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But speaking of Rathnure;

Nigel Higgins left the panel when he had a lot more to offer as did Jack Guiney and Paul Codd

All very good hurlers whose inter county careers were cut short too soon.

Hopefully AJ and Jack Redmond can be future stars for Wexford - they looked like the real deal any time Ive seen them

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 03/03/2023 11:22:34    2461545

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "They are not brothers"
What way are Eoin Nigel and Rory related?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 11:27:45    2461546

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Replying To Yellow:  "Are Jack and AJ Redmond related??"
There not brothers anyway, don't know if there cousins.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/03/2023 11:47:59    2461550

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Replying To Yellow:  "But speaking of Rathnure;

Nigel Higgins left the panel when he had a lot more to offer as did Jack Guiney and Paul Codd

All very good hurlers whose inter county careers were cut short too soon.

Hopefully AJ and Jack Redmond can be future stars for Wexford - they looked like the real deal any time Ive seen them"
Ive relations up Rathnure way involved in the Club and they would tell you that theres definitely a bits of a disconnect between the County Board/Team and the Club.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1550 - 03/03/2023 12:07:28    2461553

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Replying To Viking66:  "What way are Eoin Nigel and Rory related?"
Think Eoin and Rory are brothers, didn't expect this thread to become a breakdown of family trees :)

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/03/2023 12:14:17    2461554

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Replying To Viking66:  "What way are Eoin Nigel and Rory related?"
Eoin & Rory are brothers
Their father is Nigels uncle ..
Work that one out in a typical irish relations fashion :-)

This other topic pops up quite a lot - Oulart / Alley / Rathnure have the same issue .. Rural depopulation. None of the mentioned clubs have cut back on their appetite for winning or the work they put in at underage. In reality they have to put in more work to retain the less committed young lads and work harder on the weaker guys.

Last week I was at a meeting in one of the Enniscorthy schools. 750 student school and that is only one of the feeder schools to the Rapps. Rathnure have about 170 in their school - that number was down to 120 ten years ago. Oulart & The Ballagh are no diffferent .. The latest population survey conducted by Wexford GAA showed that from Bunclody to Fethard pretty much all along the Blackstairs, the population had fallen significantly .. Wexford / Gorey had a huge increase in population.

Is there a solution? ... it's not only problem in Wexford unfortunately

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 211 - 03/03/2023 12:17:25    2461555

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I think the most worrying thing is new Ross. Hurling and football is now third and a good friend of mine who hurled underage for wexford was telling me that the club is in real trouble and could really be relegated this year. Rugby has really taken over.

Now ross probably hasn't produced a hurler only eanna Martin other than that who have they since John Nolan. At underage they had to join with cloughbawn and clonard that's shocking for town teams.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 03/03/2023 12:30:09    2461559

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Eoin & Rory are brothers
Their father is Nigels uncle ..
Work that one out in a typical irish relations fashion :-)

This other topic pops up quite a lot - Oulart / Alley / Rathnure have the same issue .. Rural depopulation. None of the mentioned clubs have cut back on their appetite for winning or the work they put in at underage. In reality they have to put in more work to retain the less committed young lads and work harder on the weaker guys.

Last week I was at a meeting in one of the Enniscorthy schools. 750 student school and that is only one of the feeder schools to the Rapps. Rathnure have about 170 in their school - that number was down to 120 ten years ago. Oulart & The Ballagh are no diffferent .. The latest population survey conducted by Wexford GAA showed that from Bunclody to Fethard pretty much all along the Blackstairs, the population had fallen significantly .. Wexford / Gorey had a huge increase in population.

Is there a solution? ... it's not only problem in Wexford unfortunately"
Maybe if they introduced a parent rule? But it would be hard on a Rathnure family living in town to have to drive out the whole time for training etc.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 12:36:52    2461561

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "I think the most worrying thing is new Ross. Hurling and football is now third and a good friend of mine who hurled underage for wexford was telling me that the club is in real trouble and could really be relegated this year. Rugby has really taken over.

Now ross probably hasn't produced a hurler only eanna Martin other than that who have they since John Nolan. At underage they had to join with cloughbawn and clonard that's shocking for town teams."
They actually aren't just a town team are they? Doesn't their catchment area include quite a large area North of the town also?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 13:00:14    2461566

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Eoin & Rory are brothers
Their father is Nigels uncle ..
Work that one out in a typical irish relations fashion :-)

This other topic pops up quite a lot - Oulart / Alley / Rathnure have the same issue .. Rural depopulation. None of the mentioned clubs have cut back on their appetite for winning or the work they put in at underage. In reality they have to put in more work to retain the less committed young lads and work harder on the weaker guys.

Last week I was at a meeting in one of the Enniscorthy schools. 750 student school and that is only one of the feeder schools to the Rapps. Rathnure have about 170 in their school - that number was down to 120 ten years ago. Oulart & The Ballagh are no diffferent .. The latest population survey conducted by Wexford GAA showed that from Bunclody to Fethard pretty much all along the Blackstairs, the population had fallen significantly .. Wexford / Gorey had a huge increase in population.

Is there a solution? ... it's not only problem in Wexford unfortunately"
The solution is to stop voting for political parties who stand over policies which encourage rural depopulation through the planning system.

We are at most 10-15 years away from clubs permanently amalgamating

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 535 - 03/03/2023 13:08:17    2461569

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "I think the most worrying thing is new Ross. Hurling and football is now third and a good friend of mine who hurled underage for wexford was telling me that the club is in real trouble and could really be relegated this year. Rugby has really taken over.

Now ross probably hasn't produced a hurler only eanna Martin other than that who have they since John Nolan. At underage they had to join with cloughbawn and clonard that's shocking for town teams."
Three of their most recent county players across both codes felt it necessary to leave to get game-time for Wexford: Eanna Martin, Shane Roche and Rory Quinlivan. That's hardly the club's fault.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1503 - 03/03/2023 13:31:45    2461575

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Replying To Viking66:  "They actually aren't just a town team are they? Doesn't their catchment area include quite a large area North of the town also?"
In new Ross??? Yes it goes as far as the maudlins then you are into cushinstown area not the point I'm trying to make viking

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 03/03/2023 13:35:40    2461578

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The solution is to stop voting for political parties who stand over policies which encourage rural depopulation through the planning system.

We are at most 10-15 years away from clubs permanently amalgamating"
Spot on. Its a joke how hard it is for someone to build on their own family's land even. And there's no "affordable" housing being built in rural areas either. With the increase in jobs that can be done from home and better fibre broadband being rolled out, even here where I am!!!!, its a shame government aren't trying to encourage decentralisation in a meaningful way, as in not just transfer departments from Dublin to other urban areas of the country.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 13:40:01    2461579

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "In new Ross??? Yes it goes as far as the maudlins then you are into cushinstown area not the point I'm trying to make viking"
Your point is made Wexfordgaa. They shouldn't be in the position they are in, even if alot of the town play rugby or soccer.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 13:41:36    2461580

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Replying To beano:  "Three of their most recent county players across both codes felt it necessary to leave to get game-time for Wexford: Eanna Martin, Shane Roche and Rory Quinlivan. That's hardly the club's fault."
Didn't Eanna Martin not move to Cork for 10 years then Dublin after that?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 03/03/2023 13:43:35    2461583

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Replying To beano:  "Three of their most recent county players across both codes felt it necessary to leave to get game-time for Wexford: Eanna Martin, Shane Roche and Rory Quinlivan. That's hardly the club's fault."
Quinlivan was with Clonard, I'd say your thinking of Kieran Butler is was in the football panel for a couple of years.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/03/2023 14:03:14    2461591

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I bet the biggest change (and I am speculating) is the reduction in family sizes.
There are families in my club with 2-3 children max but the parents themselves are from families of 6-7-8 and bigger in a few cases.
You can't blame a government for what is the reality of life that people don't tend to want a load of children.
Doesn't Rathnure cover a huge area of Killanne, Rathnure and another couple of villages? It doesn't sound to me a small population area?
tearintom that is what I think, there must be some form of disconnect there between club and county?
And btw the GAA is not as much to do with population as people think, if it was you would expect Kildare, Meath, Wicklow and Louth to be at least challenging for provincial honours in Leinster. If it was, Kerry would have less All-Irelands and Ballyhale would be intermediate.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1456 - 03/03/2023 14:28:14    2461602

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I bet the biggest change (and I am speculating) is the reduction in family sizes.
There are families in my club with 2-3 children max but the parents themselves are from families of 6-7-8 and bigger in a few cases.
You can't blame a government for what is the reality of life that people don't tend to want a load of children.
Doesn't Rathnure cover a huge area of Killanne, Rathnure and another couple of villages? It doesn't sound to me a small population area?
tearintom that is what I think, there must be some form of disconnect there between club and county?
And btw the GAA is not as much to do with population as people think, if it was you would expect Kildare, Meath, Wicklow and Louth to be at least challenging for provincial honours in Leinster. If it was, Kerry would have less All-Irelands and Ballyhale would be intermediate."
I think the effect of the rural depopulation due to government planning policies is something that is going to have an effect in the future rather than having an affect now.

You're right in that many families are smaller, think of farming families with 3 or 4 kids as opposed to families with 6 or 7 kids. The thing is that we have found in our area that although the families maybe be smaller they tended to stay around, each kid getting a site to build on, get married have kids, settle in the parish.

What we will see in the future is rathe than all 3 or 4 kids of a family settling in and building "around home" that will now be reduced to one of those siblings if lucky!! Government and in particular our "green" friends in government and their policies is going to devastate rural Ireland and the OP is right whilst we will see towns growing rural clubs will suffer.

And yes population doesnt mean success but in terms of rural clubs throughout ireland and whast coming it isnt a case of success it will be a case of survival, mark my words if things continue as they are rural GAA throughout the island is going to suffer greatly when the opposite should be the case with the advances in technology that allow working remotely etc readily being used.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1550 - 03/03/2023 15:27:18    2461621

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Replying To Yellow:  "But speaking of Rathnure;

Nigel Higgins left the panel when he had a lot more to offer as did Jack Guiney and Paul Codd

All very good hurlers whose inter county careers were cut short too soon.

Hopefully AJ and Jack Redmond can be future stars for Wexford - they looked like the real deal any time Ive seen them"
Paul God played for wexford for a decade

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3882 - 03/03/2023 19:05:57    2461669

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Paul God played for wexford for a decade"
The hurling only clubs Rathnure, Buffers Alley or Oulart have not had a starter on the Wexford team this last few years.

The town teams like Harriers, Naomh Eanna and the Rapps and then Conor Devitt and Matt O Hanlon are well represented and I often wonder has the high fitness levels and tactics from club football helped these lads play the running game that especially Davy Fitz wanted whereby you run non stop and overlap for 70mins like in football.

Wexford hurlers would play as close to a football team as I've seen. Lots of handpassing and running.

Clare Football man Paul Kinnerk would be the same with Limerick, bringing an ex county footballer like Gearoid Hegarty into the set-up and turning him into one of the best hurlers out there at the minute.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 04/03/2023 09:11:09    2461699

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