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Replying To countyman2022:  "Derek McGrath was interviewed the other evening. Not sure of outcome or opinion on it."
Are you sure?. He's away on holidays. Hasn't been on the sideline for the last 2 harriers games including the postponed match v st. Anne's

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 463 - 31/07/2023 17:13:34    2498163

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Are you sure?. He's away on holidays. Hasn't been on the sideline for the last 2 harriers games including the postponed match v st. Anne's"
Was told yesterday.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 577 - 31/07/2023 17:25:13    2498168

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Being brutally honest the last person I'd want."
Wouldnt want Derek McGrath at all. By the time we have a management team in place championship will be nearly over. New management will need to watch a lot of games from wexford gaa tv in senior and intermediate grades before a panel is picked

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 897 - 31/07/2023 17:30:38    2498173

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Derek McGrath was interviewed the other evening. Not sure of outcome or opinion on it."
When I said I think we need a man who can develop gameplans to suit our players that wasn't exactly what I had in mind. He had a bit of success in his role with the Laois minors. Not sure what his role was though. And the Harriers haven't been setting the club scene here on fire either.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 31/07/2023 19:00:26    2498202

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Are you sure?. He's away on holidays. Hasn't been on the sideline for the last 2 harriers games including the postponed match v st. Anne's"
I believe Brian Downling was on the line with Faythe Harriers in the last two games

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 78 - 31/07/2023 22:16:29    2498244

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The new Wexford manager won't be worrying himself about missing club matches.
He will have months to have a look at players in trials and so on. Sure clubs will be asked to send people for trials, he will find out fairly quick who is up to it and who is not. Its not as if the new man will be trawling to Junior matches around the county looking for a Wally Walsh.
Its best that Wexford county board take their time and get the appointment right. There is no rush.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1698 - 01/08/2023 09:50:28    2498267

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He wouldn't be my choice either, but he did well with Waterford for a while, would know the club scene well and has experience at that level.

He's likely to have learned some lessons in his Las season in charge of Waterford.

Again, not my choice, but I do think he'd be better than Egan.

I'd just much rather see somebody progressive who's willing to mix it up a bit.

One thing I will say for Egan is he was a very good hands on forwards coach. I think jacko in particular improved a good bit during his tenure.

He got the defensive side of our game wrong so maybe we need to start limiting what we concede again.

Davy was frustrating, but certainly made us very hard to beat.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2284 - 01/08/2023 10:43:08    2498294

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https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-41190094.html
Interesting read about sports psychology in general but nothing too specific.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 01/08/2023 11:05:32    2498305

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A few people I know in Faith Harriers who did not think much of Derek McGrath.....

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1010 - 01/08/2023 16:57:45    2498416

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "A few people I know in Faith Harriers who did not think much of Derek McGrath....."
Mmmm interesting.. Really is silly season on the managerial front

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 60 - 01/08/2023 20:41:14    2498466

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "The new Wexford manager won't be worrying himself about missing club matches.
He will have months to have a look at players in trials and so on. Sure clubs will be asked to send people for trials, he will find out fairly quick who is up to it and who is not. Its not as if the new man will be trawling to Junior matches around the county looking for a Wally Walsh.
Its best that Wexford county board take their time and get the appointment right. There is no rush."
All he has to do is look at last years panel as I am not sure that anyone has been able to point out any player that wasn't involved who deserved to be. Has anyone on here highlighted anyone that should be brought into it? I haven't seen anything anyway. So agree no need to worry about the club championship.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1671 - 01/08/2023 23:17:52    2498499

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Replying To zinny:  "All he has to do is look at last years panel as I am not sure that anyone has been able to point out any player that wasn't involved who deserved to be. Has anyone on here highlighted anyone that should be brought into it? I haven't seen anything anyway. So agree no need to worry about the club championship."
I think the point is that the club championship is exactly where he should be looking? I mean where else do we look for new players? But then again with the blitz nature of the championship we probably arent going to develop many players anyway, come the monday of the August bank holiday weekend over 70% of our clubs hurlers wont be playing another hurling game of significance in the county for nigh on on 9 months!!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1239 - 02/08/2023 09:51:13    2498520

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Replying To zinny:  "All he has to do is look at last years panel as I am not sure that anyone has been able to point out any player that wasn't involved who deserved to be. Has anyone on here highlighted anyone that should be brought into it? I haven't seen anything anyway. So agree no need to worry about the club championship."
To be fair I think a good few have mentioned names that for one reason or another haven't committed which could change in a new set up.

Redmond and Molloy for example.

I'd say Cormac Cooney is worth a look too.

I suspect matt, dee and mogie will need replacing.

We're not in bad shape other than that.

The spine is still jipp, d reck, chin and mac.

S reck, Simon, Jack, roc don't have too much to worry about.

If they all stay fit it's still a good starting point.

Devittt flood and Lawlor hopefully kick on this year.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2284 - 02/08/2023 09:51:18    2498521

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Replying To zinny:  "All he has to do is look at last years panel as I am not sure that anyone has been able to point out any player that wasn't involved who deserved to be. Has anyone on here highlighted anyone that should be brought into it? I haven't seen anything anyway. So agree no need to worry about the club championship."
There are several that we have flagged up on this but it would be up to the management to get them to commit or give them a ring.
Lads to get to commit, and give it their best shot, if possible-
Jack Cullen
Molloys from Gorey especially Cian
AJ Redmond
Paudie Foley
Billy Dunne

Lads to call in for a look-
Cathal Doyle
Stephen O'Gorman
A couple of keepers see who does well.
This years u20s who are overage for next year.
Shane Murphy
Mossie Murphy
Bob Whitty
Pauric Reville

Lads who were on the early season panel and deserve another look-
Tucker Kinsella
Conall Clancy
Kyle Firman
Joe Coleman
Gavin Bailey
Eoin Murphy
Jack Doran
Mike Kelly
Kyle Scallan
Plus this years extended championship panel, which includes Tucker come to think of it.

I'm sure there are a few others worth a look also before training begins in earnest in late Nov/December.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 02/08/2023 11:15:39    2498547

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Replying To tearintom:  "I think the point is that the club championship is exactly where he should be looking? I mean where else do we look for new players? But then again with the blitz nature of the championship we probably arent going to develop many players anyway, come the monday of the August bank holiday weekend over 70% of our clubs hurlers wont be playing another hurling game of significance in the county for nigh on on 9 months!!"
Players develop in their backyards, the ball wall, and the training pitch. Top players will be hurling at all 3 throughout the year. The Championship games in a year are where they, and we, see if all that effort has made them better since the year before. Most of the better hurlers in the county in their early 20s also hurl for their colleges/universities. Others get semi competitive games in the League. Clubs that don't enter teams should get together with other clubs if they don't have the numbers for a League team. They should be ashamed that they are letting any of their players with any ambition to play intercounty down by not doing so.
Problem on this site, and the county at large, is there is still a fixation on the Senior clubs as regards finding intercounty players. You could theoretically have 20 good but not particularly great players keep a club up in Senior and even do well by playing well as a team, being superfit and strong, and being managed well. While an excellent hurler could play for a Junior club that maybe only has small numbers and lads playing at 19 or 39 to make up that small number.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 02/08/2023 11:25:02    2498550

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Replying To Viking66:  "There are several that we have flagged up on this but it would be up to the management to get them to commit or give them a ring.
Lads to get to commit, and give it their best shot, if possible-
Jack Cullen
Molloys from Gorey especially Cian
AJ Redmond
Paudie Foley
Billy Dunne

Lads to call in for a look-
Cathal Doyle
Stephen O'Gorman
A couple of keepers see who does well.
This years u20s who are overage for next year.
Shane Murphy
Mossie Murphy
Bob Whitty
Pauric Reville

Lads who were on the early season panel and deserve another look-
Tucker Kinsella
Conall Clancy
Kyle Firman
Joe Coleman
Gavin Bailey
Eoin Murphy
Jack Doran
Mike Kelly
Kyle Scallan
Plus this years extended championship panel, which includes Tucker come to think of it.

I'm sure there are a few others worth a look also before training begins in earnest in late Nov/December."
Do you think we have a goal keeper problem?

Personally I think Lawlor is good. He was badly let down defensively.

The Clare game being the standout, none of which was his fault

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2284 - 02/08/2023 13:53:01    2498612

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Do you think we have a goal keeper problem?

Personally I think Lawlor is good. He was badly let down defensively.

The Clare game being the standout, none of which was his fault"
Lawlors puckouts and shot stopping weren't brilliant tbh Doylerwex. Especially short puckouts. He's the current keeper but no harm looking at others. Derry Mahon takes too long over puckouts also which then means shorter puckouts aren't always on anymore.
I think we are going to have to develop a shorter game, especially for during the League when we will likely be giving game time to some of the newer and younger, and therefore likely smaller and less robust, panel members as we don't have enough big ball winning half forwards of a Senior intercounty standard. Then come championship if we have our bigger, older lads back we will be able to be a little less predictable also as we will hopefully have a well practiced plan B, and better again plans C and D, in place.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 02/08/2023 14:54:15    2498648

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Replying To Viking66:  "Lawlors puckouts and shot stopping weren't brilliant tbh Doylerwex. Especially short puckouts. He's the current keeper but no harm looking at others. Derry Mahon takes too long over puckouts also which then means shorter puckouts aren't always on anymore.
I think we are going to have to develop a shorter game, especially for during the League when we will likely be giving game time to some of the newer and younger, and therefore likely smaller and less robust, panel members as we don't have enough big ball winning half forwards of a Senior intercounty standard. Then come championship if we have our bigger, older lads back we will be able to be a little less predictable also as we will hopefully have a well practiced plan B, and better again plans C and D, in place."
Wonder is there an outfield player who potentially could be worth looking at as competition for goal, to the best of my knowledge the top 3 intercounty goalies in both codes (Eoin Murphy, Quaid, Cluxton) all play outfield for their clubs.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1165 - 02/08/2023 15:40:31    2498675

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Wonder is there an outfield player who potentially could be worth looking at as competition for goal, to the best of my knowledge the top 3 intercounty goalies in both codes (Eoin Murphy, Quaid, Cluxton) all play outfield for their clubs."
Here in Wexford Damien Fitzhenry and Shane Roche too. Eanna Martin?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 02/08/2023 16:14:49    2498686

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Replying To Viking66:  "Here in Wexford Damien Fitzhenry and Shane Roche too. Eanna Martin?"
Forgot chops carley too actually

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2284 - 02/08/2023 17:05:54    2498717

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