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After the draw this afternoon we know that round 3 will be held in neutral venues. I have had a stab at choosing the venues. Of course Croke Park will be used for at least 2 games but I have not picked Croke Park for any of the games as I have gone with stand alone fixtures to fill stadiums and create a better atmosphere. This fixtures also depend on how wins provincial finals over the next 2 weeks. I have predicted that all 4 favorites will win them. (Galway, Kerry, Dublin and Derry) Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 516 - 02/05/2023 15:00:54 2475120 Link 3 |
Even though I live in Dublin, it would be great if the vast majority of the round three matches were played in rural towns. Less travelling for supporters and not stuck in Dublin traffic. The rural towns could certainly do with the extra business. For example playing the Dublin v Sligo match or the Galway v Armagh match in Roscommon would go down well in Roscommon town. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 633 - 02/05/2023 15:24:16 2475139 Link 1 |
Id imagine that there will be a double header in Croker at some stage for these neutral clashes Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 02/05/2023 15:24:32 2475141 Link 0 |
You'd imagine the only chance of a double header in Croke Park would be Dublin v Sligo and Galway v Armagh / Derry. With 3 teams progressing from a group it means both games will have meaning on the final day so both games would need to be played at the same time to make it fair.
if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 02/05/2023 22:53:33 2475279 Link 1 |
Whilst I completely agree with you, it's nonsensical to have any of these games in a half empty Croke Park, but it's inevitable there will be a Double header somewhere. There's plenty of provincial grounds all over the country capable of hosting big games. hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 03/05/2023 11:17:31 2475354 Link 0 |
Think it's disgraceful that the best team in the championship gets 2 home games while every other team gets one. centrefield99 (Galway) - Posts: 136 - 03/05/2023 12:13:19 2475372 Link 1 |
Good point. They are not going to hold two games from same group at different times.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 03/05/2023 12:15:00 2475373 Link 0 |
Whats the " dublin season ticket holder argument"? Every other county has season ticket holders and they dont expect that to mean that they play so called neutral venue games at home.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 955 - 03/05/2023 12:23:44 2475375 Link 1 |
There should be a term and condition that it does not guarantee entry into all home grounds.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8291 - 03/05/2023 13:09:40 2475389 Link 0 |
Probably a question for another thread but there will likely be dead rubbers by the neutral venue round. Would they not have been better off have 3 groups of 5 with 2 home and 2 away games each. dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 03/05/2023 13:13:50 2475391 Link 0 |
Don't think it's an argument any more. The season ticket only guarantees you a ticket subject to availability. It has led to issues with Dublin season ticket holders not getting tickets to some games previously, such as away games at smaller venues in the old super six. Omagh was a prime example.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4734 - 03/05/2023 13:25:28 2475400 Link 1 |
It's that every season ticket holder is supposed to be able to buy a stand ticket for a championship match if they want to. Means that if there are 5,000 season ticket holders (for example), you can't put the match in a venue with a stand that holds less than 5,000 people. Or realistically, less than probably 5,500 people, because certain others such as sponsors, Provincial Council and County Board officials, etc., would have to be accommodated there too. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 03/05/2023 13:28:58 2475402 Link 1 |
There is no "Dublin season ticket" argument. More invented nonsense. Last I heard Dublin and Mayo had the most, which is was then 3,500. Which was the 2021 limit on the number any county could have. The amount of stuff people make up to justify their hatred of Dublin is mind boggling at times. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 03/05/2023 13:29:13 2475403 Link 2 |
It is never going to be an issue in any ground that holds more than 6,000. Check it out. The actual facts i mean rather than the makey up stuff.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 03/05/2023 13:33:26 2475407 Link 1 |
Actually, this is interesting. There's a line in the T&Cs of season tickets that says: Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 03/05/2023 13:39:32 2475411 Link 0 |
I think there just has to be a firm and rigid line in the sand drawn. If Dublin nominate Croke Park as their home venue for any game in a year (league/championship) Croke Park then cannot be considered a neutral venue for them for the remainder of that year. I understand having Croker used for Leinster finals, all Ireland semi finals and finals, but Dublin playing such a majority of their games there, their fans having to travel the least, familiarity etc.. undermines the integrity of the competitions they're in. Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 03/05/2023 14:16:02 2475420 Link 2 |
Sligo fans would prefer travelling to Dublin than travelling to Roscommon. Let's be honest, Dublin against Sligo will be a blow out so at least a day out for the supporters in Croke Park would be better than being hammered and been in Roscommon muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 460 - 03/05/2023 14:29:15 2475425 Link 2 |
I think that's a very common sense suggestion. If they choose themselves to nominate it as a home venue for one day, they can't expect it to then be declared a neutral venue on another day. Would be up to themselves to make the call on it, and they couldn't blame anybody else.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 03/05/2023 14:39:30 2475428 Link 2 |
Good point. I don't think the Dublin season ticket holders would be the main priority. Premium seat holders would be the main priority. Some people would reduce Croke Park to being little more than an ornament.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 03/05/2023 14:43:14 2475431 Link 1 |
Forgive my ignorance, and going slightly off topic. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 03/05/2023 15:01:06 2475436 Link 0 |