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Oh you bitter lemon -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 01/06/2020 23:08:04 2279688 Link 1 |
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Took you 5 days to come up with that nonsense Jesus wept -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 01/06/2020 23:10:49 2279689 Link 1 |
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True, sure Wicklow haven't won an All Ireland since Micko left either. Left us in a right mess :)
LSDEindhoven (Wicklow) - Posts: 69 - 01/06/2020 23:36:44 2279691 Link 1 |
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Micko's managerial career didn't finish with Kerry . He managed Kildare twice after Kerry. He then went Laois . Subsequent to Laois he went to Wicklow. Kildare have won two Leinster titles since 1956 . Micko managed them to both of those titles . They have reached one All Ireland final since 1935. Micko managed them to that final. Laois have won one Leinster title since 1946 . Micko managed them to that title . Wicklow have only ever reached the final round of the All Ireland qualifiers once in their history . Micko was their manager when they reached that stage . When Kerry reached the All Ireland final under Micko in 1975 Dublin were hot favourites . Kerry won. Micko over the course of his managerial career has shown an ability to manage teams to win against the odds . He did it in the early days with Kerry before he moulded then in to one of the two most successful teams in football history. He led Kildare against the odds to what are still their two greatest successes since 1935. He led Laois against the odds to what is still their greatest triumph since 1946. He led Wicklow against the odds to possibly the greatest championship run in their history. Jim Gavin managed Dublin in 45 championship matches . Never once in any of those 45 matches did Jim Gavin have to manage a team that were in any way markedly inferior to their opponents . Never once in his career has he managed a team that had to win a match against the odds . I'm not saying he couldn't do it . But he has never had to do it in so much as even one championship match much less a championship campaign. Don't get me wrong . Jim Gavin has done a magnificent job with Dublin and deserves to be considered as one of the great football managers . I love what he did with Dublin and more importantly I love how he did it . All of the great managers of modern times have triumphEd against the odds . Cody did it last season with Kilkenny against Limerick. John O Mahony did it with Mayo, Leitrim and Galway . Micky Harte, Joe Kernan and Sean Boylan have all done it . There is a massive gap in Jim Gavin's list of achievements. To fill that gap he has to lead a team to triumph against the odds . That is why in my opinion Micko is ahead of Jim Gavin and why others I have listed deserve to be considered as being at Jim Gavin's level if not indeed above him .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/06/2020 00:16:19 2279693 Link 5 |
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Much in the same way that KK were castigated for 'only concentrating on one sport' Dublin and Gavin will have the begrudgers and in time they may get the credit they deserve. For me Gavin built on a successful foundation and kept the ship steady, no mean feat but it's hard then to compare to those that took teams from nowhere, Boylan, Harte, McGuiness. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 02/06/2020 07:09:43 2279696 Link 0 |
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Yerra I wouldn't be hanging around here 24/7 looking at what gets posted, it would give you a headache reading the Dubs on here :D
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 02/06/2020 09:48:00 2279701 Link 4 |
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Yerra it brings a smile to my face reading the whinging and nasty bitterness about Dublin the Kerry "few" on here keep dragging up -:) superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/06/2020 13:21:11 2279730 Link 1 |
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Nasty bitterness? The hermit is just giving posters the facts, ye don't like to hear them I know but sure that's the way it goes I guess.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/06/2020 14:14:09 2279733 Link 1 |
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A Lion doesn't concern himself with the opinion of the sheep. ;)
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/06/2020 14:56:34 2279734 Link 4 |
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Haha quoting game of thrones eh! priceless :-) but sure you have plenty of time to be catching up on the old Netflix.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/06/2020 15:37:07 2279736 Link 1 |
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Game of Thrones isn't on Netflix KingdomBoy. It's on Sky.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/06/2020 16:34:35 2279741 Link 3 |
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Kerry supporters react, to getting smashed and surrendering Dublin the 5 in a row. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/06/2020 17:16:53 2279744 Link 4 |
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Fair enough greengrass, I didn't know that.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/06/2020 17:33:34 2279746 Link 3 |
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And nobility certainly don't care for the thoughts of lowly new money, they are inevitably so utterly crass and tacky :D
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 02/06/2020 17:38:25 2279748 Link 4 |
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Facts ? The facts are your lot couldnt stop the 5 in a row , ye dont like hearing that hence all the whinging and nasty bitterness i guess -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 03/06/2020 00:02:15 2279773 Link 1 |
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Nobility, not according to Paudí.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 03/06/2020 08:15:32 2279778 Link 3 |
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Oh I love how Kerry are hurting .....makes the success of this Dublin team all the sweater. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/06/2020 08:35:25 2279780 Link 4 |
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Oh yes the "real" factors; how silly of me to think being funded 20 times more than the next county and supporting a near professional set-up could in anyway have a bearing ;) Thankfully the reality has sunk in for most these past two years. I never remember any other county GAA setup being investigated by Prime Time. Ah lads ye are some crowd, the kind that would do a lap of honour after beating a ten year old in a sprint. Is there anything as distasteful as the nouvea riche - The Buys in Blu€ indeed :D TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 03/06/2020 09:33:22 2279784 Link 3 |