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Replying To Barrowsider:  "I would imagine it has to move back to evens if we want a hurling league to compete in. But I've heard of no vote or anything on it. Unless there was one at convention"
Knowing our county board, they will do something nuts like have U-16 teams for leagues and U-15 for championships, meaning clubs will be de facto playing with year younger sides against Kilkenny teams.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 10/12/2023 13:26:41    2516187

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "I can confirm that he is, he will take some stopping"
Brendan Murphy could have been Carlow's greatest player of all time.

I have huge sympathy for Brendan. It has to be hard to know you're good enough to play for Dublin or Kerry, and win All Stars, but instead be bound to a weaker county that has been INCREDIBLY poorly run for decades. Don't forget, when he was about 24/25, Carlow were so bad that many people wanted us to regrade to Junior.

Nevertheless, did he take the county seriously, and set an example to less gifted lads? Going to the US and missing our best season since the 1960s (would we have beaten Leix in the Leinster semi if he'd been around?); getting sent off (I know he was targeted, but so is David Clifford and he doesn't get put off in every second or third game); entering and leaving panels.

His display for the Carlow under 21s against Dublin in Newbridge is the greatest performance I have ever seen a Carlow footballer give.

I would love to see Brendan come back in and have a last hurrah. If we got promoted again, or won the Tailteann Cup, it would be Roy of the Rovers stuff.

Such a talent. I do understand why he was so frustrated with Carlow, especially the county board. But you also have to wonder what might have been....

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 10/12/2023 13:35:23    2516192

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Under 20s football down to the knockout stages, eire dispatched michael davits on Saturday and will fave clonmore in the quarters mlr will face davits in the other quarter. Palatine and t rathvilly await them in the semis, it will be one of rathvilly palatine or eire og that will win it as those 3 are a long way ahead of the rest, hard to say which but on the back of 4 minors in a row you would imagine eire og will have too much for whoever they play.

Division 2 has been more competitive especially the group with naomh eoin fenagh fighting cocks and o'hanrahans, with all games being fairly close and that will benefit each of those clubs, tinryland asca kildavin clonegal and ballon made up the other group where tinryland and kildavin look to be a bit clear of the rest with asca really struggling, I think a naomh eoin tinryland final is probably the most likely with naomh eoin slight favorites.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 10/12/2023 13:47:35    2516194

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "I can confirm that he is, he will take some stopping"
Where are you getting this information? I was told that he is not

Collio (Carlow) - Posts: 30 - 10/12/2023 15:32:42    2516208

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Replying To CARPS:  "Brendan Murphy could have been Carlow's greatest player of all time.

I have huge sympathy for Brendan. It has to be hard to know you're good enough to play for Dublin or Kerry, and win All Stars, but instead be bound to a weaker county that has been INCREDIBLY poorly run for decades. Don't forget, when he was about 24/25, Carlow were so bad that many people wanted us to regrade to Junior.

Nevertheless, did he take the county seriously, and set an example to less gifted lads? Going to the US and missing our best season since the 1960s (would we have beaten Leix in the Leinster semi if he'd been around?); getting sent off (I know he was targeted, but so is David Clifford and he doesn't get put off in every second or third game); entering and leaving panels.

His display for the Carlow under 21s against Dublin in Newbridge is the greatest performance I have ever seen a Carlow footballer give.

I would love to see Brendan come back in and have a last hurrah. If we got promoted again, or won the Tailteann Cup, it would be Roy of the Rovers stuff.

Such a talent. I do understand why he was so frustrated with Carlow, especially the county board. But you also have to wonder what might have been...."
That was on doctor Cullen. You're thinking of the 84 game against dublin Newbridge. Another lost opportunity.
I think it's likely carlow rising is trolling sadly. His team of Murphys seems to confirm it.

But yes brendan Murphy is without doubt the greatest player we have ever seen, if he was born in dublin he would have 8 or 9 all Irelands. That minor run in 07 was all him, and the 21s game on paddy's day I think? Was a performance for the ages, dublin tried several markers on him that day, Diaz came on got a yellow off him I actually think everyone that marked him was booked that day. He had it everyway, power speed skill. His point from the sideline against louth, if that was Clifford we would never hear the end of it.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 10/12/2023 20:38:57    2516262

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "That was on doctor Cullen. You're thinking of the 84 game against dublin Newbridge. Another lost opportunity.
I think it's likely carlow rising is trolling sadly. His team of Murphys seems to confirm it.

But yes brendan Murphy is without doubt the greatest player we have ever seen, if he was born in dublin he would have 8 or 9 all Irelands. That minor run in 07 was all him, and the 21s game on paddy's day I think? Was a performance for the ages, dublin tried several markers on him that day, Diaz came on got a yellow off him I actually think everyone that marked him was booked that day. He had it everyway, power speed skill. His point from the sideline against louth, if that was Clifford we would never hear the end of it."
Yes, DCP... not Newbridge. Sorry, brain melt. '84 was in Newbridge,

As for Murphy being "the greatest player we have ever seen," well he was definitely the greatest underage player we ever produced. Although Tommy Dwyer and Kevin Madden were very good too.

In terms of the greatest player we produced, well I assume that's someone from the 1940s or 1960s. Some older hands would say Pat Brophy, Cran Hogan or Brendan Hayden. Many, now departed, old timers I knew swore by Jim Morris, Jimma Rea, Drakes Walker, Andy Murphy or Peeney Whelan.

Heard a lot of people speak highly of Andy Murphy, as it happens. And from other counties, not just Carlow.

In the last 50 years, the best were probably Paddy Quirke, Willie Cullen, Johnny Nevin, Mark Carpenter, Andrew Corden, Tommy Dwyer, Kevin Madden, Brendan Murphy, Colm Hayden, Wille Doyle, Paul Broderick, Thomas Walsh and Jody Morrissey.

The last eight all have in common the fact that they never realized their full potential with the county, for various reasons. This seems to be a common Carlow story.

In a county like Kerry or Mayo, where footballers are well looked after, and encouraged, who knows how good they could have been?

As I understand, Brendan had enough of it after the Down game in 2019.

Yes, were were robbed. He was 100% right. And I totally understand why he got fed up. But I wish he'd stuck around longer. And I'd love to see him come back, while he still can.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 10/12/2023 22:26:04    2516285

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Replying To CARPS:  "Yes, DCP... not Newbridge. Sorry, brain melt. '84 was in Newbridge,

As for Murphy being "the greatest player we have ever seen," well he was definitely the greatest underage player we ever produced. Although Tommy Dwyer and Kevin Madden were very good too.

In terms of the greatest player we produced, well I assume that's someone from the 1940s or 1960s. Some older hands would say Pat Brophy, Cran Hogan or Brendan Hayden. Many, now departed, old timers I knew swore by Jim Morris, Jimma Rea, Drakes Walker, Andy Murphy or Peeney Whelan.

Heard a lot of people speak highly of Andy Murphy, as it happens. And from other counties, not just Carlow.

In the last 50 years, the best were probably Paddy Quirke, Willie Cullen, Johnny Nevin, Mark Carpenter, Andrew Corden, Tommy Dwyer, Kevin Madden, Brendan Murphy, Colm Hayden, Wille Doyle, Paul Broderick, Thomas Walsh and Jody Morrissey.

The last eight all have in common the fact that they never realized their full potential with the county, for various reasons. This seems to be a common Carlow story.

In a county like Kerry or Mayo, where footballers are well looked after, and encouraged, who knows how good they could have been?

As I understand, Brendan had enough of it after the Down game in 2019.

Yes, were were robbed. He was 100% right. And I totally understand why he got fed up. But I wish he'd stuck around longer. And I'd love to see him come back, while he still can."
Yes all great talents who would have been all stars with one of the big counties. But when you're rooted to the basement division it's hard to keep the talent.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 11/12/2023 09:25:29    2516308

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The jp money will be a great boost for all the clubs in Carlow. Roughly 25k each that would give clubs loads of options for the coming season, I wonder though would it be better spent putting that 1m towards the center of excellence, obviously it would be up to clubs themselves but it would be something that benefits everyone. Thoughts?

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 15/12/2023 09:03:30    2516871

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "The jp money will be a great boost for all the clubs in Carlow. Roughly 25k each that would give clubs loads of options for the coming season, I wonder though would it be better spent putting that 1m towards the center of excellence, obviously it would be up to clubs themselves but it would be something that benefits everyone. Thoughts?"
Firstly a huge thank you to JP, Noreen his wife and all the family for their very generous gift that will benefit the gaa.
It's up to the clubs it seems to decide what they want to do with the money gifted to them.
Perhaps some will buy more playing gear, upgrade their pitches with sand etc or put up spectator fencing or a new scoreboard or improve dressing rooms etc. Every club would have a list of where these monies could be spent.
It's hard to know what the clubs will decide.
I do think that the Centre of Excellence is one way that the monies could be spent - if the clubs decided on that.
What needs to be done there, 1. Carpark tarmacadam, 2. Dressing rooms 3. A stand for supporters and 4. More pitches ?
They are the options I think !
For all of these things to be done, I think could take a generation. Clubs currently are giving a yearly levy and this looks like continuing for many years to come.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 18/12/2023 21:30:27    2517349

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Replying To carlowman:  "Firstly a huge thank you to JP, Noreen his wife and all the family for their very generous gift that will benefit the gaa.
It's up to the clubs it seems to decide what they want to do with the money gifted to them.
Perhaps some will buy more playing gear, upgrade their pitches with sand etc or put up spectator fencing or a new scoreboard or improve dressing rooms etc. Every club would have a list of where these monies could be spent.
It's hard to know what the clubs will decide.
I do think that the Centre of Excellence is one way that the monies could be spent - if the clubs decided on that.
What needs to be done there, 1. Carpark tarmacadam, 2. Dressing rooms 3. A stand for supporters and 4. More pitches ?
They are the options I think !
For all of these things to be done, I think could take a generation. Clubs currently are giving a yearly levy and this looks like continuing for many years to come."
Having some solid buildings out there would be great, dressing rooms, meeting room,canteen physio room gym and upgraded warm up area would be my priorities out there. I was in faithful fields last year it is an incredible set up, darver in louth likewise, ofcourse its up to the clubs what they spend it on and they have needs too, the training center is something we all get use of though.

I hear minor is back to 18s, a good move for player retention

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 19/12/2023 08:49:17    2517364

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Replying To carlowman:  "Firstly a huge thank you to JP, Noreen his wife and all the family for their very generous gift that will benefit the gaa.
It's up to the clubs it seems to decide what they want to do with the money gifted to them.
Perhaps some will buy more playing gear, upgrade their pitches with sand etc or put up spectator fencing or a new scoreboard or improve dressing rooms etc. Every club would have a list of where these monies could be spent.
It's hard to know what the clubs will decide.
I do think that the Centre of Excellence is one way that the monies could be spent - if the clubs decided on that.
What needs to be done there, 1. Carpark tarmacadam, 2. Dressing rooms 3. A stand for supporters and 4. More pitches ?
They are the options I think !
For all of these things to be done, I think could take a generation. Clubs currently are giving a yearly levy and this looks like continuing for many years to come."
Why are you thanking Noreen and the family though?

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 127 - 19/12/2023 12:36:56    2517386

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "Why are you thanking Noreen and the family though?"
As far as I can garner JP himself has mentioned his wife and his family !

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 19/12/2023 20:33:07    2517430

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2 decent under 20 football semis on Friday night in Centre of Excellence. Eire Og take on Rathvilly and MLR take on Palatine.
One starts 15 min after the other.
Based on results to date Eire Og v Rathvilly could go either way with Pal favourites to beat MLR.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 21/12/2023 12:58:46    2517560

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Replying To carlowman:  "2 decent under 20 football semis on Friday night in Centre of Excellence. Eire Og take on Rathvilly and MLR take on Palatine.
One starts 15 min after the other.
Based on results to date Eire Og v Rathvilly could go either way with Pal favourites to beat MLR."
Yes you would imagine eire og vs rathvilly will be tight although you would have to fancy eire og after winning the last 4 minors. Pal should account for mlr in the other semi.
Div2 sees tinryland play kildavin clonegal again, with ballon and the cocks in the other semi , I'll go for a tinryland ballon final in this

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 21/12/2023 15:29:54    2517575

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "Yes you would imagine eire og vs rathvilly will be tight although you would have to fancy eire og after winning the last 4 minors. Pal should account for mlr in the other semi.
Div2 sees tinryland play kildavin clonegal again, with ballon and the cocks in the other semi , I'll go for a tinryland ballon final in this"
Mlr should be favourites but missing too many of main players this year due to injuries etc. James Bible, Patrick Stafford, Evan Kealy, Brad Bolger, young Brennan etc.. all played massive rolls in wining the last years championship. so very hard for any team to sustain that! Seem to Cost them the hurling final also.. Rathvilly were hot favourites at minor level with this team but caught by mlr by 1pt in semi, so don't write them off v EO!

Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 24 - 21/12/2023 22:39:31    2517600

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Replying To Carlowtothecore1:  "Mlr should be favourites but missing too many of main players this year due to injuries etc. James Bible, Patrick Stafford, Evan Kealy, Brad Bolger, young Brennan etc.. all played massive rolls in wining the last years championship. so very hard for any team to sustain that! Seem to Cost them the hurling final also.. Rathvilly were hot favourites at minor level with this team but caught by mlr by 1pt in semi, so don't write them off v EO!"
Yes if I recall this rathvilly team won 12 14 then it switched to odd numbers I could be wrong there. But it's a good rathvilly side, with senior experience, eire og I think have 8 from the senior panel you would imagine that should be telling in these final stages, I was wondering why mlr had dipped those are big losses.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 22/12/2023 12:01:49    2517632

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A very happy Christmas to everyone who posts on this board. Hopefully we will see better times when all our dreams come true.

Big shout out also to JP, Noreen, his wife and all the family.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 23/12/2023 18:41:07    2517714

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Happy Christmas to all the posters

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1594 - 23/12/2023 21:24:59    2517721

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Replying To carlowman:  "Firstly a huge thank you to JP, Noreen his wife and all the family for their very generous gift that will benefit the gaa.
It's up to the clubs it seems to decide what they want to do with the money gifted to them.
Perhaps some will buy more playing gear, upgrade their pitches with sand etc or put up spectator fencing or a new scoreboard or improve dressing rooms etc. Every club would have a list of where these monies could be spent.
It's hard to know what the clubs will decide.
I do think that the Centre of Excellence is one way that the monies could be spent - if the clubs decided on that.
What needs to be done there, 1. Carpark tarmacadam, 2. Dressing rooms 3. A stand for supporters and 4. More pitches ?
They are the options I think !
For all of these things to be done, I think could take a generation. Clubs currently are giving a yearly levy and this looks like continuing for many years to come."
Giving the JP money to the CC would be negligence of the highest order.

A poster here mentions how nice some other counties facilities are, how did all them get built? Training Centre is the ultimate visual metaphor of the lack of any real ambition inside Dr Cullen Park.

TownGael29 (Carlow) - Posts: 23 - 29/12/2023 00:24:51    2517801

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Replying To TownGael29:  "Giving the JP money to the CC would be negligence of the highest order.

A poster here mentions how nice some other counties facilities are, how did all them get built? Training Centre is the ultimate visual metaphor of the lack of any real ambition inside Dr Cullen Park."
Best thing they could do is sell the training centre land.

It's in the wrong place. In the middle of nowhere. It was a crazy idea to put it where they did.

Half the population of the county lives in the town. Increasingly, a lot of urban people don't have cars, And that trend will gather pace in the coming years.

Putting matches down there is like burying them. Let alone training.

It should be in Carlow town. Within reasonable access to public transport.

Merge Carlow Town Hurling Club and O'Hanrahan's and give them the outside pitch. So they will have two good pitches.

Put the training centre in the current Oak Park hurling grounds. There are three pitches there. One would have to be sorted with Carlow CBS too. Then offer to buy out the rugby club and there's two more pitches. So you have five.

They are broke. They'd accept the offer if they could move to a new site and clear their debts.

Give the money from the sale of Fenagh to the new O'Hanrahan's Carlow Town dual club, and allow them permanent privileged access to the new training centre fields whenever they need.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 592 - 30/12/2023 10:41:12    2517854

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