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Replying To Viking66:  "There's plenty behind him, just not many who look outstanding yet. But then hw didnt look as great as he is now til he was 24/5 himself.
All the lads on our Senior team played on underage teams that routinely beat teams from the middle tier counties on the way up. Our minors and u20s beat Dublins this year, and the u20s have often beaten them over the last few years..
We have 10 lads in the 21/22 age group or younger picked for tomorrow, 6 starting and 4 on the bench. That's way more than the so called experimental Kilkenny team have tomorrow. Most of those lads played on the u20 team that came very close to beating the only good Offaly team Offaly had in years too in a Leinster final.
Yes it was a disappointing year, but some of the comments like "arrest our decline" are way over the top. We aren't declining, we are pretty much where we always were. We need to up our game and start competing with the better counties more consistently, not arrest any decline."
That's the problem Viking we are always staying the same, and when you stay the same you get overtaken, Offaly have already made huge ground on us and there potential is a lot better than ours. Chin mightn't have been as good when he was that age, but had all the physical attributes to be.

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 279 - 24/05/2025 13:44:38    2612026

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""Take Laois, Westmeath and Carlow. They were all promoted in the last few years but subsequently went straight back down to the Joe Mac. It would be great for hurling if the likes of Kildare or any of the above named teams could manage to stay up but realistically it won't happen."

Two years ago, Westmeath were very close to staying up, with Wexford being relegated."
They didnt stay up though?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 809 - 24/05/2025 13:48:35    2612027

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Replying To WexMurph:  "That's the problem Viking we are always staying the same, and when you stay the same you get overtaken, Offaly have already made huge ground on us and there potential is a lot better than ours. Chin mightn't have been as good when he was that age, but had all the physical attributes to be."
Agree and cant see the sence in not picking panel members tommoroow with a view to the future what will we learn putting out more or less the same team tommorow except to say we bet a kilkenny team again so what we are still winning nothing every year and its the same at the start of every year on here we should reach a leinster final minimum but once the year starts then its much the same team again and we dont qualify and wonder why?Keep doing the same things and expect diffetent results madness.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 371 - 24/05/2025 14:10:22    2612030

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""Take Laois, Westmeath and Carlow. They were all promoted in the last few years but subsequently went straight back down to the Joe Mac. It would be great for hurling if the likes of Kildare or any of the above named teams could manage to stay up but realistically it won't happen."

Two years ago, Westmeath were very close to staying up, with Wexford being relegated."
Bit of a freak result though, Westmeath weren't remotely competitive in any other game that year and we bottled it having been 17 points up

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 24/05/2025 14:30:42    2612036

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Replying To WexMurph:  "That's the problem Viking we are always staying the same, and when you stay the same you get overtaken, Offaly have already made huge ground on us and there potential is a lot better than ours. Chin mightn't have been as good when he was that age, but had all the physical attributes to be."
They beat us by two points in 2022 and they had worse teams than us prior that and looking at Minor, their teams to come are worse than us too

Not that we're the benchmark to be using but still, just because we're not winning All-Irelands at under-age doesn't mean we're destined for Joe McDonagh in the long-run

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 24/05/2025 14:34:21    2612037

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Agree and cant see the sence in not picking panel members tommoroow with a view to the future what will we learn putting out more or less the same team tommorow except to say we bet a kilkenny team again so what we are still winning nothing every year and its the same at the start of every year on here we should reach a leinster final minimum but once the year starts then its much the same team again and we dont qualify and wonder why?Keep doing the same things and expect diffetent results madness."
The reason Rossie is going with a strong team tomorrow is so we can end on a high in front of the local support. He knows Kilkenny will be very experimental and if we were to give a load of panel members a run we might get a mauling from their second string.
I suppose looking at it from a different perspective
as we the loyal supporters are forking out €25.00 we deserve to see a game of some quality.
Tomorrow's match might not be the right time for us to throw out too many inexperienced lads.
Its all about next year now and getting the panel ready for what looks like being another tough time.
Let's hope Viking is right and we will get the younger players stepping up a few levels. Because that is what's required if we are going anywhere.
Kilkenny have some decent first team players on the bench so they will probably be brought on as the game progresses
Its a game of no importance sadly so we may as well go along and enjoy it for what it's worth.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 24/05/2025 15:02:26    2612040

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10 muns of the minor game I turned it off after frustration.

It's like watching the seniors, terrible wides, running through traffic, loose marking snd puck outs straight to Limerick player.

You'd hear about the good work done underage...imagine how bad we'd be if no work was being done.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 415 - 24/05/2025 16:15:13    2612056

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "I would imagine OBrien will start and Ryan back to no.6. Think Padraig Devereux who's named at 6 is out injured for tomorrow so that'll probably line up. Would like to see Ryan start 11 and O'Brien at 10 or 14 would I'd say they'll ever to Ryan back at 6 in for Devereux. Best of luck of to them. Seen Limerick a few times and they're not a vintage side by any measure so should be an even game and give them every chance."
That 'not a vintage side by any measure' is making this look easy so far. Wexford struggling all over the field although a mini comeback has commenced. Let's hope it continues as we don't need a big beating here today

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 271 - 24/05/2025 16:18:41    2612058

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Replying To WEXILE:  "10 muns of the minor game I turned it off after frustration.

It's like watching the seniors, terrible wides, running through traffic, loose marking snd puck outs straight to Limerick player.

You'd hear about the good work done underage...imagine how bad we'd be if no work was being done."
What good work? There is none.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 809 - 24/05/2025 16:31:57    2612060

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Replying To WEXILE:  "10 muns of the minor game I turned it off after frustration.

It's like watching the seniors, terrible wides, running through traffic, loose marking snd puck outs straight to Limerick player.

You'd hear about the good work done underage...imagine how bad we'd be if no work was being done."
Don't forget conceding stupid frees too

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 271 - 24/05/2025 16:34:37    2612062

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "They beat us by two points in 2022 and they had worse teams than us prior that and looking at Minor, their teams to come are worse than us too

Not that we're the benchmark to be using but still, just because we're not winning All-Irelands at under-age doesn't mean we're destined for Joe McDonagh in the long-run"
Yes but they've a core bunch of quality players who will be on there senior team for the next ten years

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 279 - 24/05/2025 17:06:43    2612070

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Poor result in the minor, bad second half, missed two really good goal changes in the second half. Tbh there not a whole lot between those two teams.limerick deserved to win today thought. Don't know why we always start bad, went 9 to 2 down after 16/17 minutes.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1148 - 24/05/2025 17:18:42    2612073

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Replying To Purpleandgold72:  "That 'not a vintage side by any measure' is making this look easy so far. Wexford struggling all over the field although a mini comeback has commenced. Let's hope it continues as we don't need a big beating here today"
Poor year at minor. Some poor beatings this year and tbh most of our good play came when games were already lost and made some bit of fight back at stages but every team bar Dublin and Laois we've played have basically destroyed us in a 10/15 minute purple patch and have the game won or completely out of reach, the Kilkenny game, the two Galway games, Limerick. You'd say something about it happening once but 4 times, you'd start to wonder about in game management from the line and some of the players too. Never killed any momentum and had a bit of cuteness to take the sting out of it for a few mins. One positive to take is they never gave up and tried hard but just lack a bit of quality. Terrible shooting at times, crazy shot selection. Some good lads in it though. O'Brien had one of his quieter games over last two years, wonder was he still not over his injury. Hard luck and hopefully a more positive future for them.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 24/05/2025 17:20:53    2612076

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Replying To hunting:  "Poor result in the minor, bad second half, missed two really good goal changes in the second half. Tbh there not a whole lot between those two teams.limerick deserved to win today thought. Don't know why we always start bad, went 9 to 2 down after 16/17 minutes."
We don't have any contact in our warm ups doesn't help. Same with the Seniors and u20s. If you lose a game by 4 and give your opponents a 5 or 6 point lead after the 1st quarter that's the losing of that game right there.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 24/05/2025 17:20:55    2612077

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Replying To Magpie2:  "The reason Rossie is going with a strong team tomorrow is so we can end on a high in front of the local support. He knows Kilkenny will be very experimental and if we were to give a load of panel members a run we might get a mauling from their second string.
I suppose looking at it from a different perspective
as we the loyal supporters are forking out €25.00 we deserve to see a game of some quality.
Tomorrow's match might not be the right time for us to throw out too many inexperienced lads.
Its all about next year now and getting the panel ready for what looks like being another tough time.
Let's hope Viking is right and we will get the younger players stepping up a few levels. Because that is what's required if we are going anywhere.
Kilkenny have some decent first team players on the bench so they will probably be brought on as the game progresses
Its a game of no importance sadly so we may as well go along and enjoy it for what it's worth."
We have a far younger team and panel named than Kilkenny have for tomorrow

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 24/05/2025 17:22:36    2612080

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That was absolutely awful to watch. Comprehensively beaten as they have been in most matches this year. Lacking in so many of the basics of the game…striking, tackling and our athleticism/mobility so poor

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 24/05/2025 17:22:53    2612081

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Replying To WexMurph:  "Yes but they've a core bunch of quality players who will be on there senior team for the next ten years"
Well said Murph, some of the comments here are out of order, this is 17 year old lads, can adults commenting here please have some sense of a duty of care. To my viewing the game was lost between the 5 and 20 minutes when we allowed Limerick build a lead we struggled and ultimately did not close. I'm of course disappointed BUT was impressed with the skills and ability of the Wexford players, it underscored again for me the heights that even u17 hurling is reaching. We have in this group many fine, strong, big and committed hurlers. They played to the final whistle and 'died with their boots on' - tough that this is the end of the road for this group but hopefully many will be back next year and others can progress to u20 and in time the senior ranks.

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 104 - 24/05/2025 17:23:47    2612082

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Replying To WEXILE:  "10 muns of the minor game I turned it off after frustration.

It's like watching the seniors, terrible wides, running through traffic, loose marking snd puck outs straight to Limerick player.

You'd hear about the good work done underage...imagine how bad we'd be if no work was being done."
Set up was poor, especially in the 1st half. Limerick had the freedom of the middle 3rd. We shouldve took our points down the home stretch, started dropping in scoreable frees too early looking for goals. If we'd of taken those 5 or 6 points we'd of only been 2 or 3 down coming into the last couple minutes of injury time.
On the plus side we finished very strong in general play, we were well on top in the last quarter and the lads showed great fight. Some of these lads will make good u20s, and hopefully Seniors, down the line.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 24/05/2025 17:26:18    2612085

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Replying To Viking66:  "Set up was poor, especially in the 1st half. Limerick had the freedom of the middle 3rd. We shouldve took our points down the home stretch, started dropping in scoreable frees too early looking for goals. If we'd of taken those 5 or 6 points we'd of only been 2 or 3 down coming into the last couple minutes of injury time.
On the plus side we finished very strong in general play, we were well on top in the last quarter and the lads showed great fight. Some of these lads will make good u20s, and hopefully Seniors, down the line."
Good post vikings, I taught overall in general play we were two or three points off them

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1148 - 24/05/2025 17:40:02    2612097

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Replying To hunting:  "Poor result in the minor, bad second half, missed two really good goal changes in the second half. Tbh there not a whole lot between those two teams.limerick deserved to win today thought. Don't know why we always start bad, went 9 to 2 down after 16/17 minutes."
It was actually 10-2 after 13 mins

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 271 - 24/05/2025 17:43:12    2612100

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