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Replying To Viking66:  "Of the players we haven't seen start yet in the League Mogie, Dee, Rory, O'Hanlon, Oisin Foley, Dunbar, Dooley, Devitt, Dwyer and Jippo would likely be starting if fully fit. Mac could also depending on his form and the set up of the team. Not sure if they will all be fully fit though."
I really don't think so this year. In the backs, Murphy and Foley if they continue to perform will rightly hold their spots for the Dublin game. With the 2 x Recks and Ryan nailed on if fit that only leaves one spot up for grabs possibly. Both Gorey lads, Donohue aswell in the mix for it. I think Devitt, who has always been too loose for me at corner back, and MoH have it all to do to get back in.

We aren't as strong with options in midfield and up front. But the likes of Casey if he keeps performing should hold his spot too. Chin, Kevin Foley on current form and Rory are certs to start so there aren't many lads going to walk back into the team this year. The likes of Dunbar, Dwyer and Oisin Foley have never performed consistently enough to be definite starters for me. This competition for places is long overdue.

* A heavy defeat again to Clare on Sunday might throw all the above up in a heap!

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 424 - 21/02/2024 10:17:30    2527332

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Replying To Timbertony:  "I really don't think so this year. In the backs, Murphy and Foley if they continue to perform will rightly hold their spots for the Dublin game. With the 2 x Recks and Ryan nailed on if fit that only leaves one spot up for grabs possibly. Both Gorey lads, Donohue aswell in the mix for it. I think Devitt, who has always been too loose for me at corner back, and MoH have it all to do to get back in.

We aren't as strong with options in midfield and up front. But the likes of Casey if he keeps performing should hold his spot too. Chin, Kevin Foley on current form and Rory are certs to start so there aren't many lads going to walk back into the team this year. The likes of Dunbar, Dwyer and Oisin Foley have never performed consistently enough to be definite starters for me. This competition for places is long overdue.

* A heavy defeat again to Clare on Sunday might throw all the above up in a heap!"
Really looking forward to the game but a little apprehensive to be honest.

Clare inflicted serious pain last year, but we were a total shambles so shouldn't play out the same way this year.

I am slightly concerned about size though.

Clare will know how to exploit our aggression for soft frees so we have to be far more disciplined.

Ultimately we don't know what our team will look like come championship but the lads who are getting a chance now are going well and improving all the time which should be applauded.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3703 - 21/02/2024 12:15:54    2527352

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Who is Dooley and patsy viking?

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1148 - 21/02/2024 12:46:33    2527359

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Really looking forward to the game but a little apprehensive to be honest.

Clare inflicted serious pain last year, but we were a total shambles so shouldn't play out the same way this year.

I am slightly concerned about size though.

Clare will know how to exploit our aggression for soft frees so we have to be far more disciplined.

Ultimately we don't know what our team will look like come championship but the lads who are getting a chance now are going well and improving all the time which should be applauded."
Team from last year was James Lawlor; Shane Reck, Simon Donohoe, David Clarke; Conor Foley (0-1), Damien Reck (0-1), Jack O'Connor; Liam Óg McGovern, Cathal Dunbar (0-3); Conor Hearne (0-1), Connal Flood, Charlie McGuckin (0-2); Rory Higgins (0-1), Conor McDonald (1-0), Ross Banville (0-8, 6 frees, 2 '65s).

Probably five players will start with a team of
Fanning, Murphy, Foley, Reck, Donohue, Reck ,Molloy , Hearne, Corey, Tucker, Chin, Byrne, Byrne, Lawlor, Casey.

Both teams are missing a lot due to injuries and you would be fearful of the result tbh.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 21/02/2024 12:59:05    2527365

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Replying To Timbertony:  "I really don't think so this year. In the backs, Murphy and Foley if they continue to perform will rightly hold their spots for the Dublin game. With the 2 x Recks and Ryan nailed on if fit that only leaves one spot up for grabs possibly. Both Gorey lads, Donohue aswell in the mix for it. I think Devitt, who has always been too loose for me at corner back, and MoH have it all to do to get back in.

We aren't as strong with options in midfield and up front. But the likes of Casey if he keeps performing should hold his spot too. Chin, Kevin Foley on current form and Rory are certs to start so there aren't many lads going to walk back into the team this year. The likes of Dunbar, Dwyer and Oisin Foley have never performed consistently enough to be definite starters for me. This competition for places is long overdue.

* A heavy defeat again to Clare on Sunday might throw all the above up in a heap!"
Trying not to think about a heavy defeat but the thought has crossed my mind. More than once too! As regards the fullback line the worry would be that when the ground hardens and the game speeds up do Conor and Niall have the pace to keep up with a fast corner forward. Probably the best position for both would be fullback, but for me Jippo has to start there . Another problem I'd have is their ball distribution forwards. Conor especially doesn't look up. The losing of the u20 final last year was definitely influenced by Conor, Darragh Carley etc running the ball into contact. They don't get the head up and don't play long hard flat stick passes. Shane I think has to start cornerback but again he's not a creator either. Damien centreback.
The worry watching the Offaly game was if you pick the lads you are mentioning above, all of whom played against Offaly, you aren't going to have anyone capable of playing a good ball to suit our inside forwards. It has to be quick, both hit hard and fast, but also hit in straight away. With Carty away Devitt and O Hanlon are probably the next best lads at playing that kind of ball. Conor Foley tended to overcommit when playing wingback, and we leaked scores because of it. Think Phelan got 1-3 off him. I think if he's not going to play fullback as he is now and playing very well there, I'd put him midfield where he plays for his club. Hard to know where best to play Charlie. He's still only young, and plays with great intensity, but is very frustrating when comes to choosing the right option at intercounty. At club he has more time to process things and makes better choices so hopefully he will improve as he plays more.
Up front Oisin Foley plays with good intensity, covers ground, has great workrate, can catch a high ball, and doesn't hit many wides. Not sure we have a better wing forward if he's fully fit. Hopefully Jacko could improve his catching and workrate as he's excellent otherwise, and hopefully Mark Byrne can step up and he's only 23. Mogie is just pure class in every way hard not to start him if he's fully fit. Kevin might be best midfield. Dunbar is very fast, skilful too, but fades in and out of games. James Byrne has looked good and plays with the head up but is still only 23. Tucker likewise is improving and is only 22 this year. Seamus is 23/4 also. Cian is 21 this year. These lads all could, and will, improve as regards S and C as time goes on, and will hopefully be nailed on starters when they get to 26. Come championship you would worry will the lads who have played so far be able for the increase in speed of the game. Obviously the more they play at Senior Intercounty level the quicker they should be able to hurl, but to expect a raft of lads in their 1st or 2nd year to make that step up straight away is a big ask. Only really exceptional lads can do that in this day and age.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 21/02/2024 13:20:51    2527372

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Replying To hunting:  "Who is Dooley and patsy viking?"
Dooley is Simon Donohoe, Patsy is Cian Molloy

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/02/2024 13:49:09    2527380

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Missed the Waterford vs Clare game a few weeks ago - saw they started McInerney, Conlon and Cleary. I presume it was Cleary on the edge of square, McInerney at wing back and Conlon at 6?

Reason I'm asking this is apart from Chin were lacking height from 10-15 to match up with them if Jacks red doesn't get rescinded, not to mention Malone in the middle of the field and Fitzgerald…

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 272 - 21/02/2024 15:14:20    2527399

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Missed the Waterford vs Clare game a few weeks ago - saw they started McInerney, Conlon and Cleary. I presume it was Cleary on the edge of square, McInerney at wing back and Conlon at 6?

Reason I'm asking this is apart from Chin were lacking height from 10-15 to match up with them if Jacks red doesn't get rescinded, not to mention Malone in the middle of the field and Fitzgerald…"
Not much we can do about height, we have the players we have and in any case Jacko has alot of strengths but catching isn't one of them he catches maybe 1 in 10 balls played his way and jumps without his feet leaving the ground, so what we don't want to do is play aimless high dropping ball into the forwards. Long low hard fast balls played into space and in fast, as in straight away. Those sort of balls suit Chin, Mac and Jacko better also tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 21/02/2024 15:40:13    2527408

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So limerick and Dublin and Kerry and Dublin is a double header. Why in gods name couldn't the GAA have put on wexford Waterford and Wexford Clare on as a double header.

I live in Dublin so going to the double header in croker and travelling down Sunday for Clare game

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 366 - 21/02/2024 18:15:42    2527432

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "So limerick and Dublin and Kerry and Dublin is a double header. Why in gods name couldn't the GAA have put on wexford Waterford and Wexford Clare on as a double header.

I live in Dublin so going to the double header in croker and travelling down Sunday for Clare game"
Dressing rooms are apparently too small for modern day intercounty set ups, that's why their been renovated later in the year, hasn't been an intercounty double header in the park since 2019.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/02/2024 21:08:46    2527452

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Dressing rooms are apparently too small for modern day intercounty set ups, that's why their been renovated later in the year, hasn't been an intercounty double header in the park since 2019."
Yes, that's exactly it. There's work to be done later in the year, with a view to being able to host inter-county double-headers again from next year onwards.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2919 - 21/02/2024 21:26:52    2527454

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Dressing rooms are apparently too small for modern day intercounty set ups, that's why their been renovated later in the year, hasn't been an intercounty double header in the park since 2019."
They are small for a club team with way less backroom lads.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 21/02/2024 21:34:43    2527456

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Replying To Viking66:  "Trying not to think about a heavy defeat but the thought has crossed my mind. More than once too! As regards the fullback line the worry would be that when the ground hardens and the game speeds up do Conor and Niall have the pace to keep up with a fast corner forward. Probably the best position for both would be fullback, but for me Jippo has to start there . Another problem I'd have is their ball distribution forwards. Conor especially doesn't look up. The losing of the u20 final last year was definitely influenced by Conor, Darragh Carley etc running the ball into contact. They don't get the head up and don't play long hard flat stick passes. Shane I think has to start cornerback but again he's not a creator either. Damien centreback.
The worry watching the Offaly game was if you pick the lads you are mentioning above, all of whom played against Offaly, you aren't going to have anyone capable of playing a good ball to suit our inside forwards. It has to be quick, both hit hard and fast, but also hit in straight away. With Carty away Devitt and O Hanlon are probably the next best lads at playing that kind of ball. Conor Foley tended to overcommit when playing wingback, and we leaked scores because of it. Think Phelan got 1-3 off him. I think if he's not going to play fullback as he is now and playing very well there, I'd put him midfield where he plays for his club. Hard to know where best to play Charlie. He's still only young, and plays with great intensity, but is very frustrating when comes to choosing the right option at intercounty. At club he has more time to process things and makes better choices so hopefully he will improve as he plays more.
Up front Oisin Foley plays with good intensity, covers ground, has great workrate, can catch a high ball, and doesn't hit many wides. Not sure we have a better wing forward if he's fully fit. Hopefully Jacko could improve his catching and workrate as he's excellent otherwise, and hopefully Mark Byrne can step up and he's only 23. Mogie is just pure class in every way hard not to start him if he's fully fit. Kevin might be best midfield. Dunbar is very fast, skilful too, but fades in and out of games. James Byrne has looked good and plays with the head up but is still only 23. Tucker likewise is improving and is only 22 this year. Seamus is 23/4 also. Cian is 21 this year. These lads all could, and will, improve as regards S and C as time goes on, and will hopefully be nailed on starters when they get to 26. Come championship you would worry will the lads who have played so far be able for the increase in speed of the game. Obviously the more they play at Senior Intercounty level the quicker they should be able to hurl, but to expect a raft of lads in their 1st or 2nd year to make that step up straight away is a big ask. Only really exceptional lads can do that in this day and age."
To be fair to Conor Foley he seems to have improved an awful lot since last year. But he's likely to have a fair old test on Sunday whether it's the likes of Rodgers, O'Donnell or one of them. I'd be more worried about our HB line and midfield to be honest. Balance doesn't seem right there but not many options.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 424 - 22/02/2024 00:08:27    2527467

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not much we can do about height, we have the players we have and in any case Jacko has alot of strengths but catching isn't one of them he catches maybe 1 in 10 balls played his way and jumps without his feet leaving the ground, so what we don't want to do is play aimless high dropping ball into the forwards. Long low hard fast balls played into space and in fast, as in straight away. Those sort of balls suit Chin, Mac and Jacko better also tbh."
jumps without his feet leaving the ground - You mean he stands on his tippy toes :)

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1992 - 22/02/2024 00:55:36    2527469

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Replying To zinny:  "jumps without his feet leaving the ground - You mean he stands on his tippy toes :)"
Check him out next game Zinny. He's a strong ball carrier, great striking off both sides, great at finding space, closes down well and wins dirty ball when he's in the form to do it, but he's not a high fielder and never was.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 22/02/2024 07:46:13    2527475

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Replying To Timbertony:  "To be fair to Conor Foley he seems to have improved an awful lot since last year. But he's likely to have a fair old test on Sunday whether it's the likes of Rodgers, O'Donnell or one of them. I'd be more worried about our HB line and midfield to be honest. Balance doesn't seem right there but not many options."
Wingback is a weakness this year. Hopefully 2 of Devitt, Patsy and Matthew will get into form and have a great season. Not sure Charlie is a starter there at intercounty yet. Maybe Dooley either but distribution/heads up could be an issue for him there too. I'd say they will play Rodgers in at full forward. He will give Conor a good test he's an excellent player. Unlikely SOD will be playing.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 22/02/2024 07:50:22    2527476

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Replying To Viking66:  "Wingback is a weakness this year. Hopefully 2 of Devitt, Patsy and Matthew will get into form and have a great season. Not sure Charlie is a starter there at intercounty yet. Maybe Dooley either but distribution/heads up could be an issue for him there too. I'd say they will play Rodgers in at full forward. He will give Conor a good test he's an excellent player. Unlikely SOD will be playing."
Half back line could be Donohoe, D Reck, Molloy on Sunday. Big test for all our lads

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 22/02/2024 08:55:51    2527487

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Speculation from Clare-
https://www.clare.fm/sport/clare-turn-focus-crucial-wexford-showdown-national-hurling-league/

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 22/02/2024 10:18:47    2527503

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Half back line could be Donohoe, D Reck, Molloy on Sunday. Big test for all our lads"
Big opportunity for them too. In that shambles of a game against Clare last year I thought our HB line, and midfield, sold the full back line out by not keeping any shape and leaving loads of space for the Clare forwards. Our guys simply have to hold their shape on Sunday, Damien Reck is a fine player but not sure that's his game at 6.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 424 - 22/02/2024 10:52:00    2527516

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Big opportunity for them too. In that shambles of a game against Clare last year I thought our HB line, and midfield, sold the full back line out by not keeping any shape and leaving loads of space for the Clare forwards. Our guys simply have to hold their shape on Sunday, Damien Reck is a fine player but not sure that's his game at 6."
Would like to see Matt at 3 Jippo at 6 and Damien at either wing back or midfield

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 22/02/2024 11:50:54    2527524

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