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Replying To Magpie2: "Tough times ahead i'm afraid. Rory was'nt great last Saturday but he is always capable of doing something special. Dalton got a two match suspension. Didn't hear what Rory got.
Looks like we are in for another hammering tomorrow. No easy games in the weeks ahead, so all we can hope for is that our injured players make a speedy recovery. If not we are odds on to make the dreaded drop.
Too many players for the trip to Tipp
Who are simply not up to intercounty standard.
Maybe we will see some improvement as the championship draws closer but you would want to be a super optimist to think that." Rory got 1 game
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Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14472 - 01/02/2025 21:46:24
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I read a lot of cods wallop here but the phone nearly fell out of my hand when people were saying a few weeks ago wexford are possibly the best team in wexford or definitely up with the best. Only for moggie a few years wexford could still be in joe mac. One recent leinster final win that was 2019. Lads pleaee be realistic and honest. kk are going for 5 or 6 leinsters and ya wouldnt hear a word from them. But of course wexford will go well agsinst kk and people will be happy enough. rossy knew this rebuild was on and belive me when chin does retire id be fearful. Rory o connor and conor mac have underwhelmed so far in their careers. Rory has a habbit of doing silly things. Yes wexford will improve when the few injured lads get back but a reality check lads wexford are a nice bit down from the top few teams. Last week's performance was at junior b level. Cork didnt look half as good when limerick worked much harder. Its no secret davey and egan didnt trust the reserves and it was a 2 or 3 subs and that was it. That energy that was there a few years ago wasn't sustainable but I've no dount it left a scar. Dublins will be better this year and galway will be much better when more seasoned lads comeback. Finishing the top 3 of leinster is vital and rossy would take your hand now for a top 3 finish. Liam cahill has tipp nearly peaking around this time but they usually go off the boil before the championship. Players need experience against the best teams but this will be a tough league and just hope relegated league heading into the championship wouldnt be ideal. Wexford need new leaders that's why I'm disappointed with Rory and conor mac they shoukd be driving this team on. Hopefully supporters go to thurles instead of waiting to come on here and give out
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E Ryan
Donohue
Murphy
Mcguckian
C Foley
R Lawlor
Hearne
David Codd
Darren Codd
Jack Redmond
Tucker
Byrne
Casey
Flood
Dwyer and Jacko on the bench.
Missing Rory and Shane Reck as well as the rest.
I like the look of the forwards a little better than the last day and good to see the other Codd getting a run.
Be interesting to see what way we set up." Would that team win the Joe McDonagh cup?
As in beat Westmeath or Laois in the final?
I'm not sure.
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Been some very long and dark days spent in Thurles and today will be no different. Just hope we aren't as lacklustre as last week. Safe travels to anyone else going.
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 175 - 02/02/2025 08:57:29
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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "I read a lot of cods wallop here but the phone nearly fell out of my hand when people were saying a few weeks ago wexford are possibly the best team in wexford or definitely up with the best. Only for moggie a few years wexford could still be in joe mac. One recent leinster final win that was 2019. Lads pleaee be realistic and honest. kk are going for 5 or 6 leinsters and ya wouldnt hear a word from them. But of course wexford will go well agsinst kk and people will be happy enough. rossy knew this rebuild was on and belive me when chin does retire id be fearful. Rory o connor and conor mac have underwhelmed so far in their careers. Rory has a habbit of doing silly things. Yes wexford will improve when the few injured lads get back but a reality check lads wexford are a nice bit down from the top few teams. Last week's performance was at junior b level. Cork didnt look half as good when limerick worked much harder. Its no secret davey and egan didnt trust the reserves and it was a 2 or 3 subs and that was it. That energy that was there a few years ago wasn't sustainable but I've no dount it left a scar. Dublins will be better this year and galway will be much better when more seasoned lads comeback. Finishing the top 3 of leinster is vital and rossy would take your hand now for a top 3 finish. Liam cahill has tipp nearly peaking around this time but they usually go off the boil before the championship. Players need experience against the best teams but this will be a tough league and just hope relegated league heading into the championship wouldnt be ideal. Wexford need new leaders that's why I'm disappointed with Rory and conor mac they shoukd be driving this team on. Hopefully supporters go to thurles instead of waiting to come on here and give out" I don't think anybody has said anything to contrary to that recently to be honest. Everyone knows we've regressed and Lost key players. People have been very positive about some underage teams alright.
In terms of Leinster Kilkenny are good alright but I don't see anyone else as being miles ahead at all.
Nobody in Wexford is looking beyond Leinster.
Regarding the league it's the same. We all knew we'd be under pressure. Most of us said that last year.
No team would come out flying if they were as depleted as we are currently.
I do agree about Rory though. He's one of the best hurlers in the country but he absolutely has to find a way to control his aggression.
We'll be under pressure again today. I can live with losing. What I'm looking for is a massively increased work rate.
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Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3312 - 02/02/2025 10:01:14
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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "I read a lot of cods wallop here but the phone nearly fell out of my hand when people were saying a few weeks ago wexford are possibly the best team in wexford or definitely up with the best. Only for moggie a few years wexford could still be in joe mac. One recent leinster final win that was 2019. Lads pleaee be realistic and honest. kk are going for 5 or 6 leinsters and ya wouldnt hear a word from them. But of course wexford will go well agsinst kk and people will be happy enough. rossy knew this rebuild was on and belive me when chin does retire id be fearful. Rory o connor and conor mac have underwhelmed so far in their careers. Rory has a habbit of doing silly things. Yes wexford will improve when the few injured lads get back but a reality check lads wexford are a nice bit down from the top few teams. Last week's performance was at junior b level. Cork didnt look half as good when limerick worked much harder. Its no secret davey and egan didnt trust the reserves and it was a 2 or 3 subs and that was it. That energy that was there a few years ago wasn't sustainable but I've no dount it left a scar. Dublins will be better this year and galway will be much better when more seasoned lads comeback. Finishing the top 3 of leinster is vital and rossy would take your hand now for a top 3 finish. Liam cahill has tipp nearly peaking around this time but they usually go off the boil before the championship. Players need experience against the best teams but this will be a tough league and just hope relegated league heading into the championship wouldnt be ideal. Wexford need new leaders that's why I'm disappointed with Rory and conor mac they shoukd be driving this team on. Hopefully supporters go to thurles instead of waiting to come on here and give out" Wexford are possibly the best team in wexford????
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1044 - 02/02/2025 10:14:42
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Lifeless game tbh
Six-point loss a fair enough reflection in the end, don't know how much of it was because we were better than last week (A very low benchmark to pass) and how much of it was because Tipperary aren't at Cork's level
At least we could point out some positives today, Jack Redmond, Connal Flood, and Richie Lawlor showed well IMO. I didn't get the decision to take off Flood, he was at least causing Tipperary problems. Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche made some decent enough contributions off the bench too, they're not really ready to contribute at this level yet but if we don't get any more players back next week, I'd rather see them start than some of our other starters today
Our forwards can't win ball for love nor money, Chin will have to play in the half-forward line when he comes back
Don't know what the deal is with Cian Molloy or Eoin Whelan, guessing they must be injured given how a lot of the other younger players are getting gametime
Think it's all about getting to championship now without shipping too many heavy beatings and hopefully getting some more experience for these younger players and getting the more experienced players back. In an ideal world, you'd blood in a few young players alongside a strong, experienced core of a team but unfortunately, we have to throw them all in at the deep end right now
Don't want to be in the business of making excuses as people never believe you no matter how valid the excuses are but it's not so much the number of players we are missing right now but rather the players we are missing. Not every player needs to be a skyscraper but you need a few on the team and we have no height at the moment, Chin, Mac, Rory, and Jippo wouldn't hurt us from a height perspective. Add those four to the two Recks and you're talking about six of our best hurlers really
Our biggest problem though is that you take the six best hurlers off Cork, Clare, or Limerick and they'd still be capable of hurling a lot better than us right now, we're too top-heavy at the moment
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Lifeless game tbh
Six-point loss a fair enough reflection in the end, don't know how much of it was because we were better than last week (A very low benchmark to pass) and how much of it was because Tipperary aren't at Cork's level
At least we could point out some positives today, Jack Redmond, Connal Flood, and Richie Lawlor showed well IMO. I didn't get the decision to take off Flood, he was at least causing Tipperary problems. Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche made some decent enough contributions off the bench too, they're not really ready to contribute at this level yet but if we don't get any more players back next week, I'd rather see them start than some of our other starters today
Our forwards can't win ball for love nor money, Chin will have to play in the half-forward line when he comes back
Don't know what the deal is with Cian Molloy or Eoin Whelan, guessing they must be injured given how a lot of the other younger players are getting gametime
Think it's all about getting to championship now without shipping too many heavy beatings and hopefully getting some more experience for these younger players and getting the more experienced players back. In an ideal world, you'd blood in a few young players alongside a strong, experienced core of a team but unfortunately, we have to throw them all in at the deep end right now
Don't want to be in the business of making excuses as people never believe you no matter how valid the excuses are but it's not so much the number of players we are missing right now but rather the players we are missing. Not every player needs to be a skyscraper but you need a few on the team and we have no height at the moment, Chin, Mac, Rory, and Jippo wouldn't hurt us from a height perspective. Add those four to the two Recks and you're talking about six of our best hurlers really
Our biggest problem though is that you take the six best hurlers off Cork, Clare, or Limerick and they'd still be capable of hurling a lot better than us right now, we're too top-heavy at the moment" Tipperary were poor enough themselves I thought, considering they put 3-25 up last week, they hit awful wides.
Big problem for us today I thought was too many lads drifted in and out of the game, Hearne was probably our best player, Lawlor did well. The height issue reared its head particularly with Connolly and Michael Breen vs Casey and Byrne. We've had one shot on goal in 140 mins which in itself is worrying.
Thought our Full back line was poor, Eoin Ryan and Murphy are still young and will learn hopefully, neither could handle Morris, but Donohue, I really don't want to be coming on here and calling out players considering the effort they all put in, but I think Rossiter needs to move on.
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 175 - 02/02/2025 18:58:26
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As in beat Westmeath or Laois in the final?
I'm not sure." Why would you expect them to? There's lads there making their first ever Senior start in a Wexford shirt FFS. This is the time to see can some of those lads make the step up to League level. Championship is another step up again.
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I don't think anybody has said anything to contrary to that recently to be honest. Everyone knows we've regressed and Lost key players. People have been very positive about some underage teams alright.
In terms of Leinster Kilkenny are good alright but I don't see anyone else as being miles ahead at all.
Nobody in Wexford is looking beyond Leinster.
Regarding the league it's the same. We all knew we'd be under pressure. Most of us said that last year.
No team would come out flying if they were as depleted as we are currently.
I do agree about Rory though. He's one of the best hurlers in the country but he absolutely has to find a way to control his aggression.
We'll be under pressure again today. I can live with losing. What I'm looking for is a massively increased work rate." Workrate was much better
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14472 - 02/02/2025 19:26:58
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Lifeless game tbh
Six-point loss a fair enough reflection in the end, don't know how much of it was because we were better than last week (A very low benchmark to pass) and how much of it was because Tipperary aren't at Cork's level
At least we could point out some positives today, Jack Redmond, Connal Flood, and Richie Lawlor showed well IMO. I didn't get the decision to take off Flood, he was at least causing Tipperary problems. Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche made some decent enough contributions off the bench too, they're not really ready to contribute at this level yet but if we don't get any more players back next week, I'd rather see them start than some of our other starters today
Our forwards can't win ball for love nor money, Chin will have to play in the half-forward line when he comes back
Don't know what the deal is with Cian Molloy or Eoin Whelan, guessing they must be injured given how a lot of the other younger players are getting gametime
Think it's all about getting to championship now without shipping too many heavy beatings and hopefully getting some more experience for these younger players and getting the more experienced players back. In an ideal world, you'd blood in a few young players alongside a strong, experienced core of a team but unfortunately, we have to throw them all in at the deep end right now
Don't want to be in the business of making excuses as people never believe you no matter how valid the excuses are but it's not so much the number of players we are missing right now but rather the players we are missing. Not every player needs to be a skyscraper but you need a few on the team and we have no height at the moment, Chin, Mac, Rory, and Jippo wouldn't hurt us from a height perspective. Add those four to the two Recks and you're talking about six of our best hurlers really
Our biggest problem though is that you take the six best hurlers off Cork, Clare, or Limerick and they'd still be capable of hurling a lot better than us right now, we're too top-heavy at the moment" Thought Redmond and Darren Codd did well in their 1st ever Senior starts. I get what you are saying about Molloy and Whelan, but I'd add Dundon and Kehoe to that also. Lawlor did fairly well at 7 in fairness, but Dooley and Charlie still hang on to the ball too long . Their general decision making isn't great, although in fairness they both have a goodbit of bite to their play, and Dooley had his best game in a few years. Charlie's 2 wides with feet planted and no Tipp player near him were poor though. Lack of end product and repeatedly turning into traffic are still problems.
Other positives for me were Dwyer and Jacko coming on and covering ground, Jacko dropped a ball in the penalty area which I'd count as a good goal chance missed, Casey did likewise. Seamus is a great hurler but lacks size and physicality and inner dog for intercounty, I fear a great club hurler is his ceiling.
Nice to see Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche get a run, and CBD was better than last week too.
It would be nice to see us get our 1st League win of the yeat next weekend all the same.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14472 - 02/02/2025 19:38:33
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Lifeless game tbh
Six-point loss a fair enough reflection in the end, don't know how much of it was because we were better than last week (A very low benchmark to pass) and how much of it was because Tipperary aren't at Cork's level
At least we could point out some positives today, Jack Redmond, Connal Flood, and Richie Lawlor showed well IMO. I didn't get the decision to take off Flood, he was at least causing Tipperary problems. Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche made some decent enough contributions off the bench too, they're not really ready to contribute at this level yet but if we don't get any more players back next week, I'd rather see them start than some of our other starters today
Our forwards can't win ball for love nor money, Chin will have to play in the half-forward line when he comes back
Don't know what the deal is with Cian Molloy or Eoin Whelan, guessing they must be injured given how a lot of the other younger players are getting gametime
Think it's all about getting to championship now without shipping too many heavy beatings and hopefully getting some more experience for these younger players and getting the more experienced players back. In an ideal world, you'd blood in a few young players alongside a strong, experienced core of a team but unfortunately, we have to throw them all in at the deep end right now
Don't want to be in the business of making excuses as people never believe you no matter how valid the excuses are but it's not so much the number of players we are missing right now but rather the players we are missing. Not every player needs to be a skyscraper but you need a few on the team and we have no height at the moment, Chin, Mac, Rory, and Jippo wouldn't hurt us from a height perspective. Add those four to the two Recks and you're talking about six of our best hurlers really
Our biggest problem though is that you take the six best hurlers off Cork, Clare, or Limerick and they'd still be capable of hurling a lot better than us right now, we're too top-heavy at the moment" Thought Redmond and Darren Codd did well in their 1st ever Senior starts. I get what you are saying about Molloy and Whelan, but I'd add Dundon and Kehoe to that also. Lawlor did fairly well at 7 in fairness, but Dooley and Charlie still hang on to the ball too long . Their general decision making isn't great, although in fairness they both have a goodbit of bite to their play, and Dooley had his best game in a few years. Charlie's 2 wides with feet planted and no Tipp player near him were poor though. Lack of end product and repeatedly turning into traffic are still problems.
Other positives for me were Dwyer and Jacko coming on and covering ground, Jacko dropped a ball in the penalty area which I'd count as a good goal chance missed, Casey did likewise. Seamus is a great hurler but lacks size and physicality and inner dog for intercounty, I fear a great club hurler is his ceiling.
Nice to see Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche get a run, and CBD was better than last week too.
It would be nice to see us get our 1st League win of the yeat next weekend all the same.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14472 - 02/02/2025 19:38:42
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Lifeless game tbh
Six-point loss a fair enough reflection in the end, don't know how much of it was because we were better than last week (A very low benchmark to pass) and how much of it was because Tipperary aren't at Cork's level
At least we could point out some positives today, Jack Redmond, Connal Flood, and Richie Lawlor showed well IMO. I didn't get the decision to take off Flood, he was at least causing Tipperary problems. Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche made some decent enough contributions off the bench too, they're not really ready to contribute at this level yet but if we don't get any more players back next week, I'd rather see them start than some of our other starters today
Our forwards can't win ball for love nor money, Chin will have to play in the half-forward line when he comes back
Don't know what the deal is with Cian Molloy or Eoin Whelan, guessing they must be injured given how a lot of the other younger players are getting gametime
Think it's all about getting to championship now without shipping too many heavy beatings and hopefully getting some more experience for these younger players and getting the more experienced players back. In an ideal world, you'd blood in a few young players alongside a strong, experienced core of a team but unfortunately, we have to throw them all in at the deep end right now
Don't want to be in the business of making excuses as people never believe you no matter how valid the excuses are but it's not so much the number of players we are missing right now but rather the players we are missing. Not every player needs to be a skyscraper but you need a few on the team and we have no height at the moment, Chin, Mac, Rory, and Jippo wouldn't hurt us from a height perspective. Add those four to the two Recks and you're talking about six of our best hurlers really
Our biggest problem though is that you take the six best hurlers off Cork, Clare, or Limerick and they'd still be capable of hurling a lot better than us right now, we're too top-heavy at the moment" Thought Redmond and Darren Codd did well in their 1st ever Senior starts. I get what you are saying about Molloy and Whelan, but I'd add Dundon and Kehoe to that also. Lawlor did fairly well at 7 in fairness, but Dooley and Charlie still hang on to the ball too long . Their general decision making isn't great, although in fairness they both have a goodbit of bite to their play, and Dooley had his best game in a few years. Charlie's 2 wides with feet planted and no Tipp player near him were poor though. Lack of end product and repeatedly turning into traffic are still problems.
Other positives for me were Dwyer and Jacko coming on and covering ground, Jacko dropped a ball in the penalty area which I'd count as a good goal chance missed, Casey did likewise. Seamus is a great hurler but lacks size and physicality and inner dog for intercounty, I fear a great club hurler is his ceiling.
Nice to see Cillian Byrne and Simon Roche get a run, and CBD was better than last week too.
Fanning puckouts still an issue also.
It would be nice to see us get our 1st League win of the yeat next weekend all the same.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14472 - 02/02/2025 19:39:03
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Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 02/02/2025 20:14:37
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Replying To OpenStandWall: "Tipperary were poor enough themselves I thought, considering they put 3-25 up last week, they hit awful wides.
Big problem for us today I thought was too many lads drifted in and out of the game, Hearne was probably our best player, Lawlor did well. The height issue reared its head particularly with Connolly and Michael Breen vs Casey and Byrne. We've had one shot on goal in 140 mins which in itself is worrying.
Thought our Full back line was poor, Eoin Ryan and Murphy are still young and will learn hopefully, neither could handle Morris, but Donohue, I really don't want to be coming on here and calling out players considering the effort they all put in, but I think Rossiter needs to move on." I dunno about the full-back line, the starting six forwards for Tipp scored 0-05 from play between them so I don't think that's where we lost the game
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