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Awh, that's a very negative attitude. The stats you mention are true, most other counties don't even come near Galway's success rate, especially the county you believe will easily blow Galway out the gate this year. I don't but into that. If Galway can up the work rate and develop that bit os steel (and I think they've the men to man up in that regard), they may go much further than you think in the football. However, I cannot envisage a good year for your hurlers. In Henry's third year, I could see Galway being very dangerous-he'll have had time by then to blood the best of those "great" minor teams and have had time to axe the perennials who are no longer up to it. It's very difficult to come in in Year 1, particularly as an outsider, and wield a knife to long established players. But it will have to be done for the betterment of Galway hurling. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2340 - 09/03/2022 13:28:21 2404611 Link 0 |
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That's a bit of an extreme take. If All-Ireland wins is the only measure of a team's standing, then Mayo would be outside the top-10, which is nonsense. In hurling over the past 15 years, Galway are a top 6 team and have been in the top 2 or 3 occasionally in that period. In football we're historically higher, but in the last 15 years we've flitted around 6 to 12, usually at the lower end. At the moment I'd say we're still in that bracket, but improvement on that is very achievable. While a county like Galway could be miles off in a given year, we have the resources to makes strides very quickly if the right work is being done. We have a good record underage and plenty talent coming through most years. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2422 - 09/03/2022 14:49:03 2404634 Link 0 |
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The bookie they say is usually not too far out in assessing the merits of teams. At the moment he has Galway in as the 6th most likely winner of SAM. Kerry, Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, Galway, Armagh, Monaghan, Derry, and Kildare are the top 10. I would have Galway around 7th and Roscommon in the top 10 rather than Monaghan. We have a fair team when our best 15 start as v Cork 2 weeks ago, fair as in likely to get back to division 1 and just about remain there next year. We have very little top quality form the subs bench and the loss of Mulkerrin is massive for us. It is vary hard to see, at this stage, where on the field we would have the beating of Mayo in 5 or 6 weeks time. It was however, hard to see where Tyrone would beat them, but they did, by keeping ball away from key men like Ruane. We are their equal in terms of a scoring threat or maybe slightly ahead, but so far have not managed to get near enough possession, clean or dirty, around the middle, and our transition from defense to attack when we do win a turnover is far to ponderous and labored. First we must turn up in much better shape next Sunday because Clare will be a bigger threat than Offaly. They have a strong midfield and play a very direct kicking game. giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1290 - 09/03/2022 16:08:10 2404646 Link 0 |
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It's undoubted how good O Neill is. What is missed in the interview is before O Neills accident he actually was a brilliant basketball player as well and positional training sessions were and still are the best I've ever witnessed. His background alone in UL puts him head and shoulder above Joyce, and the rest. The problem is hopefully our manager is letting Cian run the show that he can do as described by James o Donoghue. I have my doubts although Cian would not put up with *****.. Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 09/03/2022 16:15:22 2404648 Link 0 |
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Agreed. And from being at the matches it is striking how involved CO'N is. Compared to JD, who i have never seen shouting instructions .....not once.
Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 09/03/2022 16:35:05 2404652 Link 0 |
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I would agree but the problem is that Galway have too many "nice footballers" rather than hard men / grafters particularly in defence. More enforcers are needed to stop the opposition forwards cutting through like a hot knife through butter. More players like Kieran "Gizzy" McGrath in his prime a few years ago who may not have been the best technical footballer or the most stylish but was a teak-tough tight defender (a bit of a tongue twister there) and to a lesser extent Eoghan Kerin was also but he fouled too often giving away soft scores! Mayo had the likes of Boyle and Vaughan who were of a similar ilk a few years ago as was Philly McMahon of Dublin so Galway need more of that type of player if they want to reach the very top level.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/03/2022 16:48:09 2404655 Link 0 |
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The problem is the rules have changed so there is no place any more in gaelic football for those teak tough close-marking backs such as the famous Mick Lyons of Meath or the players you name such as Gizzy McGrath and Eoghan Kerin. The likes of these are too expensive to the team due to persistent fouling near the goal. What backs have to do now is work within the rules by seeking to stop or dispossess the opposition without giving away needless frees. This is easier said than done. The key seems to be to use swarm defensive tactics to surround the forward in possession to prevent him from linking up with his team mates and thereby dispossess him or win a free out for over-carrying. In one-to-situations the back is at a major disadvantage against a fast skillful forward unless he has good defensive backup.
FatLadySinging (Galway) - Posts: 91 - 09/03/2022 17:45:16 2404666 Link 1 |
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So far in this. League can't see the impact of cian o Neill if as a defense coach ,unless Galway find a goalie who can kick the ball out both short and long and comfortable when in possession they are going nowhere fast , the next 3 games will be a test especially Derry and Ross if Galway play like last Sunday they get hammered by both ,, Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1097 - 09/03/2022 17:51:13 2404669 Link 0 |
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John Divilly would be coach involved on the defensive side of things with Galway. Cork and Offaly was always going to beaten by Galway so I'd say a more expensive game was played against them and a more focused defensive display will be used against Derry. Roscommon game might not overly matter as if Galway win the next two games promotion will be secured with a game to spare
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3713 - 09/03/2022 18:52:31 2404682 Link 0 |
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O Neill had a full impact at the start but not so much in the last two games.. Remember lads the politics involved. Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 09/03/2022 19:36:58 2404689 Link 1 |
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OMG one game at a time. Clare will be a handful, Derry away is another story
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1758 - 09/03/2022 21:22:29 2404701 Link 0 |
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It's why the likes of Gallagher has been a good find, loafs of lads that can play. Attitude and work rate are the key and he seems to have those.
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 544 - 09/03/2022 21:38:27 2404702 Link 0 |
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Saw Sean Fitzgerald at the game last Sunday. Is be far off a return. Looked promising in fbd. Lean tough and athletic. Just what we need in defence. Haven't seen enough to know if he is a tight defender or not but certainly looked promising Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 09/03/2022 22:05:04 2404705 Link 0 |
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So lads, I guess the question is what does Joyce have to do in 2022 in League & Championship to keep the management post? ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1720 - 10/03/2022 10:51:40 2404732 Link 0 |
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Promotion in the league and reach the last 8 in the championship.
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 10/03/2022 11:09:06 2404738 Link 0 |
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Like Derry v Clare I'd expect them to be a handful for the first half and Galway to win by a bit to spare. Derry the following weekend the bigger test but knowing promotion will be secured with a win should get Galway over the line, if they don't what chance against Mayo weeks later? Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3713 - 10/03/2022 11:13:59 2404740 Link 0 |
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Semi-Final appearance. He's had 3 years at this stage. How many more seasons does he need to learn on the job and waste the potential of the good players we have? James Horan, by contrast, has in the same time frame reached a semi-final every year since his return to Mayo in 2019. We reached a league final and All-Ireland final in 2018. We had a bad year in 2019 but by no means were we in decline. There was a firm expectation and belief that Joyce would build on those results and he has done the opposite. FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 431 - 10/03/2022 12:42:17 2404761 Link 0 |
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Ah here, can we stop with the insinuations and speculation. There was another poster a few weeks ago speculating whether Joyce even talks to O'Neill. Debate away on known issues, performance, tactics or lack thereof, players who we think should be picked etc., but this kind of stuff is nonsense. Unless you're in the backroom team, you don't know what the dynamic is. If you are in the backroom team, you shouldn't be posting about it on a GAA internet forum. ;) O'Neill is a very experienced coach and manager. If he felt his input wasn't being given proper consideration, he wouldn't be there. I'm very glad that he's been added to the management team. He has a huge amount to offer. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2422 - 10/03/2022 12:45:19 2404762 Link 4 |
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Club League starting at the weekend. Good to see this starting up .Not sure if the games will tell is much . Three favourites for championship ( winners last 3 years) have 18+ players with the county senior set up between them. I assume clubs also hit by loss of county u20s? Mountbellew in addition will be hampered by suspensions. Any reports of teams moving well? anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 10/03/2022 13:02:41 2404767 Link 0 |
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Yes indeed, that was clear to be seen in Salthill, and Shane seemed to me to decide he was not putting up with it.
giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1290 - 10/03/2022 15:43:15 2404807 Link 0 |