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If this years match is half as good we are in for some spectacle at a packed out Gaelic grounds. The attendances and the colour in most games has added massively to the cship. I was worried Limerick would hammer all before them this year but it has made the year that they haven't - even if they may still win all before them. This is going to be a tasty Munster final and I'm sure there'll be some bit of controversy to add to it as well! All we need now is for this weather to stick around! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/05/2023 15:21:34 2482940 Link 0 |
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Its been a fantastic Munster Championship to date, the margins between the teams is miniscule. Really looking forward to the Munster final now which is like an added unexpected bonus for us. Its great that its on in the Gaelic Grounds, i was hoping not to have to travel to Cork and that it would be on in Thurles just for convenience but the GG is even better. Clare really must really have not wanted to go to Cork to propose having it there but i think it will suit them in many ways too. Short trip for most of their fans and they have already won there this year and are so familiar with the place. Clare the form team but Limericks form is trending upwards on each performance which is some achievement when you consider the effort all teams are putting in against us. Form will go out the window in this final anyway and I'd be pretty sure there will be nothing between the teams again and it will be impossible to call. Gillane seems to be really coming in to form and with no Conor Cleary that is one area Limerick might be able to exploit. There was a lot of space for our inside line between the 21 and the goal when we played the last time as they had pushed up to give us no space in the middle third, surely there will be a tactic to exploit that this time round if they go the same again. I'm sure Clare will look to deploy TK in a similar manner to inflict as much damage as possible. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 434 - 30/05/2023 16:19:31 2482963 Link 0 |
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Tbh I wouldn't want it changed either. That's why I don't think 4 should go through to the AI series LRH. If they did it would water Munster down by reducing the jeopardy. I still think some of the best games of hurling for drama and excitement I ever saw were the Munster and Leinster games up until 1996. No 2nd chance. No quarter asked or given.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 30/05/2023 17:18:24 2482980 Link 0 |
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Right up there with them for sure!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 30/05/2023 17:19:15 2482981 Link 0 |
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That's it. It's not half the competition if there's no risk or consequences. Look at the weekend we had. At various stages with the live scorelines, we had each of Cork, Limerick and Tipp all exiting the championship as it stood at different times. No matter the format, someone will have a gripe, but I think it's close to as good as it can be currently. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2321 - 30/05/2023 17:56:33 2482996 Link 0 |
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The Gaelic Grounds is in occupied Clare territory so in effect the is a home game for Clare!! ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 30/05/2023 18:19:30 2483003 Link 0 |
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Throw all 10 teams into 1 giant round robin, at the end of round robin top 2 Munster teams play Munster final and top 2 Leinster teams play Leinster final. Next top 2 teams in table qualify for AI qf against losing provincial finalists with provincial winners awaiting in semi-finals. Loads of games, everyone plays each other and we still have provincial finals.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 30/05/2023 21:42:36 2483041 Link 0 |
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No, Cork would have fallen asunder in Croke Park, as they have done consistently for the past fifteen years. Their defending was shocking . As Tony Considine said, in the Irish Examiner today, the Cork team often dilly dallied with the ball too much in defense. As he put it they should attack the ball and get it out quickly. As he said 'this is no place for ball juggling, this is not the circus'. Both Seamus Flanagan and Cathal O'Neill were left totally unmarked for the two goals they scored. Last year both Limerick goals came from similar lapses in Corks defense. Some experts say Cork will win an All Ireland with this team. I just don't see it without a major infusion of new young blood.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 30/05/2023 23:33:00 2483053 Link 0 |
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Darragh is a Limerick man, a first cousin of Ritchie English. If he had opted for Limerick he would have four All Irelands, by now and possibly five, as he just might have made the difference in '19. Damian Cahallane is there since 2013. I just feel Kingston, O'Mahoney, Dalton and Jack Cullinane are not consistent enough to be part of a winning All Ireland side. Many of the '17 Limerick u21 had won four All Irelands before they were 25 and both Kyle Hayes and Peter Casey are not even 25 yet.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 30/05/2023 23:45:24 2483054 Link 0 |
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I reckon its 2019 all over again for Tipp and I think they will win their 29th All Ireland title. Waterford game was a complacency performance. Tipp will certainly lay a glove on Limerick as they showed in Semple Stadium and were the better team except for a few dodgy ref decisions against them especially the foul against Bonnar Maher in the first half when he had put Jake Morris clear in on goal. I fancy Clare to win the Munster final as Cork should also have been Limerick with again another dodgy decision to award a penalty to Limerick which was not a penalty. Tipp now have time to regroup and get back the 6 top class players that they have had to do without through Munster which will make them a completely different animal in the All Ireland series. Premier28 (Tipperary) - Posts: 105 - 31/05/2023 09:46:43 2483071 Link 0 |
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Clare would have bet Tipp out the gate bar the fact they handed them three goals in the first half with bad mistakes and then the black card. Tipp are simply not good enough.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 793 - 31/05/2023 10:07:34 2483077 Link 0 |
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Think so too
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 31/05/2023 10:14:46 2483080 Link 0 |
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Well our panel is now decimated 2 more injuries to add Gearoid O Connor broken ankle and Brian McGrath gone now as well. Branding us not good enough is a low remark in fairness Munster is a tough province to get out of and now the focus is on the all ireland series where anything can happen. Nobody in Tipp is expecting an all Ireland this year and not reaching a munster final is probably a great thing in hindsight because we're not ready for that but now we have a few weeks to reset and go again. Remember Limerick came from no where in 2018 to win the all ireland. Its about timing from here and anything can happen on the day.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 31/05/2023 10:32:21 2483088 Link 0 |
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Never mind. We have that area by conquest. Tis ours by right. We are actually thinking of renaming the Ennis Road Bennis Road.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 31/05/2023 10:58:48 2483096 Link 1 |
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Noone said you don't have a good team. I just dont think you are good enough to win the AI this year is all.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 31/05/2023 11:00:13 2483098 Link 0 |
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Nobody this year convinces me they are 100% the team to beat. Below are my perceived weakness for each team left which gives me a lingering doubt about all of them - 1. Limerick - They are struggling big time to put teams away, maybe it will come good but they haven't won any of their last 8 Championship matches by more than three points and i think at some stage the rub of the green goes against them and they fall just short. 2. Clare - Defence!! I'd be worried about their concession rate. I think its too high to sustain and win an All Ireland. 3. Tipp - I think they lack a marquee, All Ireland winning forward. In 2019 Callanan was on fire. Morris looks good but without Forde i'd be worried the attack is not strong enough. 4. Galway - Straight out hard to trust. While i think their forwards might be better this year i'd fear for McInerney at full back and i think their backs can be got at. Hard to have faith. 5. Kilkenny - Best of the rest after Limerick in my opinion they have a tail but they also have top class players that can almost win games on their own. I think they will be hard to beat. Injuries might catch them. 6. Dublin - Just not enough good hurlers. Athletic and committed but lacking the class to really breakthrough. It will be interesting to see how close they push the beaten Munster Finalists. A good rule of thumb i've learned is that if you are not convinced on who is going to win the All Ireland just back Kilkenny and i think thats what i'll do. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 31/05/2023 11:01:08 2483099 Link 1 |
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I think they are definitely good enough, on their day they can beat anyone and one of their best forwards is yet to return. The only question for me is if they can go back to back to back on consecutive games and physically and mentally stay the course. That will be tough for them as they are more of a hurling than a physical based team at heart. They really should have gone all out to win Munster and made a massive mistake by not being up and tuned in for the Waterford match. Honest question in relation to the Wexford match v KK, why was the stadium not jam packed with Wexford supporters, playing the mighty KK on their own patch in one of the important matches to Wexford since they last won the All Ireland. There was always a likelihood this match was going to be epic. I think the main difference between the Leinster and Munster championships is not the quality on offer or major differences between the teams, but by the appetite to go to matches to support your team. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 434 - 31/05/2023 11:07:50 2483104 Link 0 |
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I'm not expecting us to win it but we'll certainly be good enough to be there or there abouts.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 31/05/2023 11:19:07 2483110 Link 0 |
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You are already there or thereabouts. You are 1 of 6 counties left from the Provincial Championships.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 31/05/2023 12:08:09 2483137 Link 0 |
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I was there and did my best to encourage others to go. Sadly there are people I know who would go to Croke Park to see Wexford but haven't been to Wexford Park since Moses was a child.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 31/05/2023 12:11:09 2483139 Link 0 |