 999 - 30/12/2023 12:28:09 2517864 Link 0 |
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Start of a New Year and the OByrne Cup and Walsh cup start off proceedings. I'm not buying into the hype of Carlow been in the promotion race in Div 4, sounds like Carew trying to justify his position. I think hes very fortunate to be still there and only holding it till Joe Murphy decides to tip his toes in intercounty management. Despite this i'll still be there supporting them against Kildare. Hurlers out against Kilkenny will bring a good crowd to the county grounds. Great season last year and hopefully tgeir competitive at the top table. jigger (None) - Posts: 96 - 01/01/2024 12:22:50 2517987 Link 0 |
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Yes I agree if eire og can find a man marker for Egan they could shade it. I'd qualify that though by saying aside from the first 20 mins pal looked a far better team, and if they can get a good start on Saturday they could sneak it. The black card was game changing.
Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 01/01/2024 16:38:00 2518006 Link 0 |
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Brendan Murphy is not back in with the County panel. Was a lovely thought for a while...
carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 213 - 02/01/2024 11:00:05 2518043 Link 0 |
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It's very easy to be critical but to have practical and wprlable solutions is a different matter! That is my initial reaction to your post ! Tye Centre of Excellence is not in a bad place. It's pretty central for clubs within yhe county and represents a decision made at a particular time taking into consideration all the variables at play at that tome with an eye on the future also. And the most important consideration was cost to purchase the site. What do yiu think the site is worth now? Would it sell and would it be farmers only who would be interested in it ? The centre to my mind has excellent pitches. Just the railings alone all around the pitches and the concrete footpath on pitch 1 cost a lot of money. Putting it in another venue now is farcical and shortsighted. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 03/01/2024 14:50:36 2518207 Link 1 |
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Agree. I think the training center has been a good Investment, I wonder though would we have been better to say go the darver route where they seem to have prioritised the bricks and mortar while the pitches are average and in some cases poor, I think the location is perfect it's the middle of the county but again and this comes back to the initial decision on developing it, there is no gym, so if you want to do an hour on the field and an hour in the gym you have to go to the outisde pitch at ncp, hopefully that can be rectified soon if not then maybe other options should be looked at. To get full use of the training center it needs a gym, meeting rooms, canteen. I think longer term you could look at stands and such but priority has to be to the above if its to be viable as a training center. Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 03/01/2024 15:31:41 2518224 Link 0 |
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How are people who don't drive supposed to get to it? ie. all children under 17 and a growing number of adults (particularly in the town - where half the county lives). And what is the point in having a good gym in Doctor Cullen Park and then another one in the middle of nowhere in Fenagh? It should be in the town (or even in Bagenalstown). Never should have been built down there. No public transport. Many miles away from all our main population centers. There are five pitches beside Doctor Cullen Park. If they bought the Rugby club (which as I said is broke and would probably agree to sell), they'd have seven. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 03/01/2024 16:00:54 2518229 Link 0 |
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If Carlow aren't in the promotion race in Carew's fourth season, why is he still there? On Tailteann Cup form - for the last two seasons, Carlow are top 24. They have beaten Tipperary, Longford, Wicklow (Div 3) and New York and suffered narrow enough defeats to Westmeath (Div 3) and Antrim (Div 3). I do note the bookies predict us to come 6th (which is a bit weird given the above), and expect Leix and Longford to get promoted, with Leitrim to be third. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 03/01/2024 16:08:22 2518231 Link 0 |
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If there is anyone at the match they kindly might post a report … interesting to see how some of the new seniors fare out … Kildare will be a big test
Bainisteoir (National) - Posts: 540 - 03/01/2024 17:16:01 2518239 Link 0 |
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They tried hard in fairness but were run ragged for most of the time. Not able to win any long kicks out and under severe pressure from kildare forwards for the short ones. Kildare looked very fit which is to be expected. The goal before half time was a suckener and the 15 mins after the break was all kildare. (1-4 to 0). We couldn't get the ball into their half and on the few occasions we did we lost possession too easily. We improved after that and scored 6 to their 5 but they had slackened off by then. Our 3 best forwards (imo) dunphy, Clarke and crowley were not there or in subs. Are they injured or what. We're at nothing without them anyway. Young phiri did very well and mikey bambrick tried to get them moving but it's difficult to do from full back. Better days ahead I hope but need everyone on board
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 203 - 03/01/2024 21:39:59 2518267 Link 0 |
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Just in from the game tonight, i thought in the first half we restricted Kildare, but they just opened up and won 2-17 to 10. The bench i thought looked weak enough there must be another 15 missing if reports of 40 in training are correct. Maybe hes resting them for the shield game against Wicklow. Hulton looked to have sustained a serious looking injury near the end. Positives i thought Conor Doyle when dropped deep collected a lot of ball and scored a great point. Young Piri played well enough second half and was rewarded with a point. Kildare looked physically massive and just skipped around defenders at times with ease. I thought Furys kickout were poor enough at times especially 1st half. I know its a division 1 team v div 4 but very little signs of optimism to be got out of this. If Wicklow beat them Saturday it could be a long season.
jigger (None) - Posts: 96 - 03/01/2024 21:45:40 2518268 Link 0 |
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The score reflected the overall game to be honest. Kildare played a strong enough team and they had forwards of quality who picked us off easily at times. On the other hand, we started the game with more or less 13 defenders and 2 natural forwards. Carew obviosuly wanted to shut up shop early and go from there. Big positive to take from the game would be John Phiri. He put in a fantastic performance. A great engine, won kickouts and got on plenty of ball with a nice score too. Next up Wicklow and we should see a more attack minded team for that game. EireOgAbu (Carlow) - Posts: 17 - 04/01/2024 09:58:41 2518290 Link 0 |
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Didn't make it to the game, kildare would be a long way ahead of us though, a division 2 team who will be in the shake up for promotion I would imagine. Good to see John phiri getting a start, he is one for the future, hopefully once the under 20s is over this weekend we will see josh Egan get a game too, I think he has a lot to offer, no conor crowley though is he involved? Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 04/01/2024 10:42:22 2518302 Link 0 |
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Crowley, Dunphy and Niall hickey on holidays will be back for all the league, two Clarkes have injuries since club championship just coming back now. I think we've a good team with those guys back, John Murphy Tinryland and Colin Byrne rathvilly good additions. From the Kildare game we definitely need improvement on kickouts if we are to get out of d4.
Carlovian83 (Carlow) - Posts: 5 - 04/01/2024 11:40:10 2518315 Link 0 |
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Thanks for that carlovian. That's good news anyway. Seanie bambrick any word on him? Another big addition if available
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 203 - 04/01/2024 12:39:41 2518324 Link 0 |
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The big take away from a Carlow perspective in yesterday's game was the gulf in fitness levels between both sides. With the exception of John Phiri and maybe Amond Carlow looked to be out on their feet all through the second half and even in the first half for some players. Kildares extra bit of skill and talent that penetrated Carlow at times is to be expected and wouldn't be as concerning as our worrying fitness levels. Kildare were able to come up with their scores much easier than Carlow and in truth should have scored a lot more. This is an ongoing trend for Carlow having to work harder for scores than their opposition and is also possibly linked to fitness? Kickouts were very poor yesterday and in possession we struggled to get up the pitch at pace - possibly from having 13+ behind the ball far too often. All that said, it's the first game back and there is scope to improve for the national league, our performance against Wicklow should be more telling. Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 127 - 04/01/2024 13:38:54 2518336 Link 0 |
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He's away for the year as far as I'm aware. Wicklow match is Saturday up in bray emmets pitch at half 1, bit of a joke really
Carlovian83 (Carlow) - Posts: 5 - 04/01/2024 14:12:28 2518341 Link 0 |
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Absolutely. A good training session would be far more productive.
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 203 - 04/01/2024 19:06:57 2518386 Link 0 |
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Kildare have their sights set on a Leinster carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 05/01/2024 17:52:41 2518522 Link 0 |
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I'm not too sure many would agree with your sentiments here. My experience has always been that you find out things about players in a game that may not show up in training sessions - regardless of the opposition on the day. For the record, tomorrows match should be close but on Tuesdays showing v Wexford, we will need to improve.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 999 - 05/01/2024 20:50:52 2518548 Link 0 |