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Replying To theboys: "Paudi Foley couldnt care less about Wexford,only hurled when it suited him,to me people make out he's a huge loss,any forward worth there salt destroyed him,he's not a good defender by any means!!! Real hurling people will see this and all others see the odd long range frees and the odd score from the half backline!!! Better of without him in my view!!! He had a chance to hurl centre back too couldn't do it totally overated" That's the maddest take I've seen here in quiet a while and given some of the stuff posted here this week is some going, do you think these hurlers are bound by contract?
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Regards jack why can't he catch the ball it's like he's waiting for a slap in the back he ducks every time even with his goal last year against Clare he was the same. The man needs to be braver" Nail. Head.
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Regards jack why can't he catch the ball it's like he's waiting for a slap in the back he ducks every time even with his goal last year against Clare he was the same. The man needs to be braver" Too late now anyway, he hasn't got the same toughness as Rory and he's not going to get it at this age.
For a man his size, he hides in matches constantly.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 02/03/2023 16:03:56
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Replying To Purpleandgold72: "Gavin Bailey was informed by Egan a few hours before the Ferns dinner dance that he was off the panel. Then Egan turned up to do the presentation of medals. A tad callous if you ask me. Bailey was worth keeping on the panel too." While I agree that I would have kept Bailey in the panel to imply that he was the only player dropped at that point would be disingenuous, it would be standard to have a panel cut between Walsh Cup and League, just say hypotactically Egan was planning on dropping him but didn't inform him until after the event that would be just as awkward and they could have chatting away about training next week etc. will Egan knowing secretly he wasn't part of the plans. It would have been an awkward 1 either way.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/03/2023 16:30:36
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A fellah not willing to put in the hard training and gym work is no use to you lads. You are better off without such players.
I am all for a training being tailored for the old timers who have done it on these teams (as happened for a few years with Keaney and a few others in Dublin, and TJ etc the same in Kilkenny) but you can't have young lads at u20 believing the hard work and hard yards are for the others. That will just destroy morale from the inside in any camp and if they are the future, they need to give it what they have now.
For such a famous club as Rathnure, why are their players so poor in terms of their commitment to Wexford? As long as I am living in Wexford, I can't remember too many players from this club playing for Wexford, yet they were senior all that time I think? I know Rory Higgins is there now but when did they last have a consistent starter? Paul Codd?
I get that inter county hurling is not for everyone, but training, S&C etc will never be easier than when you are young.
And by the way, I don't agree with the belief that the life of a GAA player has to be a hermit. The "drink ban" culture is responsible for a slew of mental health and other addiction issues across the GAA. Let these lads have a social life I say.
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I see Limerick are off to Portugal on a training camp. Is there any plans for our lads to head off this year ?
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Replying To Afinestick: "I see Limerick are off to Portugal on a training camp. Is there any plans for our lads to head off this year ?" Courtown for ice-cream as punishment for losing to Clare.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 02/03/2023 17:36:29
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "A fellah not willing to put in the hard training and gym work is no use to you lads. You are better off without such players.
I am all for a training being tailored for the old timers who have done it on these teams (as happened for a few years with Keaney and a few others in Dublin, and TJ etc the same in Kilkenny) but you can't have young lads at u20 believing the hard work and hard yards are for the others. That will just destroy morale from the inside in any camp and if they are the future, they need to give it what they have now.
For such a famous club as Rathnure, why are their players so poor in terms of their commitment to Wexford? As long as I am living in Wexford, I can't remember too many players from this club playing for Wexford, yet they were senior all that time I think? I know Rory Higgins is there now but when did they last have a consistent starter? Paul Codd?
I get that inter county hurling is not for everyone, but training, S&C etc will never be easier than when you are young.
And by the way, I don't agree with the belief that the life of a GAA player has to be a hermit. The "drink ban" culture is responsible for a slew of mental health and other addiction issues across the GAA. Let these lads have a social life I say." Hard to know, although the last 10 years haven't been great for Rathnure, there's been a few close shaves with relegation and don't really see that changing either. They won't go down without a fight in classic Rathnure fashion but I've always felt they haven't pushed on with the times as much as other clubs in terms of S&C, they've looked more like a club team from the previous decade in the 00s or 90s. Maybethe lads are happier playing club and s&c doesnt appeal to them. But they've been senior since the Rackards time so can't be too critical of them but they've definitely fell off the map a good bit the last 10 years, they're probably on their longest dry spell without a Final win or appearance even since they came up. Didnt help that the best player theyve produced since the 90s left just before his peak years. Was massive loss to Wexford too and would've been on the team the last few years. Jack guiney.
Happens all clubs though tbf, just look at their old sparing partners Buffers Alley and even Oulart going down (up again but wouldn't rule out them going down again in the coming years)
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Replying To Afinestick: "I see Limerick are off to Portugal on a training camp. Is there any plans for our lads to head off this year ?" I think they're going to Clongeen this weekend.
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 02/03/2023 17:51:12
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "A fellah not willing to put in the hard training and gym work is no use to you lads. You are better off without such players.
I am all for a training being tailored for the old timers who have done it on these teams (as happened for a few years with Keaney and a few others in Dublin, and TJ etc the same in Kilkenny) but you can't have young lads at u20 believing the hard work and hard yards are for the others. That will just destroy morale from the inside in any camp and if they are the future, they need to give it what they have now.
For such a famous club as Rathnure, why are their players so poor in terms of their commitment to Wexford? As long as I am living in Wexford, I can't remember too many players from this club playing for Wexford, yet they were senior all that time I think? I know Rory Higgins is there now but when did they last have a consistent starter? Paul Codd?
I get that inter county hurling is not for everyone, but training, S&C etc will never be easier than when you are young.
And by the way, I don't agree with the belief that the life of a GAA player has to be a hermit. The "drink ban" culture is responsible for a slew of mental health and other addiction issues across the GAA. Let these lads have a social life I say." I would suggest Rathnure don't have anyone next to near the standard of Paul Codd at the minute. Rathnure had a serious talented bunch of players for years, Rackards, Quigleys, Codds, Morrisseys, Houlihan, Conran, etc were all the main men for Wexford in their era. Rathnure were finalists or semi-finalists every second or third year. Rathnure are an average senior team now but I would suggest they are doing well with the resources they have on the field at the minute, will they get to a county final in the next ten years? I think the odds are stacked against the smaller rural clubs like Rathnure at the minute, but it would be great to see them back and contributing to the Wexford team. Rory Higgins etc are young and up and coming players and may well be stars for Wexford in 4-5 years time.
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 02/03/2023 17:58:06
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Replying To Afinestick: "I see Limerick are off to Portugal on a training camp. Is there any plans for our lads to head off this year ?" They are having a 80s music night in Whites Hotel to raise funds for a hurling training fund anyway.
Between that, the €18 admission to a league game most counties aren't taking seriously, the limited edition replica jersey released in time for Christmas, and the various individual fundraising ideas for our clubs (which are far more important), it really is becoming the Grab All Association.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1503 - 02/03/2023 17:59:10
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "A fellah not willing to put in the hard training and gym work is no use to you lads. You are better off without such players.
I am all for a training being tailored for the old timers who have done it on these teams (as happened for a few years with Keaney and a few others in Dublin, and TJ etc the same in Kilkenny) but you can't have young lads at u20 believing the hard work and hard yards are for the others. That will just destroy morale from the inside in any camp and if they are the future, they need to give it what they have now.
For such a famous club as Rathnure, why are their players so poor in terms of their commitment to Wexford? As long as I am living in Wexford, I can't remember too many players from this club playing for Wexford, yet they were senior all that time I think? I know Rory Higgins is there now but when did they last have a consistent starter? Paul Codd?
I get that inter county hurling is not for everyone, but training, S&C etc will never be easier than when you are young.
And by the way, I don't agree with the belief that the life of a GAA player has to be a hermit. The "drink ban" culture is responsible for a slew of mental health and other addiction issues across the GAA. Let these lads have a social life I say." Jack Guiney was a regular enough starter when he was on the panel. Rorys brother Nigel played intercounty also. Currently apart from AJ and Rory Higgins, Sean O Connor and Shane Lawlor are good hurlers. Jack Redmond might be one of the best of our u20s this year and hopefully will be brought on the Senior panel next year.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "This is the sort of comment that I don't think anybody finds particularly helpful or in any way constructive, and it's a real example of what players and managers are referring to when they talk about "anonymous keyboard warriors".
I prefer to keep an eye on this forum rather than the likes of Facebook or Twitter, because in fairness, we don't get much of it around here. But at least on Facebook, people are generally posting under their real names, instead of hiding behind a username." Ah its been a basket case here at times this week, got to a stage where a poster made up lies about minor team losing to Kildare and saying his son was on the team, on that matter tonydoranfan where the hell have you gone?
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "While I agree that I would have kept Bailey in the panel to imply that he was the only player dropped at that point would be disingenuous, it would be standard to have a panel cut between Walsh Cup and League, just say hypotactically Egan was planning on dropping him but didn't inform him until after the event that would be just as awkward and they could have chatting away about training next week etc. will Egan knowing secretly he wasn't part of the plans. It would have been an awkward 1 either way." I also agree that Bailey was unlucky to be dropped and I think he was hard done by. But you make a good point as regards the timing of it.
Even more so when you consider that the Wexford squad were training at something like 9 a.m. on the morning following that Ferns Dinner Dance. If Egan had decided on the Saturday "I'll phone the other lads I'm dropping now to tell them, but I'll leave Gavin out it for now because it would make things awkward tonight", then Bailey would have been having an early night from the dinner dance, maybe without even a drink, all for the sake of a training session the following morning with a squad that he had no future with.
Again, I reckon he's unfortunate to have been dropped, but the timing of that particular one wouldn't have been good either way.
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Replying To Afinestick: "I see Limerick are off to Portugal on a training camp. Is there any plans for our lads to head off this year ?" After last week's terrible performance it's going to be a guided tour of the windmill in Tacumshane.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I also agree that Bailey was unlucky to be dropped and I think he was hard done by. But you make a good point as regards the timing of it.
Even more so when you consider that the Wexford squad were training at something like 9 a.m. on the morning following that Ferns Dinner Dance. If Egan had decided on the Saturday "I'll phone the other lads I'm dropping now to tell them, but I'll leave Gavin out it for now because it would make things awkward tonight", then Bailey would have been having an early night from the dinner dance, maybe without even a drink, all for the sake of a training session the following morning with a squad that he had no future with.
Again, I reckon he's unfortunate to have been dropped, but the timing of that particular one wouldn't have been good either way." We don't know how Bailey was going in training. Maybe he isn't as fully recovered from his ACL injury as he or Alan Ahearne thought. Mentally as well as physically. In the Walsh Cup game he played some of he didn't look bad but didn't look great either.
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Replying To Viking66: "Jack Guiney was a regular enough starter when he was on the panel. Rorys brother Nigel played intercounty also. Currently apart from AJ and Rory Higgins, Sean O Connor and Shane Lawlor are good hurlers. Jack Redmond might be one of the best of our u20s this year and hopefully will be brought on the Senior panel next year." Didn't realise Nigel and Rory are brothers taught they might have been uncle/nephew alright given the age gap.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I also agree that Bailey was unlucky to be dropped and I think he was hard done by. But you make a good point as regards the timing of it.
Even more so when you consider that the Wexford squad were training at something like 9 a.m. on the morning following that Ferns Dinner Dance. If Egan had decided on the Saturday "I'll phone the other lads I'm dropping now to tell them, but I'll leave Gavin out it for now because it would make things awkward tonight", then Bailey would have been having an early night from the dinner dance, maybe without even a drink, all for the sake of a training session the following morning with a squad that he had no future with.
Again, I reckon he's unfortunate to have been dropped, but the timing of that particular one wouldn't have been good either way." That's exactly what I was thinking too, just seemed to me an opportune time for that poster to have a cut.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Didn't realise Nigel and Rory are brothers taught they might have been uncle/nephew alright given the age gap." They are not brothers
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Replying To Viking66: "Jack Guiney was a regular enough starter when he was on the panel. Rorys brother Nigel played intercounty also. Currently apart from AJ and Rory Higgins, Sean O Connor and Shane Lawlor are good hurlers. Jack Redmond might be one of the best of our u20s this year and hopefully will be brought on the Senior panel next year." Are Jack and AJ Redmond related??
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 03/03/2023 11:17:38
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