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Ormo you are incredibly tiresome. Did you even read the interview? Here is what Niamh Briggs had to say, as taken from the RTE website:
"Coghlan said the coverage Ireland's women's side had received in the media had been predominantly positive over the past two seasons, and that after the game against England the media had "gone very lightly on us".I hope in the next couple of years, as the game progresses more, that they will know more about the players and what they're capable of." However, she agreed that if Ireland's men's team had won against New Zealand in a World Cup and then gone on lose in a manner similar to how the women's side lost to England, they would be heavily criticised. Coghlan said the players had been unsparing in their own analysis. "It was a dark dressing-room the next morning, and the video analysis [on] ourselves was very tough. You had to stand up and take the blame for where we went wrong. It wasn't written about in the paper, and I was surprised it wasn't, because we had a good following in the papers and on TV, and they were positive about it, which I was shocked at."
So while you might patronisingly say that they played ok in the 33 point defeat, the team themselves had a very different view, and it is their view I will take seriously. It is also a shame that you would besmirch an athlete like Briggs biggest success by claiming it was achieved largely due to England not bothering that year.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 18/11/2014 17:32:37    1673120

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6.30pm. Tuesday. The RTE Sport website's obsession with rugby continues. Again only 1 football/hurling story, that's 5% of their Top 20 stories. Rugby has 4 stories that's 25% including a 1,000 word review of last Sunday's friendly match. Football and hurling don't get 1,000 words a week. That's what comes from living in a D4 bubble.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 18/11/2014 18:39:27    1673138

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u do always act like your right...there is countless people on here who will support me on that 1..i dont remember the cricket side receiving anywhere near the same amount of coverage as the womens rugby team...so you are essentially making it they didnt even win a proper 6 nations?..way to diminish their achivement

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/11/2014 18:45:56    1673139

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soma its strange how some people think they know better than the players themselves...especially considering the players received no support until they became somewhat popular in recent times yet somehow people think they know better than the players themselves all of a sudden now?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/11/2014 18:47:21    1673140

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6.30pm. Tuesday. The RTE Sport website's obsession with rugby continues. Again only 1 football/hurling story, that's 5% of their Top 20 stories. Rugby has 4 stories that's 25% including a 1,000 word review of last Sunday's friendly match. Football and hurling don't get 1,000 words a week. That's what comes from living in a D4 bubble.


Perhaps you could give us the full picture - ie what made up the other 70% ?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 18/11/2014 20:21:28    1673169

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There are 3 Irish teams playing this week and the Rte have given to these 3 games over the last 2 days is a perfect example of why this thread was set up in the first place, yesterday across tv, radio and web rte gave more coverage game on Saturday evening then it gave to the soccer game happening the next day, even this evening on the six one sports news there was a longer report on the rugby game happening in five days time then the soccer game happening in less then an hour, not a single mention of the international rules game on tv, radio or web. Ormond I remember you telling me hoW Rte would give plenty of coverage to the international rules but bearing in mind that the are not showing it live or highlights on tv or broadcasting it on the radio, have not even mentioned it up to now it is safe to assume it is yet another time you are wrong. Ormond you complained when i was looking for Rte just to list gaa club results, now you tell me that against the head show rugby club games.
Ormond you correctly mention how Rte are showing less rugby games this season but what you fail to mention last season the showed four times as much rugby as hurling and three and third times as football. This season even with the reduced amount of games the are still showing about the same rugby games as the show football, hurling, camogie and ladies football combined four sports that has more players then rugby.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/11/2014 20:52:56    1673182

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In the past 7 days there have been 14 football/hurling stories on the RTE Sport website. That's an average of 2 a day. There have been 14 rugby stories on the RTE website in the last 2 days alone. That's an average of 7 a day. Is that a fair reflection of the interests of the Irish sporting public?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 18/11/2014 21:03:19    1673185

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/11/2014 17:32:37 Soma
Ormo you are incredibly tiresome. Did you even read the interview? Here is what Niamh Briggs had to say, as taken from the RTE website:
"Coghlan said the coverage Ireland's women's side had received in the media had been predominantly positive over the past two seasons, and that after the game against England the media had "gone very lightly on us".I hope in the next couple of years, as the game progresses more, that they will know more about the players and what they're capable of." However, she agreed that if Ireland's men's team had won against New Zealand in a World Cup and then gone on lose in a manner similar to how the women's side lost to England, they would be heavily criticised. Coghlan said the players had been unsparing in their own analysis. "It was a dark dressing-room the next morning, and the video analysis [on] ourselves was very tough. You had to stand up and take the blame for where we went wrong. It wasn't written about in the paper, and I was surprised it wasn't, because we had a good following in the papers and on TV, and they were positive about it, which I was shocked at."
So while you might patronisingly say that they played ok in the 33 point defeat, the team themselves had a very different view, and it is their view I will take seriously. It is also a shame that you would besmirch an athlete like Briggs biggest success by claiming it was achieved largely due to England not bothering that year.
If im tiresome. You are too and with the 'ormo' stuff you are a hypocrite as you have jumped in to dismiss me for posting something about others here when you had no right to yet you arrogantly call me 'ormo'. There is no ormo on this forum. There is Ormond. My username is 2 words. ORMOND and BANNERMAN. Why don't people simply say the first word.
Of course the media would have been very positive on the womens side the past 2 years. Their record shows up very positively so media would hardly have looked negatively on the team.
Im not knocking any of the players at all

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/11/2014 21:06:08    1673188

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18/11/2014 18:39:27
mediaman
6.30pm. Tuesday. The RTE Sport website's obsession with rugby continues. Again only 1 football/hurling story, that's 5% of their Top 20 stories. Rugby has 4 stories that's 25% including a 1,000 word review of last Sunday's friendly match. Football and hurling don't get 1,000 words a week. That's what comes from living in a D4 bubble.
Where else do you carry out your crusade. Have you contacted RTE or other media sources about the supposed bias in our state media? Why not create a blog to really show case your anti RTE posts. Use twitter and facebook to promote the blog and get people to support you in your quest to make RTE give all sports equal coverage
1000 words would be fairly standard for any match report so nothing wrong with that.
Gaelic and Hurling get well over 1000 words a week in the summer and when their main competitions are on but its the middle of November and there's only club games on and they wont get huge amounts written about them
18/11/2014 18:45:56 fabio8
u do always act like your right...there is countless people on here who will support me on that 1..i dont remember the cricket side receiving anywhere near the same amount of coverage as the womens rugby team...so you are essentially making it they didnt even win a proper 6 nations?..way to diminish their achivement
soma its strange how some people think they know better than the players themselves...especially considering the players received no support until they became somewhat popular in recent times yet somehow people think they know better than the players themselves all of a sudden now?
No I don't and I do admit im wrong. The cricket team in 2007 got ridiculous amounts of coverage.
They won a proper 6 nations but England, the best side and most dominant in womens rugby in Europe, didn't have their best squad playing
18/11/2014 20:21:28 bad.monkey
Perhaps you could give us the full picture - ie what made up the other 70%?
That wouldn't suit his agenda where RTE is a completely rugby biased organisation who don't give a s*** about other sports

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/11/2014 21:13:55    1673194

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Dont know whats more repetitive, the posts here, or ormos constant whinging about people not saying his full name.
Ormond bannerman isnt even your real name (I assume) so who gives a damn if someone shortens it?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 18/11/2014 21:20:20    1673198

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Soma i would have to agree ormond is very patronising to the Irish women's rugby team but he is not the only one the Irish indo which until recently was controlled by a former lion let us not forget described that loss to England as brave and the way Rte described there play off loss to France i thought the had won as the heaped so much praise on the team before actually saying the had lost the match. Fabio you are correct other international Irish teams including cricket get little coverage compared to the Irish rugby team. It is funny Ormond you insulting the Irish women's team achievement of winning the grand slam on one hand and using that win as a reason for Rte to cover there matches, much the same way you are always going on about the increase in rugby yet you want rid of one of the provinces, i have seen you defending Ireland call which is a poor song but it will have to be changed if you get your way to 3 provinces standing shoulder to shoulder.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/11/2014 21:20:27    1673199

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Ormond you say that people have little interest in club gaa games which is rubbish, you also fail to mention not one mention on the Rte website of the International rules match in 3 and a half days time. It good to see you finally admitting to rte bias to rugby Ormond,there are 5 rugby stories in the top 20 stories at 9.30 tonight, there is more soccer stories but Ireland soccer team are currently playing against the Usa.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/11/2014 21:32:20    1673204

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6.30pm. Tuesday. The RTE Sport website's obsession with rugby continues. Again only 1 football/hurling story, that's 5% of their Top 20 stories. Rugby has 4 stories that's 25% including a 1,000 word review of last Sunday's friendly match. Football and hurling don't get 1,000 words a week. That's what comes from living in a D4 bubble.


Perhaps you could give us the full picture - ie what made up the other 70% ?

Come on why so shy mediaman ?? Let me guess its mostly all soccer right? Come on let us know... So the 'D4 bubble' is mostly made up of soccer news - well there's a turn up for the book... seems you were wrong all along about a rugby bias , It is actual a soccer bias!!

(Or maybe back in reality different sports get more coverage depending on time of year...)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 18/11/2014 21:39:32    1673210

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you havent even given him time to respond bad monkey...you cant even acknowledge various faults with your argument yourself so who are you to demand answers from anybody?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/11/2014 21:56:46    1673218

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how can it be a proper 6 nations if the best side dont put their best side out...therefore not taking it seriously

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/11/2014 21:57:34    1673221

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Why then do the Irish go abroad so much for races? The money and as a consequence the best horses, trainers, jockeys will be racing abroad.

what irish go abroad so much?
if you mean race goers, well they go to cheltenham because it is a festival were championship races take place
thats 4 days in one year and aintree because it is again a grand national festival 3 days in one year.
they have the exact same equivalent in punchestown and thousands of english come over to it in the same fashion.
good horses are sent to the best races
they dont race over their all season they only go over for a championship event
the same as the uk horses come over here for our championship events in punchestown, leopardstown and fairyhouse.
the money is far bigger in most races here in ireland than in uk
a maiden hurdle here is worth around 10 thousand euro
where as a maiden hurdle in uk is 2-3 thousand sterling
so no the best horses jockeys trainers dont race abroad they race here and campaign there horses here
and as proof an american owner rich richie is currently one of the biggest new owners in the game
has all his horses based here with willie mullins

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/11/2014 11:19:49    1673290

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Horse racing is the past time of royalty and the ultra rich to race their horses against each other and for bookies to feed off the addictions and misery of gamblers. It shouldn't be shown on RTE at all.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 19/11/2014 12:49:09    1673334

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18/11/2014 21:20:20 joncarter
Dont know whats more repetitive, the posts here, or ormos constant whinging about people not saying his full name.
Ormond bannerman isnt even your real name (I assume) so who gives a damn if someone shortens it?
I give a damn and as its my name and my username why shouldn't I care if people constantly deliberately say it wrong. Again all this would be solved by people simply referring to me as ormond
18/11/2014 21:20:27 ROS1
Soma i would have to agree ormond is very patronising to the Irish women's rugby team but he is not the only one the Irish indo which until recently was controlled by a former lion let us not forget described that loss to England as brave and the way Rte described there play off loss to France i thought the had won as the heaped so much praise on the team before actually saying the had lost the match. Fabio you are correct other international Irish teams including cricket get little coverage compared to the Irish rugby team. It is funny Ormond you insulting the Irish women's team achievement of winning the grand slam on one hand and using that win as a reason for Rte to cover there matches, much the same way you are always going on about the increase in rugby yet you want rid of one of the provinces, i have seen you defending Ireland call which is a poor song but it will have to be changed if you get your way to 3 provinces standing shoulder to shoulder.
How am I being patronising?
Irish Rugby team is the national team of the largest professional sport in Ireland. Of course it'll get huge attention. Its main sides compete every week with most games on live tv. I wasn't insulting the women's team by saying England were weakened. It was a huge achievement to beat England considering Ireland hadn't done it before but lets face facts. England didn't play several of their top players in that 6 nations as they were playing or working in the 7s set up in England
I don't want to get rid of Connacht. I said at the time when IRFU were thinking of doing the decision could easily be justified and if IRFU had shut down Connachts pro team they would have been correct
18/11/2014 21:32:20 ROS1
Ormond you say that people have little interest in club gaa games which is rubbish, you also fail to mention not one mention on the Rte website of the International rules match in 3 and a half days time. It good to see you finally admitting to rte bias to rugby Ormond,there are 5 rugby stories in the top 20 stories at 9.30 tonight, there is more soccer stories but Ireland soccer team are currently playing against the Usa.
Nationally is their a large proportion of people who will care for a louth gaelic football game or a Kerry gaelic football game or a Tipperary hurling game? No thre isn't
There is so many rugby stories as its rugby season and the internationals are in full swing..,
18/11/2014 21:57:34 fabio8
how can it be a proper 6 nations if the best side dont put their best side out...therefore not taking it seriously
England were most certainly taking that 6 Nations seriously. You don't think the players were still going out to not keep the fairly ridiculous record England have in womens 6 nations???

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/11/2014 18:55:12    1673453

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obviously the players available were still trying but not sending your best team available sends a certain message..evidently not taking it seriously..it would be like the all blacks playing a weakened team in the tri nations or brazil playing the copa america without neymar..it sends a certain message that your priorities are elsewhere

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 19/11/2014 19:05:14    1673459

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Interesting to see how RTE treats this weekend's 2 internationals between Ireland and Australia. In the strictest sense both are friendly matches so in theory there shouldn't be much difference? The Australian media will be different of course because the AFL players involved in the International Rules game represent the most popular sport in Australia so they will be more interested in the game in Perth than the fixture in Dublin. The second most popular sport in Australia is Rugby League and Soccer is third. Rugby is fourth most popular and is currently in crisis having witnessed its lowest international attendance of modern times in recent weeks. But does RTE know this or does it even want to know?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 19/11/2014 19:19:48    1673466

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