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Replying To togoutlads:  "In the first two league games we conceded an average of just 7.5 points - in the most recent two games we've conceded avg 21 points! Almost a threefold increase. Granted the wind and tougher conditions had a part to play in the first two outings but it doesn't account for a slide like this. Our work rate seems to be down, tracking back is down, no blocks worth a damn going in. No preventing the runs at us. We're wide open recently and Clare, Derry and Ross will exploit this and ruin our promotion plans if we don't pick this up. As for Mayo, their power running and physicality will blow holes in us if we keep defending like this. This is O'Neill and Divillys domain, they need to sort this fast along with PJ and Co. We looked to have real bite in our defending against Meath and Down, we need to find that and more pronto! We're scoring but if we're going to advance then we need to tighten up massively at the back."
Nail on the head. Blocks, tracking, tracking, work rate very impressive for first 2 games very poor last two. You win nothing without it.

Probably need O'Laoi and/or Gallagher in HF line to ensure we have enough graft.

Derry game is huge because we don't want to be going into last game needing a win. That would probably disrupt training for championship as we would have to focus on Rossies.

Beat Clare and Derry and use last game and league final as warm ups for Mayo ......... just rolls off the tongue:-)

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 07/03/2022 21:15:00    2404374

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Replying To smallfrank:  "Yes, whatever way you want to paint it.
That 1 All Ireland Semi(we were bet out the gate) in 20 years is damning. Hard to understand really, we were competitive at underage over that 20 years, our club Championship was one of the strongest in Ireland. We didn't really move on though if I'm being honest. I'm writing this thinking have we even begun to move on, I'm not sure we have. Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone would expect to have it handy against us if we meet as will Mayo."
Let's put a small bit of context on that sole semi-final appearance. We did happen to play the greatest football team in history who happen to beat every other team out of the gate in semi-finals in that era.

A year later, we went down the populist route and hired someone with ZERO senior inter-county management experience and everyone expected us to be winning All-Irelands.

We haven't moved on though. We've gone backwards at an alarming rate and a few high scoring wins over Division 2 opposition shouldn't gloss over the cold reality.

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 08/03/2022 09:37:35    2404385

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Let's put a small bit of context on that sole semi-final appearance. We did happen to play the greatest football team in history who happen to beat every other team out of the gate in semi-finals in that era.

A year later, we went down the populist route and hired someone with ZERO senior inter-county management experience and everyone expected us to be winning All-Irelands.

We haven't moved on though. We've gone backwards at an alarming rate and a few high scoring wins over Division 2 opposition shouldn't gloss over the cold reality."
No one expected us to be winning all Irelands, avd AFAIK didn't Pat Gilroy have zero inter County experience before taking over Dublin and laying the ground work for the greatest team in history?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 08/03/2022 10:27:53    2404396

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Let's put a small bit of context on that sole semi-final appearance. We did happen to play the greatest football team in history who happen to beat every other team out of the gate in semi-finals in that era.

A year later, we went down the populist route and hired someone with ZERO senior inter-county management experience and everyone expected us to be winning All-Irelands.

We haven't moved on though. We've gone backwards at an alarming rate and a few high scoring wins over Division 2 opposition shouldn't gloss over the cold reality."
For complete balance, it's worth mentioning that we did have a very poor 2019 in which we went backwards, prior to hiring the current management. An awful performance against Roscommon followed by the bad defeat against Mayo in Limerick had a feeling of things coming to an end for the management team.
What you say about 2018 is correct. It was our best year by a distance in a long time.
However, while we all knew the Dubs were going to be too strong for us on the day, we could have absolutely put up a better challenge. We dominated the first half but left a lot of scores behind us and ended up going in a few points down at half-time instead of being behind. There's also the fact that it was an insipid display against Monaghan in the last Super 8 game that had us playing the Dubs instead of Tyrone.
Kevin Walsh did great work with us as a manager. He brought us on a lot and despite 2019, left us in a much better place than when he took over. When he took the job we were as low we had ever been. He deserves huge credit for bringing some respectability back to Galway football.
At the end of 2019 things were slipping and it was the right time for a new management team. The overall performance of the current management has not been good. This year, which will be a first full year of fixtures, will tell us a lot. I'll reserve any absolute judgement until then.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2422 - 08/03/2022 11:59:59    2404422

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Replying To Galway9801:  "No one expected us to be winning all Irelands, avd AFAIK didn't Pat Gilroy have zero inter County experience before taking over Dublin and laying the ground work for the greatest team in history?"
Gilroy ended the All-Ireland final famine, Dublin hadn't reached All-Ireland final for 16 years prior to there 2011 success.

The ground work would also be credited for what was done at U21 level 2010 to 2014 Jim Gavin was involved with the majority of those Dublin teams. The best batch of Dublin players came along in a short period of time and they were filtered into a senior team that had a strong base with the likes of Cluxton, Connolly and Brogan,Flynn etc and that basically allowed them to dominated or be helped along by Mayo finding different ways to lose All-Ireland finals that was there to be won.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3713 - 08/03/2022 12:12:33    2404428

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Another poster using "the full set of full fixtures" argument.

Every single other county experienced the problems the pandemic brought about. Why is it being used as an excuse here to defend someone who hasn't produced the results expected of him?

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 08/03/2022 12:16:48    2404429

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Replying To Galway9801:  "No one expected us to be winning all Irelands, avd AFAIK didn't Pat Gilroy have zero inter County experience before taking over Dublin and laying the ground work for the greatest team in history?"
Joyce wasn't hired to bring us back to Division 2 and suffer multiple hammerings against better opposition.

He took over a team one year removed from a semi-final appearance and a League final.

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 08/03/2022 12:20:56    2404431

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Replying To Galway9801:  "No one expected us to be winning all Irelands, avd AFAIK didn't Pat Gilroy have zero inter County experience before taking over Dublin and laying the ground work for the greatest team in history?"
PJ literally announced we would be winning all irelands

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 08/03/2022 12:55:00    2404443

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Another poster using "the full set of full fixtures" argument.

Every single other county experienced the problems the pandemic brought about. Why is it being used as an excuse here to defend someone who hasn't produced the results expected of him?"
It's not an argument or an excuse at all. I've already mentioned that the current management team's performance has been poor to date. Poorer than Kevin Walsh's tenure. That's based on everything we've seen so far.
My point is this year will tell us a lot more, as we will have more games to judge them on. I won't be calling for any management team to be gone until we at least see how this year pans out.
Regardless of management team, this group of players needs plenty games. We're bringing in a lot of the recent underage players and they need game time. They're getting that now and the next few weeks will see the level if competition increase.
In summary, Kevin Walsh did a very good job overall as manager. However, his reign did contain some shocking performances too and things came to a poor end in 2019.
Joyce's tenure has been poor overall so far. However, it remains to be seen how we do this year. We can't make an absolute judgement until this year is done.
Some people seem to be in one camp or another. I couldn't care less who's manager, as long as I see progression and development. I'm also willing to give a manager a fair amount of time, unless the wheels are coming off entirely, which they're certainly not at the moment.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2422 - 08/03/2022 13:03:48    2404446

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Joyce wasn't hired to bring us back to Division 2 and suffer multiple hammerings against better opposition.

He took over a team one year removed from a semi-final appearance and a League final."
Fully agree with you.
My judgement on a manager is usually based on how he reacts during a tough game. And I knew on that day in Tuam Stadium when Mayo absolutely destroyed us in the league that he hadn't a clue .
At no stage did he make significant positioning changes, he left Conor Gleeson in there and he was having an absolute nightmare with kickouts.
Since that day we have gone backwards at an alarming rate.
Relegation, two connacht defeats, multiple fall offs from players, his ignoring of the media for long periods last year and his continued support of Concannan in the role of number 2..
Now the county board don't escape my wrath, they have been an unmitigated disaster for football in this county for over 20 years.

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 08/03/2022 13:07:35    2404447

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Replying To galwayfball:  "PJ literally announced we would be winning all irelands"
As far as I remember he said the aim was to win the All-Ireland. Not that we would be winning All-Ireland's. Two very different things.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2408 - 08/03/2022 15:35:34    2404487

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we are not all ireland contenders lads.,no way are we up there with the top lads.,i.e. mayo and kerry.
but what we can hope for is that we are very compeitive.,well organised.,structured.,with a style of
football that suits the players we have with a rick solid defensive unit..
if we can do this we will be very hard to beat as we do have some excellant players..

gbay (Galway) - Posts: 275 - 08/03/2022 16:36:35    2404503

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Replying To Marooned:  "As far as I remember he said the aim was to win the All-Ireland. Not that we would be winning All-Ireland's. Two very different things."
No not really that different at all

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 08/03/2022 17:35:26    2404518

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At best Galway are top 10 team as a county in both hurling and football we are living in fantasy land 1 senior hurling all Ireland in 34 years 2 football in same time that is the reality , let's be honest both teams are miles off winning another one football played in 1 semi final in 20 years and in my opinion mayo will beat Galway easier this year than In many years I'd be surprised if it under 8 points

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1097 - 08/03/2022 18:00:12    2404523

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Replying To gbay:  "we are not all ireland contenders lads.,no way are we up there with the top lads.,i.e. mayo and kerry.
but what we can hope for is that we are very compeitive.,well organised.,structured.,with a style of
football that suits the players we have with a rick solid defensive unit..
if we can do this we will be very hard to beat as we do have some excellant players.."
Hope you mean rock solid defence rather than "rick solid" as it has been rickety enough for the last 2 games! Just wondering if John Daly is as tight a defender as many people were saying he was for the last couple of years when he was out through injury as most of the opposition attacks are coming down through the centre? I would also say that Molloy and Kelly are badly missed in defence when they are not playing.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 08/03/2022 19:56:14    2404534

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Replying To gbay:  "does anybody no is macloughlin from moycullen injured as he wasnt involved with seniors in awhile
and i didnt se his name with the u-20's.!!

also is sean fitzgerald soon back from injury.
would like to see him get a run at full back before the league is finished.,

i mthink he is a more natural full back then sean kelly and i no sean can play anywhere
and hold his own he's that good.,but i think sean playing in the half back line would suit
galway better.,and would add a serious attaching weapon going forward..

would like to see kelly.,daly and mcdaid/heaney/mchugh the half back line with silke fitzgerald glynn fb line."
Based on performances so far I'd have Kieran Molloy before Heaney, McDaid or Glynn to be honest. Definitely wouldn't be dropping him.

GalwayLurker (Galway) - Posts: 113 - 08/03/2022 21:34:10    2404546

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Listened to this yesterday. The Football POD. They focus on Galway from about 27.30 minutes. Particularly James O'Donoghue about Cian O'Neill and his coaching/training. very interesting. Great listen

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1DUmh3cBn5aDCsXwR9HwLi?si=a15e68eeb99a4446

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 09/03/2022 09:14:45    2404553

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Listened to this yesterday. The Football POD. They focus on Galway from about 27.30 minutes. Particularly James O'Donoghue about Cian O'Neill and his coaching/training. very interesting. Great listen

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1DUmh3cBn5aDCsXwR9HwLi?si=a15e68eeb99a4446"
He made an interesting comment on Galway's training over the last two years as well.

Jellybaby (Dublin) - Posts: 367 - 09/03/2022 11:24:47    2404586

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Replying To Jellybaby:  "He made an interesting comment on Galway's training over the last two years as well."
Absolutely.

What was very clear was the high regard he holds CO'N and also how the full season is planned out and training and prep is all designed to peak on certain dates. The prep that CO'N puts in to ensure players are doing individual training relative to their role etc

After listening to it I certainly was thinking more positively about our chances. No excuses this year

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 09/03/2022 12:50:29    2404604

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Absolutely.

What was very clear was the high regard he holds CO'N and also how the full season is planned out and training and prep is all designed to peak on certain dates. The prep that CO'N puts in to ensure players are doing individual training relative to their role etc

After listening to it I certainly was thinking more positively about our chances. No excuses this year"
Regardless of what some coaches say a peak can by reached just once in a year and form can't be turned on and off like a tap. In such a condensed season this years league form especially the latter stages of it will be carried into the championship so its very important that Galway finish this NFL campaign strong before taking on an established top 4 team in Mayo.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 09/03/2022 13:17:07    2404607

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