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Replying To Temple56: "Would this mean Dublin would have to play two games in Parnell Park???" Of course but we all know that won't happen DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 301 - 04/05/2023 16:34:11 2475742 Link
Replying To KnockaineyAbú: "This fad of playing in CP is a nonsense. For example, FA Cup first or second round games aren't played at Wembley are they?" No but the semi finals are. Only the Leinster semi finals and final are played in Croke Park. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 04/05/2023 17:44:30 2475764 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Last year's move by the CCCC to try and cash in on the "everyone wants Croke Park" belief backfired with less than 15k at the Ros/Clare and Mayo/Kildare double header. They were knock out games. Group games especially if they're only sorting out 2nd/3rds won't fill many of the 82,300 spaces in Croke Park." There was over 70,000 at the Armagh v Galway and Kerry v Mayo double bill. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 04/05/2023 17:46:41 2475765 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "There was over 70,000 at the Armagh v Galway and Kerry v Mayo double bill." Don't be confusing him with facts .... BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 05/05/2023 09:50:59 2475830 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "There was over 70,000 at the Armagh v Galway and Kerry v Mayo double bill." One swallow never made a summer…!!!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 05/05/2023 10:08:23 2475835 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "There was over 70,000 at the Armagh v Galway and Kerry v Mayo double bill." They were knock out games Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1960 - 05/05/2023 11:48:38 2475875 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "No but the semi finals are. Only the Leinster semi finals and final are played in Croke Park." I meant the All-Ireland Qualifier games. Why are so many of them played in CP? I think the powers that be have this strange fascination with games being played in half or three-quarter empty stadiums KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 05/05/2023 11:49:13 2475876 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "No but the semi finals are. Only the Leinster semi finals and final are played in Croke Park." Back in the 2000s we were told that it wouldn't justify playing in Croke Park if attendances were under 35k. Has everyone forgotten that? KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 05/05/2023 11:50:40 2475878 Link
Cavan London fixed for Wembley Calving4Sam (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 06/05/2023 10:30:17 2476024 Link
Replying To Calving4Sam: "Cavan London fixed for Wembley" That's one to look forward to. Being played on April 1. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2300 - 06/05/2023 11:29:12 2476040 Link
Replying To endgame: "That's one to look forward to. Being played on April 1." Well I never! Calving4Sam (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 06/05/2023 13:02:39 2476067 Link
Replying To Temple56: "After the draw this afternoon we know that round 3 will be held in neutral venues. I have had a stab at choosing the venues. Of course Croke Park will be used for at least 2 games but I have not picked Croke Park for any of the games as I have gone with stand alone fixtures to fill stadiums and create a better atmosphere. This fixtures also depend on how wins provincial finals over the next 2 weeks. I have predicted that all 4 favorites will win them. (Galway, Kerry, Dublin and Derry) Kerry VS Louth - O'Moore Park, Portlaoise - Capacity: 22,000 Mayo VS Cork - TUS Gaelic Grounds - Capacity: 44,000 Tyrone VS Westmeath - Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, Carrick-on-Shannon - Capacity: 10,000 Galway VS Armagh - Breffni Park, Cavan - Capacity: 25,000 Dublin VS Sligo - Dr. Hyde Park, Roscommon - Capacity: 19,000 Roscommon VS Kildare - O Connor Park, Tullamore - Capacity: 18,000 Derry VS Clare - MacHale Park, Castlebar - Capacity: 26,000 Monaghan VS Donegal - Healy Park, Omagh - Capacity: 18,000 Imagine the atmospheres that we could get at some of these games!!!" Personally thought Tyrone vs Westmeath would be Breffni Park, Cavan. But your guess is as good as mine The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2092 - 06/05/2023 17:25:49 2476118 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Personally thought Tyrone vs Westmeath would be Breffni Park, Cavan. But your guess is as good as mine" I agree, but I put it in Carrick because I had put Galway/Armagh in Cavan. I'd say all games will be played at the same time to insure no dead rubbers Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 516 - 22/05/2023 18:56:59 2480673 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I agree, but I put it in Carrick because I had put Galway/Armagh in Cavan. I'd say all games will be played at the same time to insure no dead rubbers" I would say the same day and time for the 2 matches in each group. They will have to mix it up on Saturday and Sunday to ensure they have enough stewards for each game, as every county is playing in away (neutral) grounds. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 633 - 23/05/2023 10:37:28 2480797 Link
Replying To Temple56: "After the draw this afternoon we know that round 3 will be held in neutral venues. I have had a stab at choosing the venues. Of course Croke Park will be used for at least 2 games but I have not picked Croke Park for any of the games as I have gone with stand alone fixtures to fill stadiums and create a better atmosphere. This fixtures also depend on how wins provincial finals over the next 2 weeks. I have predicted that all 4 favorites will win them. (Galway, Kerry, Dublin and Derry) Kerry VS Louth - O'Moore Park, Portlaoise - Capacity: 22,000 Mayo VS Cork - TUS Gaelic Grounds - Capacity: 44,000 Tyrone VS Westmeath - Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, Carrick-on-Shannon - Capacity: 10,000 Galway VS Armagh - Breffni Park, Cavan - Capacity: 25,000 Dublin VS Sligo - Dr. Hyde Park, Roscommon - Capacity: 19,000 Roscommon VS Kildare - O Connor Park, Tullamore - Capacity: 18,000 Derry VS Clare - MacHale Park, Castlebar - Capacity: 26,000 Monaghan VS Donegal - Healy Park, Omagh - Capacity: 18,000 Imagine the atmospheres that we could get at some of these games!!!" You being a bit optimistic there Kerry VS Louth - you'd be better off in Navan - Kerry fans aren't going travelling for that one Mayo VS Cork - Ennis - the Cork minibus won't be full either Tyrone VS Westmeath - Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, Carrick-on-Shannon - good shout Galway VS Armagh - Breffni Park, Cavan - dito Dublin VS Sligo - Dr. Hyde Park, Roscommon - decent shout Roscommon VS Kildare - O Connor Park, Tullamore - will be jammers Derry VS Clare - MacHale Park, Castlebar - better off in Sligo Monaghan VS Donegal - Healy Park, Omagh - jammers also tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 24/05/2023 06:34:24 2481115 Link
I'm not a fan of neutral games as much as possible. 4 groups of 5 would give 2 home games each. In groups of 4, home advantage for the final round could be determined by the number of years without an extra home game in the previous 3 years. 111 - no extra home game in 3 years. 110 - no extra home game in 2 years. 101 - no extra home game in 1 year and previously 2 years. 100 - no extra home game in 1 year. 011 - an extra game in the previous year and no extra home game in the previous 2 years. 010 - an extra game in the previous year and no extra home game in the previous year before that. 001 - an extra home game in the previous 2 years. 000 - an extra home game in the previous 3 years. Dublin Seed 1 v Mayo Seed 2 in Round 3. Dublin 000 v Mayo 001. Mayo awarded home advantage in Round 3. Donegal Seed 3 v Clare Seed 4 in Round 3. Donegal 110 v Clare 101. Donegal awarded home advantage in Round 3. If the final round pairings had the same no extra game rating e.g. 110 v 110, the higher seed can be awarded home advantage in Round 3. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8291 - 24/05/2023 13:03:28 2481221 Link
For the round 3 games I hope they don't lump them into CP. The only thing worse than a half empty CP, is a half empty CP when its a double header, it does the game no service. Personally i think more games should be outside CP including QFs and even SFs. I've been to my fair share of big games, and a few soccer matches with Ireland and I still say that the SF down in Limerick (Mayo v Kerry 2014 replay) was the best atmosphere I ever experienced - even if the result didn't go our way. I think Keegan said the same recently. But easy for me to say here on my keyboard... if the players want to play in CP... I'm hardly in a position to tell them No! Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 332 - 24/05/2023 14:47:21 2481273 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: "You being a bit optimistic there Kerry VS Louth - you'd be better off in Navan - Kerry fans aren't going travelling for that one Mayo VS Cork - Ennis - the Cork minibus won't be full either Tyrone VS Westmeath - Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, Carrick-on-Shannon - good shout Galway VS Armagh - Breffni Park, Cavan - dito Dublin VS Sligo - Dr. Hyde Park, Roscommon - decent shout Roscommon VS Kildare - O Connor Park, Tullamore - will be jammers Derry VS Clare - MacHale Park, Castlebar - better off in Sligo Monaghan VS Donegal - Healy Park, Omagh - jammers also" Sligo won't get two games in Roscommon as playing them in our away game there. Judging by the double headers in round three of Tailteann Cup I wouldn't be surprised if we see one or two double headers too for All Ireland series with two groups finishing on Saturday and two on Sunday. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 428 - 24/05/2023 15:13:10 2481293 Link
Replying To Sligoman1234: "Sligo won't get two games in Roscommon as playing them in our away game there. Judging by the double headers in round three of Tailteann Cup I wouldn't be surprised if we see one or two double headers too for All Ireland series with two groups finishing on Saturday and two on Sunday." I'd imagine HQ would love 2 well attended double headers in Croker but that's hardly realistic for Group games. Sligo/Dublin in Breffni one day, Tyrone Westmeath there next day perhaps. Tullamore the obvious choice for Ros/Kildare . Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1960 - 24/05/2023 16:36:58 2481333 Link
My guess for the venues of the round 3 games. Monaghan v Donegal - Brewster Park Dublin v Sligo - Breffni Park Roscommon v Kildare - O'Connor Park Galway v Armagh - Carrick on Shannon Tyrone v Westmeath - Navan Kerry v Louth - O'Moore Park Cork v Mayo - Ennis Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3492 - 24/05/2023 17:11:44 2481343 Link