Fabio you are wasting your time completely. I remember Ormo claiming on here previously that the six nations is treated by all participating teams as seriously as the world cup. However a few months later he links to an article to show that Ireland womens six nations victory was due to England playing a weakened team so they would be better prepared for the upcoming world cup! The view taken must always be the opposite of popular opinion, regardless of whether this completely undermines previous positions taken. Its tedious and frequently clutters up interesting threads sadly.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/11/2014 19:25:27    1673469

i just cant comprehend the point being made soma....can you imagine what the media would be like if we didnt play our best players in the 6 nations?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 19/11/2014 19:31:29    1673472

so mediaman cricket is not even in the top 4 most popular sports in Australia? your posts are becoming more laughable.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 19/11/2014 19:35:39    1673478

These two links kind of show how popular sports are in Australia. It is hard to place cricker. Certainly very popular but not 1 oe 2 anyway.

http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/countries/australia.htm

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2014/apr/15/australia-football-interactive-statistics

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 19/11/2014 20:24:37    1673492

AFL is only big in Melbourne, Rugby League in Sydney but cricket is big everywhere. Definitely no 1 overall

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 19/11/2014 21:04:06    1673501

The latest annual attendance figures for Australian sports are. 1. Aussie Rules 6,975,137. 2. Rugby League. 3,060,531. 3. Soccer. 1,887,206. 4. Rugby Union. 773,940. And 5. Cricket 657,227. So cricket is 11 times less popular than AFL.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 19/11/2014 21:12:30    1673503

Bad monkey its your posts that are becoming embarrassing by the minute. You obviously haven't the first clue about horse racing and what it means to the people involved and it is the sport we are the best at internationally in this country.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/11/2014 21:20:31    1673505

Ormond horse racing and soccer are bigger professional sports then rugby we have been through this before, i don't know why your obsession over whither a sport is pro or not were you complaining before rugby went pro that Rte were covering Ireland's game. It would have been very stupid if the had got rid Connacht back then. Rte has given more coverage to American football in thee last couple of days then the have the International rules. Blacky it is a bit ironic you talking about horse racing been the sport of kings when you constantly defend rugby a game of private schools/boarding schools. Ormond it is rubbish to say that people don't care about the Kerry final a game which involved a number of All Ireland winners, i am a long way from Tralee but i had interest in that game and so did a large number of people I know. Gaa games are on 12 months a year while Rte only cover it for a couple of months while the give rugby coverage 12 months of the year.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 19/11/2014 21:25:54    1673509

Not sure how you are compiling them stats monkey or what measurement you are using. Cricket is apparently the 7th most watched sport in Oz, and the 6th best attended. You maybe can use other measurements to bump it up the order, but at least it confirms that mediamans listing is not outlandish. Its a pity you attack the poster rather than putting forward reasonable counterpoints. All of his posts are researched and certainly give reason for thought.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/11/2014 21:26:48    1673510

If you add in non ball games such as Horse Racing and Motor Sports, Cricket actually falls to No.7. It's not really surprising cricket appears more popular than it actually is. We view Australian cricket mostly through the British media which tries to hype up the Ashes rivalry and give the impression of Australians as fanatical about cricket which they clearly are not.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 19/11/2014 21:29:06    1673512

It must that soccer bias in the "D4 bubble" ha ha ha

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 19/11/2014 21:36:37    1673517

Participation in cricket for the 12/13 season was 951,933 - the highest of any sport. 18.4 million people watched international cricket team on TV nationally.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 19/11/2014 21:42:52    1673521

19/11/2014 19:05:14 fabio8
obviously the players available were still trying but not sending your best team available sends a certain message..evidently not taking it seriously..it would be like the all blacks playing a weakened team in the tri nations or brazil playing the copa america without neymar..it sends a certain message that your priorities are elsewhere No it doesn't. New Zealand don't always have their best side out do they take every game seriously? Of course they do
Do Brazil/Spain in soccer always have their best team out in games. No they don't but that doesn't mean they are not sending any message or not taking a game seriously.
19/11/2014 19:19:48 mediaman
Interesting to see how RTE treats this weekend's 2 internationals between Ireland and Australia. In the strictest sense both are friendly matches so in theory there shouldn't be much difference? The Australian media will be different of course because the AFL players involved in the International Rules game represent the most popular sport in Australia so they will be more interested in the game in Perth than the fixture in Dublin. The second most popular sport in Australia is Rugby League and Soccer is third. Rugby is fourth most popular and is currently in crisis having witnessed its lowest international attendance of modern times in recent weeks. But does RTE know this or does it even want to know?International Rules is a 1 off game in a game that Is a mix of 2 sports while the rugby is a game between 2 of the top sides in the world with 1/2 a season to go until a world cup. They are very different games in every way

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/11/2014 21:56:43    1673524

19/11/2014 19:25:27
Soma
Fabio you are wasting your time completely. I remember Ormo claiming on here previously that the six nations is treated by all participating teams as seriously as the world cup. However a few months later he links to an article to show that Ireland womens six nations victory was due to England playing a weakened team so they would be better prepared for the upcoming world cup! The view taken must always be the opposite of popular opinion, regardless of whether this completely undermines previous positions taken. Its tedious and frequently clutters up interesting threads sadly. How can you speak down to me from your high horse when you deliberately spell my name incorrectly
I was speaking about the male 6 nations. Different competition and different sport. and the way England have dominated womens rugby allowed them to do so.
19/11/2014 19:35:39 bad.monkey
so mediaman cricket is not even in the top 4 most popular sports in Australia? your posts are becoming more laughable. +1
19/11/2014 21:25:54 ROS1
Ormond horse racing and soccer are bigger professional sports then rugby we have been through this before, i don't know why your obsession over whither a sport is pro or not were you complaining before rugby went pro that Rte were covering Ireland's game. It would have been very stupid if the had got rid Connacht back then. Rte has given more coverage to American football in thee last couple of days then the have the International rules. Blacky it is a bit ironic you talking about horse racing been the sport of kings when you constantly defend rugby a game of private schools/boarding schools. Ormond it is rubbish to say that people don't care about the Kerry final a game which involved a number of All Ireland winners, i am a long way from Tralee but i had interest in that game and so did a large number of people I know. Gaa games are on 12 months a year while Rte only cover it for a couple of months while the give rugby coverage 12 months of the year. How is soccer a bigger professional sport? Robbie Keane etc don't count considering they all live and earn their income outside this country
It wouldn't at the time have been stupid to get rid of Connacht
Through the entire country there wouldn't have been huge interest in a club county final...
Rugby doesn't get coverage 12 months of the year.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/11/2014 22:02:15    1673525

Ormond you are right the international rules match is different to the rugby game, the international rules game is only chance Gaelic players have of representing there country and are competing for a trophy named after a young Irish player who many would have known, of course been the only international opportunity the have it is the highest level at international level the compete whereas this is not the case in rugby where the 6 nations and the world cup are far more important then a one off game against Australia. Ormond you use the fact that the Irish rugby team represent the country but you and Rte largely ignore other sports people who represent there country. Off course gealic and afl are far bigger sports then rugby union in both there countries, you say both countries are top rugby countries but neither countries are likely to reach the world cup semi finals according to the bookies, indeed Ireland are the only decent team not to get to the world cup semi final, at least Ireland and Australia are the 2 top teams in international rules. The rugby world cup is 10 months away and there is three quarters of the season left, a player could be man of the match against Aus but if he goes back to his club and losses his form he is not going to on the six nations team never mind the world cup team. At least the Australia rugby match may be entertaining and competitive the same cant be said for the Geogra game which Rte gave massive coverage to.
Spain and Brazil would play there best team if the were playing in the European cup/copa America knock out stages, unless you consider the six nations the same as a international friendly. There is a league of Ireland in soccer in case you did not know, rugby does get 12 months coverage, for example even in the rugby off season you have the tours which get big coverage especially the lions tour. People who have an interest in Gaa would be interested in the result of the Kerry county final for example, clearly you have people who don't have an interest in any sport who would not care of the result of any sport. It would have been extremely stupid for a sport which it is trying to get broaden its appeal away from its traditional base to get rid of one of its four provincial teams especially in the area where the would have been weakest in.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 20/11/2014 09:49:44    1673552

Ormond states a lot of people wouldn't have an interest in the Kerry county final well if that's the case 99% of the country wouldn't have an interest in the Connaught starting team to face zebre in the pro12 but we still get it announced to us

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/11/2014 10:34:41    1673566

Ormond I notice you gave up the ghost on horse racing point I made

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/11/2014 10:36:09    1673568

bad.monkey
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Horse racing is the past time of royalty and the ultra rich to race their horses against each other and for bookies to feed off the addictions and misery of gamblers. It shouldn't be shown on RTE at all.


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Bad monkey its your posts that are becoming embarrassing by the minute. You obviously haven't the first clue about horse racing and what it means to the people involved and it is the sport we are the best at internationally in this country.

Very noticeable that you could not claim any of my post is untrue.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 20/11/2014 12:20:19    1673620

Not a mention of the international rules match by rte as at 2 o clock on Thursday, yet there carrying live coverage of the announcement of the rugby team on there website, Ormond how much coverage would the have by now if it was the lions team playing on Saturday morning instead of the international rules match. Off course no mention of the Connacht or Munster club finals either.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 20/11/2014 14:05:11    1673667

The most watched sports event in Ireland in 2013 was the Dublin/Mayo All-Ireland Football Final. The most watched rugby game (Ireland v England) had 300,000 less viewers than the Football Final. The message is therefore quite clear. Far more people given a choice watch football/hurling than watch rugby. The Clare/Cork Hurling Final also had more viewers than the rugby game. So why does RTE's general coverage not reflect this fact? The inevitable conclusion is that those in RTE who call the shots give preference to their own sport - rugby rather than taking into account the wishes of the paying public (license holders). Is our own money being used to discriminate against us? Surely not.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 20/11/2014 15:07:56    1673700