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1 Dublin Rightly deserve the No. 1 spot self-explanatory.
2. Mayo Until this season is over Mayo rightly deserve the No 2 spot.

3. Kerry Just about deserve the No. 3 spot.
4. Monaghan. (For the moment)
5. Galway. A couple of points better than Kildare..
6. Kildare, beat an excellent Westmeath side that never gave up even after conceding 2 goals, 0-06 down fought back to within 0-02, possibly the 2nd or 3rd best team in leinster going into that game.
7. Tyrone. Beat a Donegal side that wasn't firing on all cylinders, missed a penalty by their talisman who was later sent off, they rallied well towards the end but their luck ran out,
8. Cork ??.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2442 - 19/07/2021 09:36:13    2361513

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Replying To supersub15:  "1 Dublin Rightly deserve the No. 1 spot self-explanatory.
2. Mayo Until this season is over Mayo rightly deserve the No 2 spot.

3. Kerry Just about deserve the No. 3 spot.
4. Monaghan. (For the moment)
5. Galway. A couple of points better than Kildare..
6. Kildare, beat an excellent Westmeath side that never gave up even after conceding 2 goals, 0-06 down fought back to within 0-02, possibly the 2nd or 3rd best team in leinster going into that game.
7. Tyrone. Beat a Donegal side that wasn't firing on all cylinders, missed a penalty by their talisman who was later sent off, they rallied well towards the end but their luck ran out,
8. Cork ??."
This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 766 - 19/07/2021 13:25:59    2361690

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Dublin are still top of the pops for another month or so until we are beaten.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13617 - 19/07/2021 13:54:01    2361707

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As a card-carrying pedant, I have to point out that if you award a joint position to 2 teams, the team ranked beneath those 2 teams hold the position of (Number of teams ranked above them +1). So if you rank Dublin and Kerry as joint first, with Mayo next, followed by Tyrone, the rankings will be:

1= Dublin, Kerry
3 Mayo
4 Tyrone

etc.

It's the same in the Olympics, if they award joint gold for a dead heat they don't award a silver medal to the next finisher but go straight to bronze.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1460 - 19/07/2021 15:08:36    2361735

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Replying To Wally:  "This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side."
Some interesting tuning of selections there lol.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1015 - 19/07/2021 15:14:27    2361740

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Replying To Wally:  "This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side."
Don't think Donegal should be as low as 9th, Murphy's indiscipline and shockingly poor penalty cost them the game yesterday.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 19/07/2021 15:20:03    2361744

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Replying To Wally:  "This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side."
1 Dublin Rightly deserve the No. 1 spot self-explanatory.

2. Mayo. Undisputed over the past 5 or 6 years at least the 2nd best team in the country, end of, - - - - -

3. Kerry Just about deserve the No. 3 spot.
4. Monaghan. (For the moment)
5. Galway. A couple of points better than Kildare..
6. Kildare, beat an excellent Westmeath side that never gave up even after conceding 2 goals, - 0-06 down fought back to within 0-02, possibly the 2nd or 3rd best team in leinster going into that game.
7. Tyrone. Beat a Donegal side that wasn't firing on all cylinders, missed a penalty by their talisman who was later sent off, they rallied well towards the end but their luck ran out,
8. Cork ??.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2369 - 19/07/2021 09:36:13 2361513

Don't worry mo cara, my team assessment is based on current championship performance as near as possible, at the same time trying as near as dammit to avoid league comparisons, placings, and results, call it game on game process of elimination as in straight knock out if you get my drift. Try to remember its an All Ireland football Championship. (League not included.)
Sorry for the upset.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2442 - 19/07/2021 15:59:54    2361770

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Replying To Wally:  "This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side."
Wally in your rush to rant you forgot to check your facts.

Monaghan are still a division 1 side who sent your 4th ranked team down to division 2. Might want to have a think again about your rankings before hammering someone else about theirs. And they did that against the tragic back drop of their U20 captain losing his life over the weekend in such a tragic accident

You've ranked Armagh ahead of Donegal despite Donegal losing to a higher ranked opponent in Tyrone, and having reached the league semi finals.

Your fourth ranked team were relegated to Division 2 for next year and took a hammering from your second ranked team too, and barely got over the line against a team outside your top 10....

As i've said for a while

Its

1. Dublin



2. Kerry


3 -6. Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone and Monaghan - in no set orderd


7 - 13. Armagh, Galway, Kildare, Meath, Roscommon, Cork, Clare - in no set orderd


Everyone else

Monaghan to me have been the team of the year thus far. They've cemented and embellished their place as a top 6 side despite having the third lowest population in the country . Can they take off Tyrone in the Ulster final, will say a lot about them as a team


Yeah on reflection i think Wally is in fact the best username you could've assigned yourself.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1274 - 19/07/2021 16:18:05    2361785

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How anyone can have Mayo as the second best team in the country THIS YEAR is simply beyond me.

Who have they played and beaten? Stop lads.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3 - the rest.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1259 - 19/07/2021 16:23:07    2361789

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Replying To supersub15:  "1 Dublin Rightly deserve the No. 1 spot self-explanatory.

2. Mayo. Undisputed over the past 5 or 6 years at least the 2nd best team in the country, end of, - - - - -

3. Kerry Just about deserve the No. 3 spot.
4. Monaghan. (For the moment)
5. Galway. A couple of points better than Kildare..
6. Kildare, beat an excellent Westmeath side that never gave up even after conceding 2 goals, - 0-06 down fought back to within 0-02, possibly the 2nd or 3rd best team in leinster going into that game.
7. Tyrone. Beat a Donegal side that wasn't firing on all cylinders, missed a penalty by their talisman who was later sent off, they rallied well towards the end but their luck ran out,
8. Cork ??.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2369 - 19/07/2021 09:36:13 2361513

Don't worry mo cara, my team assessment is based on current championship performance as near as possible, at the same time trying as near as dammit to avoid league comparisons, placings, and results, call it game on game process of elimination as in straight knock out if you get my drift. Try to remember its an All Ireland football Championship. (League not included.)
Sorry for the upset."
Sorry but your selection still makes no sense.

The thread is titled 2021 Rankings so far. Therefore places should be based on the 2021 season. What Mayo have done over the past 6-7 years does not come into it.

As per your suggestion, we will base this on championship only.

- Mayo have so far only played one team, which was Leitrim, who are possibly the worst team in the country. Yet you have ranked them 2nd?

- Kerry are 3rd yet they have only beaten Tipperary (a division 4 side)

- Kildare are ranked above Tyrone but they have so far scrapped past Offaly and Westmeath yet Tyrone have eased past Cavan and beat Donegal?

- Monaghan are 4th (3 places above Tyrone) yet they came through the easier side of the Ulster Championship and meet Tyrone in the Ulster Final?

I think my selection is much better and I am also better looking than you.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 766 - 19/07/2021 16:41:23    2361802

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Replying To brian:  "Wally in your rush to rant you forgot to check your facts.

Monaghan are still a division 1 side who sent your 4th ranked team down to division 2. Might want to have a think again about your rankings before hammering someone else about theirs. And they did that against the tragic back drop of their U20 captain losing his life over the weekend in such a tragic accident

You've ranked Armagh ahead of Donegal despite Donegal losing to a higher ranked opponent in Tyrone, and having reached the league semi finals.

Your fourth ranked team were relegated to Division 2 for next year and took a hammering from your second ranked team too, and barely got over the line against a team outside your top 10....

As i've said for a while

Its

1. Dublin



2. Kerry


3 -6. Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone and Monaghan - in no set orderd


7 - 13. Armagh, Galway, Kildare, Meath, Roscommon, Cork, Clare - in no set orderd


Everyone else

Monaghan to me have been the team of the year thus far. They've cemented and embellished their place as a top 6 side despite having the third lowest population in the country . Can they take off Tyrone in the Ulster final, will say a lot about them as a team


Yeah on reflection i think Wally is in fact the best username you could've assigned yourself."
Monaghan to me have been the team of the year thus far

The fact they broke the rules and trained when they shouldn't have gave them a good head start on most. For that reason I hope Tyrone smash them.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 744 - 19/07/2021 16:55:43    2361816

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Replying To Wally:  "This is hilarious.

So Tyrone (who played in division 1 this year and retained their division 1 status) beat Donegal who are also a division 1 side in an Ulster semi final but are ranked as 7th in the country. Just above Cork lol!

Kildare who played are only coming out of division 2 and beat a team that was just demoted to division 3 are ranked 6th?

Better yet. Monaghan are ranked as 4th even though they are currently in the exact same position as Tyrone but came through the softer side of the draw and were recently demoted to Division 2!

Here is an accurate reflection of were things sit.

1. Dublin - obvious reasons
2. Kerry - almost as obvious
3. Tyrone - Div 1 side with pedigree and a lot of quality players to come back in. Made it to Ulster final on hard side of draw.
4. Galway - Div 1 side and Connaght finalists
5. Mayo - Placed as 5th due to the fact they played div 2 football this year and are without their main scorer and captain for the championship.
6. Monaghan - Div 2 side and Ulster Finalists
7. Kildare - Leinster Finalists but don't really stand a chance in the final. Regained promotion to div 1 though.
8. Armagh - Very unlucky not to make the Ulster Final but did retain their div 1 status.
9. Donegal - Division 1 side and could have made the Ulster Final.
10. Meath - Gave Dublin a good scare but are still a div 2 side."
Monaghan a division 2 side?
You sure about that?

farney_exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 65 - 19/07/2021 16:56:07    2361817

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Don't think Donegal should be as low as 9th, Murphy's indiscipline and shockingly poor penalty cost them the game yesterday."
That's neighbourly love right there in that selection!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1015 - 19/07/2021 17:28:20    2361832

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1. Dublin(obvious)

2.Kerry (mayo have injuries and no team in ulster is close)

3. Mayo( same as kerry)

4. Monaghan

5. Galway

6. Tyrone

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 44 - 19/07/2021 17:34:51    2361835

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Replying To Wally:  "Sorry but your selection still makes no sense.

The thread is titled 2021 Rankings so far. Therefore places should be based on the 2021 season. What Mayo have done over the past 6-7 years does not come into it.

As per your suggestion, we will base this on championship only.

- Mayo have so far only played one team, which was Leitrim, who are possibly the worst team in the country. Yet you have ranked them 2nd?

- Kerry are 3rd yet they have only beaten Tipperary (a division 4 side)

- Kildare are ranked above Tyrone but they have so far scrapped past Offaly and Westmeath yet Tyrone have eased past Cavan and beat Donegal?

- Monaghan are 4th (3 places above Tyrone) yet they came through the easier side of the Ulster Championship and meet Tyrone in the Ulster Final?

I think my selection is much better and I am also better looking than you."
I'm sorry again Wally (Tyrone) you're not better looking than I am, even your friend essmac (Tyrone) said Some of your friends are women, I suppose, he obviously meant "All" of my friends are women, except JC.
In the mean time Mayo stays at # 2, however should Galway be victorious next weekend I will adjust the rankings accordingly, until then - no change.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2442 - 19/07/2021 17:58:53    2361841

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Monaghan to me have been the team of the year thus far

The fact they broke the rules and trained when they shouldn't have gave them a good head start on most. For that reason I hope Tyrone smash them."
U a bit sore about something lad did a monaghan man steal your women or something

Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 19/07/2021 18:05:06    2361847

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Replying To ahsure.:  "How anyone can have Mayo as the second best team in the country THIS YEAR is simply beyond me.

Who have they played and beaten? Stop lads.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3 - the rest."
Dublin have been #1 coming into 2021 (Actually / factually.)
Mayo have been #2 coming into 2021 (Statistically)

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2442 - 19/07/2021 18:06:10    2361849

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Wally must have fell asleep on the day of the Division 1 relegation playoffs and only woke up at the weekend

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 906 - 19/07/2021 18:15:42    2361851

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This year sofar ....
1 Kerry. Champions in the making.
2. Dublin. Slight decline under dessie Farrell so far. Big 18 months for him as their coach.
3. Tyrone. Still a distance off the first 2 but improving.
4. Mayo. Still to be properly road tested this year but making the right shapes.
5. Donegal. Bonner has run our if Ideas and has run out of road. This team needs a change.
6. Monaghan. Improving fast but porous at the back.
Not much between 3 and 6.

The rest are only Tailteann Cup team. No consistency not improving and all playing negative muck.

Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 168 - 19/07/2021 18:35:42    2361865

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After Yesterday Surely Limerick are 1 and Tipp 2 as both of their good halves would put away anyone else in the championship judging by what we have seen so far

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1232 - 19/07/2021 20:53:20    2361925

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