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Replying To kerry4sam25: "THis Cork side could do the 5 in a row. Unreal talent and plenty more coming through." They've done five in a row..losing finals :-)) spion7 (Roscommon) - Posts: 63 - 21/07/2025 12:03:52 2626848 Link
Replying To Yadse: "I guess Cork beat themselves right? Cos nobody else could have beaten them" Yes, you could say Cork beat themselves, at the same time you would have to admire and say well done to Tipp, for taking advantage of that situation. Cork had a number of self inflicted lost scoring chances that humbled Tipp's final score. A Cork ball that was destined for the net, sadly it hit the hit the post that was destined for the net, came out and was sort of cleared. A Cork ball that was destined for the net, alas it hit the cross bar, that carried no score. A Cork ball that was destined for a point hit the top of the post and went wide. A Cork penalty that should have rattled the back of the net but was saved by the keeper. (No penalty should be saved in the game of hurling.) Cork was reduced to 14 players. The Cork keeper was unfortunate to try and save the ball that was destined for a point but to find it in the back of his net. Although Tipp's next goal was flicked in nicely, any other day it may not have happened as easily. I make that 05-01. I make that 00-16 that went a begging for Cork. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3231 - 21/07/2025 12:31:19 2626859 Link
That was for me the most astonishing All Ireland hurling final I've ever seen and I've been around for a good few. Cork just scoring two points in the second half is mind blowing, yes Tipperary were outstanding in the second half but you'd expect a McDonagh Cup team to score more than that against. The total disappearance of Cork's big time players and the inaction of the sideline when it was obvious that changes needed to be made is hard to understand. Pat Ryan talking about the lack of energy in the second half is on him and his back room team. The signs were there in the first half, Tipp had more chances than Cork and maybe if Barrett hadn't scored the goal right before half time Cork have come back out with a better effort. Houdini couldn't have done a better job of making Cork disappear in that second half, Barrett went missing in the second half and Hayes was almost invisible for the entire match. It was defiantly a spectacle but not the one we were hoping for. Congratulations Tipperary on a fantastic win. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 566 - 21/07/2025 13:08:27 2626872 Link
Replying To spion7: "They've done five in a row..losing finals :-))" I do believe it's six in a row, five more and they will be as good as us in Mayo cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 566 - 21/07/2025 13:20:42 2626877 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Yes, you could say Cork beat themselves, at the same time you would have to admire and say well done to Tipp, for taking advantage of that situation. Cork had a number of self inflicted lost scoring chances that humbled Tipp's final score. A Cork ball that was destined for the net, sadly it hit the hit the post that was destined for the net, came out and was sort of cleared. A Cork ball that was destined for the net, alas it hit the cross bar, that carried no score. A Cork ball that was destined for a point hit the top of the post and went wide. A Cork penalty that should have rattled the back of the net but was saved by the keeper. (No penalty should be saved in the game of hurling.) Cork was reduced to 14 players. The Cork keeper was unfortunate to try and save the ball that was destined for a point but to find it in the back of his net. Although Tipp's next goal was flicked in nicely, any other day it may not have happened as easily. I make that 05-01. I make that 00-16 that went a begging for Cork." Sorry, the gods don't alter destiny. The sliotair was destined to hit the upright and the crossbar: that's what happened because the Cork forwards lacked the requisite accuracy. As the man said, if my Aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle. The penalty could have been struck better,....that's on the Cork player not on the gods. The Cork player got a second yellow. That's on him. Collins should have charged out and been much more decisive on that high incoming which ball he batted straight out to a Tipp player. That was bad goalkeeping. You make your own good and bad luck in sport. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2025 - 21/07/2025 13:41:41 2626886 Link
Is it not their last 5 Finals lost now...? 2025 2024 2021 2013 2006 Won it in 2004 and 2005 But losing 3 of the last 5 must be a sickener for them. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 13:46:18 2626890 Link
Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Cork playing some exceptional hurling this year. League in the bag and one foot in the Munster final. Have the best of forwards. They have Limerick numbers. Who can stop Cork? https://hoganstand.com/Cork/Article/Index/336114 https://hoganstand.com/Cork#google_vignette" Ehhh.....Tipp. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2025 - 21/07/2025 13:50:47 2626893 Link
Replying To brayballer: "Sure will. Many people talking about Corks collapse but it was Tipp that totally nullified them .Tipp just out hurled Cork." Tipp didn't play all that well either, plenty of poor 1st touches, poor wides and poor passes also. But they played an honest hard working game, and fully deserved to win. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 21/07/2025 13:54:29 2626896 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Tipp didn't play all that well either, plenty of poor 1st touches, poor wides and poor passes also. But they played an honest hard working game, and fully deserved to win." Definitely - was it 18 wides Tipp ended up with.? Cork just completely malfunctioned in that 2nd half. Albeit they had a man down, missed a penalty and hit the woodwork 3 or 4 times also. But Tipp deserved it. Often, the unexpected wins are the most enjoyable. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 14:25:26 2626908 Link
Replying To avonali: "Sorry, the gods don't alter destiny. The sliotair was destined to hit the upright and the crossbar: that's what happened because the Cork forwards lacked the requisite accuracy. As the man said, if my Aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle. The penalty could have been struck better,....that's on the Cork player not on the gods. The Cork player got a second yellow. That's on him. Collins should have charged out and been much more decisive on that high incoming which ball he batted straight out to a Tipp player. That was bad goalkeeping. You make your own good and bad luck in sport." Sorry again, but the gods had nothing to do with the game, neither had your aunt that's just a figure of speech. In a roundabout way you are just repeating what I posted. My view is, - Cork lost out on 05-01. or 00-16 and that helped Tipp in no small way. Add that 16pts to Corks total it makes it 1-34 or 37 pts, compare that to Tipps total of 3-27 or 36 pts. So now without taking from Tipps victory the final score could / should have been Cork 1-34 Tipp. 3-27. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3231 - 21/07/2025 15:17:31 2626924 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Sorry again, but the gods had nothing to do with the game, neither had your aunt that's just a figure of speech. In a roundabout way you are just repeating what I posted. My view is, - Cork lost out on 05-01. or 00-16 and that helped Tipp in no small way. Add that 16pts to Corks total it makes it 1-34 or 37 pts, compare that to Tipps total of 3-27 or 36 pts. So now without taking from Tipps victory the final score could / should have been Cork 1-34 Tipp. 3-27." You're taking into account the number of chances Cork could/should have scored, but not doing the same for Tipperary, in order to arrive at a theoretical Cork victory? Tipperary missed chances too. What most people are marveling at is how they restricted Cork to so little effort on goal, while being lethal themselves at the other end. Yesterday's game threw up a second half that I doubt I'll ever see the likes of again in my lifetime and the credit has to go to Tipperary for that, not to bemoan what Cork may have missed. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6526 - 21/07/2025 15:38:29 2626927 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Sorry again, but the gods had nothing to do with the game, neither had your aunt that's just a figure of speech. In a roundabout way you are just repeating what I posted. My view is, - Cork lost out on 05-01. or 00-16 and that helped Tipp in no small way. Add that 16pts to Corks total it makes it 1-34 or 37 pts, compare that to Tipps total of 3-27 or 36 pts. So now without taking from Tipps victory the final score could / should have been Cork 1-34 Tipp. 3-27." And the dumbest post of the year goes to Supersub15. So by your logic we will automatically just add 5-01 to Cork's tally, ignore everything else in the game and Cork really should have won by 1 point. Jesus Christ. Gonzalez (Laois) - Posts: 16 - 21/07/2025 15:46:55 2626933 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Sorry again, but the gods had nothing to do with the game, neither had your aunt that's just a figure of speech. In a roundabout way you are just repeating what I posted. My view is, - Cork lost out on 05-01. or 00-16 and that helped Tipp in no small way. Add that 16pts to Corks total it makes it 1-34 or 37 pts, compare that to Tipps total of 3-27 or 36 pts. So now without taking from Tipps victory the final score could / should have been Cork 1-34 Tipp. 3-27." Counting all Corks misses but not Tipps? In shots it was 47 to 35 in favour of Tipp. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3735 - 21/07/2025 15:58:30 2626940 Link
Corks management and players have cancelled their homecoming. That's terrible bad form. People from all over their county followed them in huge numbers all over the country. They won Munster for the 1st time in years, and the League for the 1st time since the last millennium. Shocking sulky carry on. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 21/07/2025 15:58:34 2626941 Link
Cork are watery. Hammered by Limerick and Tipp who both played those games with far more aggression than Cork. It seems that when the pressure comes on and opposition get physical - they can't handle it. hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 452 - 21/07/2025 15:59:07 2626942 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Definitely - was it 18 wides Tipp ended up with.? Cork just completely malfunctioned in that 2nd half. Albeit they had a man down, missed a penalty and hit the woodwork 3 or 4 times also. But Tipp deserved it. Often, the unexpected wins are the most enjoyable." 16 minutes before Cork scored the first of their two second half points. Going down a man had little effect on them losing, they were well on their way at that point. It's just a bewildering fact that they collapsed so bad, from the goalie right up to Brian Hayes at 15. Even the subs which usually are a boost to Cork were dead. Not taking anything away from Tipperary they were brilliant but Cork were woeful. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 566 - 21/07/2025 15:59:57 2626943 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Sorry again, but the gods had nothing to do with the game, neither had your aunt that's just a figure of speech. In a roundabout way you are just repeating what I posted. My view is, - Cork lost out on 05-01. or 00-16 and that helped Tipp in no small way. Add that 16pts to Corks total it makes it 1-34 or 37 pts, compare that to Tipps total of 3-27 or 36 pts. So now without taking from Tipps victory the final score could / should have been Cork 1-34 Tipp. 3-27." Can I get a cup of what you are drinking today? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 21/07/2025 16:10:32 2626949 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Corks management and players have cancelled their homecoming. That's terrible bad form. People from all over their county followed them in huge numbers all over the country. They won Munster for the 1st time in years, and the League for the 1st time since the last millennium. Shocking sulky carry on." Yeah, I get that it can be seen as sulky. And maybe a better way to work it would be if counties stressed beforehand that there'll only be a homecoming in a winning situation? However, I've been at plenty of Galway losing homecomings in both codes over the years ( even a couple of Mayo ones when I lived there) and they all just seemed strange atmospheres. It's a tough one to call, really.... streaker (Galway) - Posts: 548 - 21/07/2025 18:52:45 2626992 Link
Replying To hopballref: "Cork are watery. Hammered by Limerick and Tipp who both played those games with far more aggression than Cork. It seems that when the pressure comes on and opposition get physical - they can't handle it." There was talk for a couple of years about Cork being soft, and it looked to be true at times but it looked like Pat Ryan had knocked it out of them, but it reared it's head again yesterday, Tipp horsed them out of it, like men posessed. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2471 - 21/07/2025 19:36:38 2626997 Link
Corks fragility reminds me a little of Tipp in the 70s and 80s Tipp went from 71 to 89 with no AI, and until 88 to actually get to a final. They went from 71 to 87 with no Munster They couldnt buy a win back then and people talking about culture and how Tipp are the aristocrats have short memories Back then Cork were the dominant force in Munster and it felt like other teams had to be a lot better than them to actually beat them - Kilkenny excepted All that has changed now I guess winning and the winning mentality is fragile and until Cork win an AI this will be a deadweight on them Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 171 - 21/07/2025 20:09:18 2626999 Link