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Will take years of work til alot of those lads are up to the peak physical condition of the top intercounty lads. Definitely agree that we need a management team that will come up with a cohesive functional game plan that can be modified in game, and also modified to suit the 15 on the pitch.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14235 - 03/08/2023 15:28:22 2498896 Link 0 |
Does anyone actually know what went on behind closed doors with Fanning? I think unless you do, you'd be better off keeping opinions to yourselves on that one. He was treated appallingly.
wexfan09 (Wexford) - Posts: 32 - 03/08/2023 15:29:13 2498897 Link 2 |
In what way?
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1435 - 03/08/2023 15:31:03 2498899 Link 0 |
I think we missed 4 frees against Dublin, and they missed one. We lost by 2 points. If we had beaten Dublin maybe we would've beaten Westmeath. Then we would've been in a Leinster final.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14235 - 03/08/2023 15:31:13 2498900 Link 0 |
What actually happened?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14235 - 03/08/2023 15:38:01 2498901 Link 0 |
Forget about fanning. Always a liability
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3263 - 03/08/2023 15:46:53 2498905 Link 0 |
In my opinion, Mark Fanning is still the best goalkeeper Wexford have bar none. He should be back in Wexford squad next year. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1267 - 03/08/2023 17:01:47 2498917 Link 0 |
He was treated appallingly? That is a good one now. Was more than fair.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 751 - 03/08/2023 17:26:28 2498924 Link 0 |
I heard. Was another reason I was glad to see the back of Egan. Treated Fanning horrendously. Not convinced on Lawlor either, seems to concede a bagful of goals anytime he gets the nod for Wexford. There has to be more than two goalkeepers in Wexford though? Past hurler (None) - Posts: 842 - 03/08/2023 22:59:19 2498954 Link 0 |
Wouldn't look up my nose at any mid 20s lafs, as I said David Reidy perfect example, dropped off the Limerick panel at 24, works his way back into the squad starts his 1st final at 30.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/08/2023 01:05:24 2498956 Link 0 |
I don't know what went on but looking at it from the outside was it not a case of Egan decided Fanning wasn't his no.1 Goalkeeper anymore.. I have huge time for Fanning but can a manager not choose one player over the other - esp when it is kind of a 50 /50 call - without it being deemed he was treated appallingly?? Or if theres more to it than than maybe enlighten me TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 04/08/2023 07:45:22 2498962 Link 0 |
There are. Thats why I said the new management should be looking at them.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14235 - 04/08/2023 10:38:26 2498973 Link 0 |
Lawlor definitely made one good save against Antrim when they were coming back on us. But I'm not convinced at all with him, might improve with last year's experience behind him and a better backroom staff. Fanning was at fault for a number of crucial goals conceded in championship games. He had a shocker really the first season under Egan so was always going to come under pressure last season for his spot. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 04/08/2023 10:44:00 2498977 Link 0 |
Don't mean to be critical or subjective but fanning is probably the weakest keeper that's played Liam mc csrthy in the last decade despit his uncle Tom demseys boring and predictable attempts at bigging him up at every opportunity .Fanning has a long history of constant errors and poor puck outs and simply couldn't accept lawlor was the new number 1. Lawlor has a bigger frame, does the basics better and makes less mistakes,, him coinciding goals was a reflection of the defensive structure or lack of in front of him by previous mngt. Fanning a good servant but he has no future in a wex Jersey. Lawlor hasn't put a foot wrong since he broke into the town and I think we have plenty of other positions that need sorting as priority. We coincide too much too easily and don't score enough consistently at present to really trouble the top 5 or 6 . We have potential and a healthy number of talented players but can we develop them and introduce them into a functional game plan. Getting a mngr team together before the conclusion of our championship would be a help
cragask1234 (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 04/08/2023 10:55:52 2498981 Link 0 |
Actually taught Fanning improved in Davy's tenure but after the draw in Mullingar last year where we gave away 2 awful goals his confidence never seemed to recover. Lawlor did OK this year but wouldn't be fully sold yet.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/08/2023 11:18:26 2498990 Link 0 |
Agree 100% I'm grateful for his leinster final penalty, which makes up for the dozen he's missed. He misses the long range frees more often than not, and is just too prone to errors if we have any ambition. Lawlor was good against antrim and kilkenny. He's got time on his side and can't really be blamed for some of the defensive horror shows we've seen this year Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3263 - 04/08/2023 12:12:42 2499001 Link 0 |
Wouldnt like to see you being critical after that first sentence! Anyway the 2024 panel has lots of issues to address on the evidence of the last couple of seasons, goalkeeper being one.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 04/08/2023 12:28:11 2499007 Link 0 |
And the mistake against KK where only for Matthew and Damien there would have been a match winning goal for KK. And the dropped ball against Clare. And the missed penalties against Galway and Dublin. Basically every game.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 751 - 04/08/2023 12:31:18 2499010 Link 0 |
The mistakes against KK and Clare happened after the Mullingar game which is the exact point I'm making.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/08/2023 12:48:53 2499019 Link 0 |
Biggest worry I'd have about Lawlor is his short and medium puckouts. Fanning wasn't great at them either. With the height and size of our Intercounty squad, coupled with the way successful teams play these days mixing the puckouts up, I think this is more important than actual shot stopping. Against Clare in the League several of their goals resulted directly or indirectly from poor short and medium puckouts. Its a worry I'd have about Mahon also, having watched him play for club and county. He seems to take too long and often a wingback or midfielder who was open wasn't by the time he actually pucked the ball out. Lawlor was the same. Carty, Devitt and Donohue were often open during the Walsh Cup and early League games but Lawlor and Fanning ended up pucking it long down on top of lads who were never going to win a contested aerial ball.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14235 - 04/08/2023 12:56:56 2499021 Link 0 |