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Replying To giveitlong:  "Yes indeed, that was clear to be seen in Salthill, and Shane seemed to me to decide he was not putting up with it."
And in fairness the fact that Shane downed tools completely shows all is not right..
O Neill had an instant impact at the beginning, the last few weeks he has been pushed back and Mr Milltown back centre stage.. Hence the poor displays..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 10/03/2022 16:34:20    2404816

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Semi-Final appearance. He's had 3 years at this stage. How many more seasons does he need to learn on the job and waste the potential of the good players we have?

James Horan, by contrast, has in the same time frame reached a semi-final every year since his return to Mayo in 2019.

We reached a league final and All-Ireland final in 2018. We had a bad year in 2019 but by no means were we in decline. There was a firm expectation and belief that Joyce would build on those results and he has done the opposite."
Love the way 2019 can be discarded because it suits the current narrative.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 625 - 10/03/2022 19:12:38    2404844

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Replying To Belclare:  "And in fairness the fact that Shane downed tools completely shows all is not right..
O Neill had an instant impact at the beginning, the last few weeks he has been pushed back and Mr Milltown back centre stage.. Hence the poor displays.."
So have you inside knowledge of what's going on in the camp then?
And if you don't - you are just merely assuming that because we have conceded heavily in the last two games then obviously that must mean O'Neill has taken a back seat?
In between the Down and Cork games he has just all of a sudden been moved to the background?
Now that just makes absolutely no sense to me anyway.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1323 - 10/03/2022 20:28:11    2404850

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Replying To Belclare:  "And in fairness the fact that Shane downed tools completely shows all is not right..
O Neill had an instant impact at the beginning, the last few weeks he has been pushed back and Mr Milltown back centre stage.. Hence the poor displays.."
Unreal, one has a PHD the other a DWH.

"Disaster Waiting to Happen"

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 104 - 10/03/2022 21:09:12    2404856

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Love the way 2019 can be discarded because it suits the current narrative."
Answer me this so

Were Galway in decline in 2019 to the extent that everyone expected a period of poor results in following years, that a new manager would need 3-4 years to build a new team of competing?

Or did they hire someone with the expectation to build on the progress we had from 2015 and take it further?

Which one is it?

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 11/03/2022 12:06:09    2404900

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Answer me this so

Were Galway in decline in 2019 to the extent that everyone expected a period of poor results in following years, that a new manager would need 3-4 years to build a new team of competing?

Or did they hire someone with the expectation to build on the progress we had from 2015 and take it further?

Which one is it?"
The latter absolutely. The current management team have been poor to date. Very few people would dispute that.
But, I'm more than willing to give them this year to see how things develop. Especially with O'Neill added to the management team.
We have had a positive start to the year, but we're all well aware that the real challenges lie ahead.
Let's at least see how we perform before calling for their heads or throwing around unfounded rumours.
With the way the championship is this year, we'll know soon enough where we stand. If things don't go well, it will be time for new management. However, to be talking about that at this stage, with the business rounds of the league and the whole championship still ahead of us is ridiculous.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2423 - 11/03/2022 14:52:45    2404945

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Answer me this so

Were Galway in decline in 2019 to the extent that everyone expected a period of poor results in following years, that a new manager would need 3-4 years to build a new team of competing?

Or did they hire someone with the expectation to build on the progress we had from 2015 and take it further?

Which one is it?"
Never had an issue with Kevin Walsh. Needed to expand our game a little but in the main a very good and astute coach.

That aside 2019 vs Mayo was one of the biggest cluster ***** I've seen in a long time. Switch the goalie AGAIN. Power goes on to make mistakes to put the game to bed early (KW ruined both Power and Lavelle)

Drops Sean Andy because that's what the "footballers on the ditch" wanted only to go back on this and bring him on after 25mins (had a decent game tbf)

Started a returning McDaid in midfield and bringing on a half fit Comer (both gassed after 10mins)

And to top it off pull Farragher out of no where barely touches the ball and throws it back in KW face by having a hissy fit when taken off.

KW ability to trust his own instincts was gone and too much outside noise was influencing him. To say this game can be ignored is disingenuous.

Whether needed or not Joyce has rebuilt the squad. Panel from 19' to now is vastly different.

Leaving Limerick in 19' I felt as far away from an All Ireland as possible and the trajectory was downward. Don't feel we are near an All Ireland now but for me trajectory is pointing up.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 625 - 11/03/2022 20:20:03    2404990

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https://www.the42.ie/james-horan-2-5707743-Mar2022/
Might help in figuring out how to beat him!

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1091 - 12/03/2022 08:21:41    2405001

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Never had an issue with Kevin Walsh. Needed to expand our game a little but in the main a very good and astute coach.

That aside 2019 vs Mayo was one of the biggest cluster ***** I've seen in a long time. Switch the goalie AGAIN. Power goes on to make mistakes to put the game to bed early (KW ruined both Power and Lavelle)

Drops Sean Andy because that's what the "footballers on the ditch" wanted only to go back on this and bring him on after 25mins (had a decent game tbf)

Started a returning McDaid in midfield and bringing on a half fit Comer (both gassed after 10mins)

And to top it off pull Farragher out of no where barely touches the ball and throws it back in KW face by having a hissy fit when taken off.

KW ability to trust his own instincts was gone and too much outside noise was influencing him. To say this game can be ignored is disingenuous.

Whether needed or not Joyce has rebuilt the squad. Panel from 19' to now is vastly different.

Leaving Limerick in 19' I felt as far away from an All Ireland as possible and the trajectory was downward. Don't feel we are near an All Ireland now but for me trajectory is pointing up."
As I see it as well. 2019 coming out of Limerick was a very low point for all the reasons you mentioned. KW did very well with us but the operation had run out of road by then. Yes we have had some terrible results since but my attitude is to support the management of the day. PJ has added a lot of youth to the panel and while the jury is very much out on his managerial term assessment should be put to one side until the season is completed.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1992 - 12/03/2022 09:00:15    2405007

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Never had an issue with Kevin Walsh. Needed to expand our game a little but in the main a very good and astute coach.

That aside 2019 vs Mayo was one of the biggest cluster ***** I've seen in a long time. Switch the goalie AGAIN. Power goes on to make mistakes to put the game to bed early (KW ruined both Power and Lavelle)

Drops Sean Andy because that's what the "footballers on the ditch" wanted only to go back on this and bring him on after 25mins (had a decent game tbf)

Started a returning McDaid in midfield and bringing on a half fit Comer (both gassed after 10mins)

And to top it off pull Farragher out of no where barely touches the ball and throws it back in KW face by having a hissy fit when taken off.

KW ability to trust his own instincts was gone and too much outside noise was influencing him. To say this game can be ignored is disingenuous.

Whether needed or not Joyce has rebuilt the squad. Panel from 19' to now is vastly different.

Leaving Limerick in 19' I felt as far away from an All Ireland as possible and the trajectory was downward. Don't feel we are near an All Ireland now but for me trajectory is pointing up."
Unfair comment regarding Limerick in 2019
The fact is that Galway started that game missing the entire spine of the team from Championship 2018
No
Sean Andy
Garth Bradshaw
Tom Flynn
Ciaran Duggan
Paul Conroy
Damien Comer

Regarding the current management, the team have gone back significantly in the last two years but....
..have brought in O Neill, quicker to make game time changes and team looks fitter than for a couple of years
And we are winning matches
We are light in centre field
I would say coming out of Croker after that second half last year left me feeling the same as after Pearse stadium in 2013, both games where we were horsed out of it
Any let's support the team and push on !!

Maroonedinlongford2 (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 12/03/2022 09:22:15    2405011

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4 from 4 and we are in Meltdown… imagine what this place would be like if we'd lost a game!!!

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1725 - 12/03/2022 12:44:35    2405028

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Replying To ahsure.:  "4 from 4 and we are in Meltdown… imagine what this place would be like if we'd lost a game!!!"
True but the 3 biggest tests in the league and Mayo in the championship are the next games up so we will see better where we really are after those games.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 12/03/2022 12:57:05    2405030

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Replying To Maroonedinlongford2:  "Unfair comment regarding Limerick in 2019
The fact is that Galway started that game missing the entire spine of the team from Championship 2018
No
Sean Andy
Garth Bradshaw
Tom Flynn
Ciaran Duggan
Paul Conroy
Damien Comer

Regarding the current management, the team have gone back significantly in the last two years but....
..have brought in O Neill, quicker to make game time changes and team looks fitter than for a couple of years
And we are winning matches
We are light in centre field
I would say coming out of Croker after that second half last year left me feeling the same as after Pearse stadium in 2013, both games where we were horsed out of it
Any let's support the team and push on !!"
100% right. Galway started the game in Mayo in bad shape. Comer was injured all year. PC was a massive loss also. Sean Andy and Tom Flynn KW dropped (both came on along with Comer) so not sure why you mention them as it only reinforced my point.

You've kinda proved my point though. Excuses made for 2019 and as above legitimate ones too yet last year Galway went in at half time in great shape against Mayo and yet I felt we were already bet. Galway will win very few games against division one opposition without Sean Kelly and Shane Walsh. Sean Kelly had after going off injured and Shane Walsh was a passenger. Topped with Rob Finnerty going off in the first half to further disrupt things. Yet you don't mention these issues!! Mayo ran out easy winners in the and Joyce/management/players need to shoulder the responsibility for not been able to arrest the situation.

Still doesn't mean they didn't have excuses of their own no more than 2019......

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 625 - 12/03/2022 13:07:13    2405031

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "100% right. Galway started the game in Mayo in bad shape. Comer was injured all year. PC was a massive loss also. Sean Andy and Tom Flynn KW dropped (both came on along with Comer) so not sure why you mention them as it only reinforced my point.

You've kinda proved my point though. Excuses made for 2019 and as above legitimate ones too yet last year Galway went in at half time in great shape against Mayo and yet I felt we were already bet. Galway will win very few games against division one opposition without Sean Kelly and Shane Walsh. Sean Kelly had after going off injured and Shane Walsh was a passenger. Topped with Rob Finnerty going off in the first half to further disrupt things. Yet you don't mention these issues!! Mayo ran out easy winners in the and Joyce/management/players need to shoulder the responsibility for not been able to arrest the situation.

Still doesn't mean they didn't have excuses of their own no more than 2019......"
The major difference between 2019 and 2021 , for me, was despite all the problems in 2019 the team died with their boots on. They matched Mayo step by step physically right through the game despite the concession of the two early goals and the setback that that brought. Despite missing so many first team players Galway gave Mayo enough of it, Mayo confirming this when they were wiped out by Kerry the following week
Last year we were 5 points up at half time, conceded a penalty and the game was over. We did not knock them back on their arse once, we were not fit enough and were stuffed

Maroonedinlongford2 (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 12/03/2022 14:28:02    2405041

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Replying To Maroonedinlongford2:  "The major difference between 2019 and 2021 , for me, was despite all the problems in 2019 the team died with their boots on. They matched Mayo step by step physically right through the game despite the concession of the two early goals and the setback that that brought. Despite missing so many first team players Galway gave Mayo enough of it, Mayo confirming this when they were wiped out by Kerry the following week
Last year we were 5 points up at half time, conceded a penalty and the game was over. We did not knock them back on their arse once, we were not fit enough and were stuffed"
My memory of that game was after a terrible start including a clanger from our keeper. They never got to grips with Cooke who scored 0-04 from play and we never got to grips with Darren Coen. We brought on Comer who could barely move and the big turning point was a diabolical penalty by Liam Silke

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 12/03/2022 21:29:25    2405087

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Replying To Maroonedinlongford2:  "The major difference between 2019 and 2021 , for me, was despite all the problems in 2019 the team died with their boots on. They matched Mayo step by step physically right through the game despite the concession of the two early goals and the setback that that brought. Despite missing so many first team players Galway gave Mayo enough of it, Mayo confirming this when they were wiped out by Kerry the following week
Last year we were 5 points up at half time, conceded a penalty and the game was over. We did not knock them back on their arse once, we were not fit enough and were stuffed"
And my memory of the other game was exactly as you say. Fitness really, got completely blown away by a team who had the work done earlier in the year...and it showed

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 12/03/2022 21:31:26    2405088

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Seán Kelly injured for today, don't know why Joyce has bought into this dummy team nonsense…just name the actual 15 that's going to play.

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 375 - 13/03/2022 11:55:02    2405119

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Replying To Maroonedinlongford2:  "The major difference between 2019 and 2021 , for me, was despite all the problems in 2019 the team died with their boots on. They matched Mayo step by step physically right through the game despite the concession of the two early goals and the setback that that brought. Despite missing so many first team players Galway gave Mayo enough of it, Mayo confirming this when they were wiped out by Kerry the following week
Last year we were 5 points up at half time, conceded a penalty and the game was over. We did not knock them back on their arse once, we were not fit enough and were stuffed"
Against Mayo we stuck at it, but ultimately they kept us arms length fairly comfortably. That wasn't the only bad championship performance in 2019 though. The Connacht Final against Roscommon was one of the worst I'd seen, the 2nd half primarily. Kevin did a huge amount for us in this term as manager, but the cycle had come to an end.
We're on another journey now, so let's see how it goes this year. I hope to see a much more solid and organised performance today, than the last 2.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2423 - 13/03/2022 12:02:24    2405123

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Kickouts and restarts massive today, we can't be going to Owenbeg next week or the Hyde afterwards with no strategy. We struggled badly with restarts last week and it brought a high level of pressure onto us, it was like the 21 Connacht final all over again. The Keeper needs to be schooled on avoiding needless soloing and carrying balls into contact. We got away with it in Cork but Clare, Derry and Roscommon won't be as generous. Comer, Walsh, Heaney and Tierney need to collect Kickouts and take the work load of Conroy.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 857 - 13/03/2022 12:25:23    2405125

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Nice win for Galway. Not pretty but Clare are a gritty stubborn football team. Galway Abu.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2595 - 13/03/2022 15:39:53    2405142

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