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Enjoyable game, lots of complaining about refs here but Alan Kelly did a great job on Saturday. Linesman did get the 65 call wrong, I would be for VAR at this level. Of course Limerick benefited from 9 step goal in final last year so what goes around comes around.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1728 - 29/07/2019 12:48:17    2218142

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Replying To Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15496 - 29/07/2019 12:48:25    2218143

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?"
He hadn't thought of that.Kilkenny are in the Final having lost two games and drawn one game.Galway were out after losing one game and drawing one game.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2376 - 29/07/2019 13:11:42    2218156

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Replying To Canuck:  "That is the problem. Decisions should not level out but be called on the rules and the last player to touch the ball out of play dictates the next play. If one team is penalized 20 times and the other once so be it if those call were correct. How Limerick played does not o.k. an incorrect call that deprived them a chance to level up the game."
it has been said here many times that the linesman got the call wrong,the wrong call was that it was KK line ball,if Limerick had equalized and won in extra time how many posters would be on here saying it was an injustice to KK,also Tj had a free given against him for throw ball which was a good handpass,Limerick got a point from the free,is that incident not every bit as important as the line ball?

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 538 - 29/07/2019 13:36:08    2218173

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Replying To Hitnhurl:  "Great contribution when you don't have an argument ......or don't agree what's your default ? School yard humour fair play pal NEXT"
Ah lad, you have Cork number 3 in the country, you must be on something quare.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 29/07/2019 13:50:22    2218188

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Who said anything about "football" counties? You're the one who brought that up.

Fact is, you would not be on here whinging about a Kilkenny 65 not being given. You know it and I know it."
For a start I'm not "whinging" as you so elegantly put it. Secondly I would feel equally aggrieved about this if it were Kilkenny or any other county as I have previously stated. Whether you want to believe it or not the rest of the country isn't anti Kilkenny.
Its about thinking outside the box and calling things for what they are.
Let's all be adult here.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2263 - 29/07/2019 13:57:40    2218198

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Replying To Bon:  "For a start I'm not "whinging" as you so elegantly put it. Secondly I would feel equally aggrieved about this if it were Kilkenny or any other county as I have previously stated. Whether you want to believe it or not the rest of the country isn't anti Kilkenny.
Its about thinking outside the box and calling things for what they are.
Let's all be adult here."
You are correct. When you post what you see (opinion) wrong accused of being anti that county. I get it on here all the time about Kilkenny when in fact lived half my life there and support them as my second favourite team. Calling things for what they are is a good way to put it whether its your team or any other team.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3025 - 29/07/2019 14:13:00    2218211

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Replying To endgame:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?"
He hadn't thought of that.Kilkenny are in the Final having lost two games and drawn one game.Galway were out after losing one game and drawing one game."]KK had the same stats as Galway. Won 2, lost 1 and drew 1. The second loss was in Leinster final. Can really compare that to Galway only losing 1.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 29/07/2019 14:19:36    2218219

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Replying To Faithfull:  "
Replying To endgame:  "[quote=Viking66:  "[quote=Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?"
He hadn't thought of that.Kilkenny are in the Final having lost two games and drawn one game.Galway were out after losing one game and drawing one game."]KK had the same stats as Galway. Won 2, lost 1 and drew 1. The second loss was in Leinster final. Can really compare that to Galway only losing 1."]Well done to Kilkenny.

A long day today at work and the Munster League cannot come around fast enough.

Hats off to Cody. What a man.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 29/07/2019 16:32:16    2218314

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Replying To endgame:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?"
He hadn't thought of that.Kilkenny are in the Final having lost two games and drawn one game.Galway were out after losing one game and drawing one game."]You do realise that Kilkenny qualified for the Leinster final (which was their second defeat), whereas Galway finished fourth in Leinster and were therefore eliminated from the championship?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 29/07/2019 17:15:39    2218343

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You win nothing with no full back line and for that reason this is already a forgone conclusion."
Wrong again!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2550 - 29/07/2019 18:34:29    2218379

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "don't mind him he was at that craic earlier in the year ........he is the one with the chip on he's shoulder, with limerick."
Where are the All Ireland Champions now!! How did you like Saturday!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2550 - 29/07/2019 18:37:56    2218382

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Replying To katser:  "Where are the All Ireland Champions now!! How did you like Saturday!!"
you are a clown

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1728 - 29/07/2019 19:16:29    2218397

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Replying To slayer:  "
Replying To Faithfull:  "[quote=endgame:  "[quote=Viking66:  "[quote=Faithfull:  "Team P W D L +/- Pts.
Tipperary 7 6 0 1 44 12
Kilkenny 7 4 1 2 22 9
Wexford 6 2 3 1 16 7
Limerick 6 3 0 3 38 6
Cork 6 3 0 3 25 6
Dublin 5 2 1 2 9 5
Galway 4 2 1 1 3 5
Clare 4 2 0 2 -25 4
Carlow 4 0 0 4 -47 0
Waterford 4 0 0 4 -52 0

There's the stats (facts) from the championship. Top two teams in the final!"
They are top because they played more games?"
He hadn't thought of that.Kilkenny are in the Final having lost two games and drawn one game.Galway were out after losing one game and drawing one game."]KK had the same stats as Galway. Won 2, lost 1 and drew 1. The second loss was in Leinster final. Can really compare that to Galway only losing 1."]Well done to Kilkenny.

A long day today at work and the Munster League cannot come around fast enough.

Hats off to Cody. What a man."]Limerick have far more to look forward to than the Munster League.A talented young team who will learn a lot from the bitter pill of last Saturday's one point defeat.Don't think though that John Kiely is the man to bring that team forward .Limerick are a better team than Kilkenny at the moment and they shouldn't have lost that match.Credit to Cody of course .Swap Managers last Saturday and Limerick would be preparing for an All-Ireland Final.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2376 - 29/07/2019 19:40:03    2218406

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Enjoyable game, lots of complaining about refs here but Alan Kelly did a great job on Saturday. Linesman did get the 65 call wrong, I would be for VAR at this level. Of course Limerick benefited from 9 step goal in final last year so what goes around comes around."
9 step goal? Will you let it go and get over it, fool.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2550 - 29/07/2019 19:46:27    2218413

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Replying To katser:  "9 step goal? Will you let it go and get over it, fool."
Katser. Now your talking sense.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 29/07/2019 19:57:51    2218422

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Replying To katser:  "Where are the All Ireland Champions now!! How did you like Saturday!!"
Where are Galway. A fine team and Katser I do mean that, and they only beat Carlow by six points. At least we won our provincial championship and League and deservedly got to the last four. Never any disgrace in been beaten at the death by KK. No real complaints nor should your team have them. You have a fine panel, many fine young minors and better years ahead if the that great potential is properly harnessed. Look ahead it is now time to wish Tipp and Kilkenny well in this years final and for both our counties to look forward with renewed hope and give up looking back in anger. The best things in life are still ahead of us

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 29/07/2019 20:12:03    2218433

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Replying To katser:  "9 step goal? Will you let it go and get over it, fool."
Exactly.

4 steps is a plain stupid rule in hurling. In a game of pace you can hardly lift your hurl to swing in 4 steps at any speed with players on you.

If that rule was ever enforced to the letter of the law add 40 frees to a game and see what stop start nonsense you have.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 29/07/2019 20:16:00    2218438

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Replying To KK4Life:  "The ref signaled for Byrnes to move the free back. The linesman merely directed him where to return to. He still took it 5 yards too far forward. The Limerick player was being treated behind the 65 yard line and he took the free from in front. He even placed the ball for the free while the player was being treated. This happened perfectly in line with me so had a great view of it.

Incidents happen throughout matches that official don't pick up on, some result in scores, some don't. For example Hugh Lawlor and Gillane were running for a ball under the Cusack Stand in the second half. Whilst running, Gillane threw Lawlor's hurl back over his shoulder. Fortunately for Kilkenny, the ball ran out over the sideline but if it hadn't, it could have been very costly.

How much technology do we want in the game. The excitement of the games is helped by the speed it is played at. Having technology to check too many things would take the intensity out of games while decisions are reviewed. Now, quite possibly, I would have a different opinion if the shoe was on the other foot but I am just wary of it. The Luimerick penalty would have been reviewed and that might have gone either way, both men were fouling. Lawlor put his right arm, which he holds his hurl with around Gillane. Gillane had his hurl. Different frees would get reviewed and the match would lose any flow.


I acknowledge that it should have been a 65 but if that incident occurred 5 minutes in, it would probably never have been highlighted. We have all had the benefit of TV replays to determine that it was a 65. I didn't notice the deflection in real time. None of us had the view that the officials had. Just looked at it again there. I think the linesman was actually in a bad position. He was flat in line with Buckley. From his position, so flat, i'm not sure he could see a deviation in the ball direction , whereas if he was at an angle he would see it better. It doesn't make the decision correct but in real time from his position. The umpire did what all umpires do and stood beside his friend at the other side of the goal. If he was positioned on his side, he would have seen it."
God you are myopic. Gilland was fouled on several occasions while legitmately trying to run out to an incoming ball and his opponent was not penalised.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 29/07/2019 20:18:39    2218440

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Replying To katser:  "9 step goal? Will you let it go and get over it, fool."
Katser there was a 9 step goal by Limerick last year that is why a VAR is good, I have to agree with Paddy there

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 29/07/2019 20:19:48    2218442

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