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Moving onto the starting team as the fringe players were what the day was mostly about.
Fanning- let in a goal from around 40 yards out. Sent some puckouts on top of lads who were being double marked by Offaly. Did OK apart from that.
Niall Murphy looked OK on his 1st start.
Jippo looked better than last weekend. Always seems to improve the more starts he gets.
Devitt played well again.
Bailey played OK for his 1st game back in well over a year. Great to see him play well into the second half.
Eoin Murphy didn't look as assured at centreback as he did at wingback against Laois. Still played OK though.
Carthy played well and along with Jippo were the only backs to play the whole game. He played the whole game against Laois also. For his 1st season at Senior intercounty he seems to be adjusting to the speed of it well.
Overall the starting back 6 played well again and apart from the Offaly goal restricted them to very little from play. Or otherwise tbh.
Lawlor was my MOTM. Got on a lot of ball. Used it well. Tackled and harried well also.
Mcguckin also played well. Usual high energy game. Good to see these 2 do well as midfield will be a position we need new lads in in a year or twos time.
The starting front 6 got pulled, dragged and pushed over from behind the whole game. And when they got away the 7th Offaly back blew them up for overcarrying.
Jacko and Mikey looked a little rusty at the start with poor touches. Both got better though. Dunbar and Hearne looked a little better probably after getting starts in the Laois game. Higgins was the most fouled lad on the pitch, followed by Banville who largely did well til he went off injured. Notably it was the 2nd game in a row he didn't miss a single free I think.
Overall it was a much more encouraging game than the Laois game. First touch seemed better although still not perfect. Passing looked a little sharper. Probably a few less wides and balls dropped short. The lads took a beating off a bigger Offaly team and still won comfortably. Was a good hard game to watch as a spectator though!
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Replying To Viking66: "Moving onto the starting team as the fringe players were what the day was mostly about.
Fanning- let in a goal from around 40 yards out. Sent some puckouts on top of lads who were being double marked by Offaly. Did OK apart from that.
Niall Murphy looked OK on his 1st start.
Jippo looked better than last weekend. Always seems to improve the more starts he gets.
Devitt played well again.
Bailey played OK for his 1st game back in well over a year. Great to see him play well into the second half.
Eoin Murphy didn't look as assured at centreback as he did at wingback against Laois. Still played OK though.
Carthy played well and along with Jippo were the only backs to play the whole game. He played the whole game against Laois also. For his 1st season at Senior intercounty he seems to be adjusting to the speed of it well.
Overall the starting back 6 played well again and apart from the Offaly goal restricted them to very little from play. Or otherwise tbh.
Lawlor was my MOTM. Got on a lot of ball. Used it well. Tackled and harried well also.
Mcguckin also played well. Usual high energy game. Good to see these 2 do well as midfield will be a position we need new lads in in a year or twos time.
The starting front 6 got pulled, dragged and pushed over from behind the whole game. And when they got away the 7th Offaly back blew them up for overcarrying.
Jacko and Mikey looked a little rusty at the start with poor touches. Both got better though. Dunbar and Hearne looked a little better probably after getting starts in the Laois game. Higgins was the most fouled lad on the pitch, followed by Banville who largely did well til he went off injured. Notably it was the 2nd game in a row he didn't miss a single free I think.
Overall it was a much more encouraging game than the Laois game. First touch seemed better although still not perfect. Passing looked a little sharper. Probably a few less wides and balls dropped short. The lads took a beating off a bigger Offaly team and still won comfortably. Was a good hard game to watch as a spectator though!" Couldn't go due to other circumstances but got it on the stream, 2 midfielders looked very good both worked tremendously hard, Hearne got on a mountain of ball, poor shooting at times alright, actually taught Dwyer did well, good outlet makes the ball stick won plenty of frees, don't know if its the rugby background but he's deceptively strong, Ryan seemed to be the pick of the backs, pitch looked very soft,if it was a more important game would have lost my mind over the ref, some very strange decisions.
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Replying To Viking66: "Moving onto the starting team as the fringe players were what the day was mostly about.
Fanning- let in a goal from around 40 yards out. Sent some puckouts on top of lads who were being double marked by Offaly. Did OK apart from that.
Niall Murphy looked OK on his 1st start.
Jippo looked better than last weekend. Always seems to improve the more starts he gets.
Devitt played well again.
Bailey played OK for his 1st game back in well over a year. Great to see him play well into the second half.
Eoin Murphy didn't look as assured at centreback as he did at wingback against Laois. Still played OK though.
Carthy played well and along with Jippo were the only backs to play the whole game. He played the whole game against Laois also. For his 1st season at Senior intercounty he seems to be adjusting to the speed of it well.
Overall the starting back 6 played well again and apart from the Offaly goal restricted them to very little from play. Or otherwise tbh.
Lawlor was my MOTM. Got on a lot of ball. Used it well. Tackled and harried well also.
Mcguckin also played well. Usual high energy game. Good to see these 2 do well as midfield will be a position we need new lads in in a year or twos time.
The starting front 6 got pulled, dragged and pushed over from behind the whole game. And when they got away the 7th Offaly back blew them up for overcarrying.
Jacko and Mikey looked a little rusty at the start with poor touches. Both got better though. Dunbar and Hearne looked a little better probably after getting starts in the Laois game. Higgins was the most fouled lad on the pitch, followed by Banville who largely did well til he went off injured. Notably it was the 2nd game in a row he didn't miss a single free I think.
Overall it was a much more encouraging game than the Laois game. First touch seemed better although still not perfect. Passing looked a little sharper. Probably a few less wides and balls dropped short. The lads took a beating off a bigger Offaly team and still won comfortably. Was a good hard game to watch as a spectator though!" Think I make 31 players used in the 2 games, 20 different starters and 11 got at least 1 substitute appearance.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Think I make 31 players used in the 2 games, 20 different starters and 11 got at least 1 substitute appearance." That is a very encouraging turnover of players, and exactly what we need. Great to hear of some of the newcomers showing up well- I especially think some youth in midfield could be a very useful bonus by the time the summer comes along. Dee has put in some mileage in that sector almost exclusively for the last few years and could do with some help.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Think I make 31 players used in the 2 games, 20 different starters and 11 got at least 1 substitute appearance." That's is great to see.
Lawlor, Hearne, McGuckin & Banville have a lot to offer us this year I feel.
Banville is the best free taker in Wexford, has been for a few years so maybe Egan is trying to find a spot for him as he knows in a big championship match having a forward who can hit 11 or 12 frees over the bar consistency throughout the summer is absolutely vital at this level.
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Replying To beano: "That is a very encouraging turnover of players, and exactly what we need. Great to hear of some of the newcomers showing up well- I especially think some youth in midfield could be a very useful bonus by the time the summer comes along. Dee has put in some mileage in that sector almost exclusively for the last few years and could do with some help." 8 of the 15 who started vs Clare in Thurles last June have figured so far yes good to see plenty of lads getting chances.
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Replying To Past hurler: "That's is great to see.
Lawlor, Hearne, McGuckin & Banville have a lot to offer us this year I feel.
Banville is the best free taker in Wexford, has been for a few years so maybe Egan is trying to find a spot for him as he knows in a big championship match having a forward who can hit 11 or 12 frees over the bar consistency throughout the summer is absolutely vital at this level." In fairness to Chin he's been pretty good on the frees when it matters the last 3-4 years struggles on them more in the league games, Viking Offaly's 2nd goal wasn't really caught on camera on the stream, was it poor defending or goalkeeping or both?
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 15/01/2023 20:54:40
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Couldn't go due to other circumstances but got it on the stream, 2 midfielders looked very good both worked tremendously hard, Hearne got on a mountain of ball, poor shooting at times alright, actually taught Dwyer did well, good outlet makes the ball stick won plenty of frees, don't know if its the rugby background but he's deceptively strong, Ryan seemed to be the pick of the backs, pitch looked very soft,if it was a more important game would have lost my mind over the ref, some very strange decisions." I was out on the pitch for half hour after the game while the kids messed around with the hurls. Granted I'm over 15 stone but I was sinking into it slightly just walking on it. It was very soft and cut up pretty badly but in good nick bearing in mind the rain we have had the last couple of months. Dwyer got alot sharper after the 1st 10 or 15 minutes. He is strong OK. Hopefully will improve more with more games between now and the championship. Has a good turn of pace too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 15/01/2023 21:31:56
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Replying To beano: "That is a very encouraging turnover of players, and exactly what we need. Great to hear of some of the newcomers showing up well- I especially think some youth in midfield could be a very useful bonus by the time the summer comes along. Dee has put in some mileage in that sector almost exclusively for the last few years and could do with some help." Definitely Beano.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 15/01/2023 21:32:44
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "8 of the 15 who started vs Clare in Thurles last June have figured so far yes good to see plenty of lads getting chances." Of those 8 Jippo is the only player to play all of both games. Fanning 1 game, Shane Reck around 40 minutes total, Chin 30 minutes total, Mac 15 minutes total, Dee around 20 minutes, Damien Reck 70 odd minutes. Forgot Devitt started against Clare last year but he's played a good bit this year and played well both games. Great that last years starters have played so few minutes so far tbh.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 15/01/2023 21:39:23
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "In fairness to Chin he's been pretty good on the frees when it matters the last 3-4 years struggles on them more in the league games, Viking Offaly's 2nd goal wasn't really caught on camera on the stream, was it poor defending or goalkeeping or both?" Hard to say even though I was there. From Marks standpoint it would have come in fairly low over the heads of the defenders and dipped. At the end of the day it shouldn't have gone in from that far out it seemed to be around 40 yards out.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 15/01/2023 21:42:37
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Replying To Past hurler: "That's is great to see.
Lawlor, Hearne, McGuckin & Banville have a lot to offer us this year I feel.
Banville is the best free taker in Wexford, has been for a few years so maybe Egan is trying to find a spot for him as he knows in a big championship match having a forward who can hit 11 or 12 frees over the bar consistency throughout the summer is absolutely vital at this level." Banville has played pretty well in open play too. He's been busy. Hurling looked sharper today though he ran into traffic a couple of times and a couple of passes went astray. Probably needs a good run in the team through the League. Hopefully he is fit after going off injured and gets picked to start this Saturday evening. Hopefully most of the fringe lads who have started the last couple of days get starts Saturday. Maybe Banville would be a wing forward option for the championship if he keeps improving and Chin plays 11 in the championship?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 15/01/2023 21:47:58
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"Darragh Egan continued to give his younger and inexperienced panel members the chance to stake a claim for jerseys in advance of bigger games ahead, and players like wing back Ian Carty and the midfield pairing of Richie Lawler and Charlie McGuckin - a son of former Offaly All-Ireland winning corner back Shane - certainly took their chance well in Birr this afternoon."
https://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/walsh-cup-kilkenny-and-wexford-set-up-showdown/
Good to see some of the younger lads getting a bit of national recognition.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 16/01/2023 07:10:09
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Replying To Viking66: ""Darragh Egan continued to give his younger and inexperienced panel members the chance to stake a claim for jerseys in advance of bigger games ahead, and players like wing back Ian Carty and the midfield pairing of Richie Lawler and Charlie McGuckin - a son of former Offaly All-Ireland winning corner back Shane - certainly took their chance well in Birr this afternoon."
https://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/walsh-cup-kilkenny-and-wexford-set-up-showdown/
Good to see some of the younger lads getting a bit of national recognition." So do you think he got it wrong last year in chasing glory in the league? Once we were assured of our status should he have given more players a run.
The answer is never simple in Wexford, everyone says that all they want is an AI but if all of a sudden we are doing well in the WC or League everyone wants all the top players playing so we win. He says we will see a lot more regulars back for Sunday, why? Is this not the type of some of these players need to be tested in.if there was a vote tomorrow on play the same team that started v Offaly or bring back established players, I am fairly sure the latter would win.
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Replying To zinny: "So do you think he got it wrong last year in chasing glory in the league? Once we were assured of our status should he have given more players a run.
The answer is never simple in Wexford, everyone says that all they want is an AI but if all of a sudden we are doing well in the WC or League everyone wants all the top players playing so we win. He says we will see a lot more regulars back for Sunday, why? Is this not the type of some of these players need to be tested in.if there was a vote tomorrow on play the same team that started v Offaly or bring back established players, I am fairly sure the latter would win." We know the reason there will probably be a more familiar team on Saturday, 1st game under lights in the park, I don't necessarily agree with this but that is the reality, 2 games so far have been beneficial in my view, all about building the panel, Richie Lawlor and Ian Carty for example 2 lads that have not played senior intercounty championship have shown well in the 2 games. Fitzgibbon is starting Wednesday so don't know if that will effect selections over the next few weeks,
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 16/01/2023 11:06:45
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Replying To zinny: "So do you think he got it wrong last year in chasing glory in the league? Once we were assured of our status should he have given more players a run.
The answer is never simple in Wexford, everyone says that all they want is an AI but if all of a sudden we are doing well in the WC or League everyone wants all the top players playing so we win. He says we will see a lot more regulars back for Sunday, why? Is this not the type of some of these players need to be tested in.if there was a vote tomorrow on play the same team that started v Offaly or bring back established players, I am fairly sure the latter would win." I'd prefer to see the same lads who started the last couple of days start the next. And Egan might feel the same privately from a hurling and Championship standpoint. But he's the manager. He has to deal with the Wexford hurling public. A fickle bunch at the best of times. If he names the same team, and they don't beat Kilkenny, which is by no means a given that they won't btw, there will be the usual negative posters reappear on this who haven't been seen since last May or June bemoaning the fact that Egan sent out a young team which was an insult to the 12000 paying punters blah blah blah.
Now if you think back to yesterday, and I didn't buy the stream so I can't watch it back, the more established or senior lads didn't exactly stand out apart from Jippo who started and Devitt if you consider him a senior lad yet. The workrate seemed to be a good bit down in the last 15 minutes compared to the lads who started the game and Offaly came back into it. Noticeably the Offaly backs were able to run out of defence up the pitch largely unchallenged. If the workrate is down against Kilkenny we will surely lose whoever he picks. Because you can be sure workrate won't be an issue for Kilkenny whoever they pick to start or come on.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "We know the reason there will probably be a more familiar team on Saturday, 1st game under lights in the park, I don't necessarily agree with this but that is the reality, 2 games so far have been beneficial in my view, all about building the panel, Richie Lawlor and Ian Carty for example 2 lads that have not played senior intercounty championship have shown well in the 2 games. Fitzgibbon is starting Wednesday so don't know if that will effect selections over the next few weeks," A few of the lads who have played so far are playing Fitzgibbon this year. James Lawlor is named as on the panel for SETU Carlow, Richie Lawlor, Ross Banville, Niall Murphy and Conall Clancy for DCU. Assuming Ross Banville is OK he looked shook enough going off yesterday.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11732 - 16/01/2023 11:23:08
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Replying To zinny: "So do you think he got it wrong last year in chasing glory in the league? Once we were assured of our status should he have given more players a run.
The answer is never simple in Wexford, everyone says that all they want is an AI but if all of a sudden we are doing well in the WC or League everyone wants all the top players playing so we win. He says we will see a lot more regulars back for Sunday, why? Is this not the type of some of these players need to be tested in.if there was a vote tomorrow on play the same team that started v Offaly or bring back established players, I am fairly sure the latter would win." I know championship trumps all but I don't think he was wrong aiming for league glory and even though Waterford imploded in champioship after winning the league last year as did Galway the year before but both were at very different stages of development and even loosing an all Ireland final wouldn't go down as that successful a year for either of them those years. We've won one national competition at all grades since 73 so I think a league title would be huge in Wexford and still would be a massive win so he was dead right to go for it even if it did end in a heavy defeat to Waterford. Still think it's a huge competition to win. Leinster and all Ireland still Trump it in my opinion but for us a win in the league would be massive for the county and for a lot of those lads to win a national league medal would be a great one to have. But as they say Championship is championship so I wouldn't swap it for a leisnter win or an all Ireland appearance.
A big win over someone other than Kilkenny in championship would be a great block to get over. I don't think we've beaten a munster team since Cork in 2016 or Galway since 96 so a win over either would be a huge stepping step for this team. We've really turned a corner on Kilkenny since 2017 and long may it continue but to beat a Munster team or Galway would be be just as important for belief. Had close runs with both, Galway in 2019 should've won that, Clare last year was a real missed chance, Tipp in 2019 semi etc but just can't seem to get over the line. Could be the spark we need to light up a very deep run in this year's championship.
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If I was Egan, and considering what he said about it being a standalone fixture, I'd start the 2 Lawlors all the same despite their Fitzgibbon involvement and Ross Banville if fit.
I'd go-
1- Lawlor
2- Devitt
3- Jippo
4- S Reck
5- Bailey
6- D Reck
7- Ian Carthy
8- Dee
9- R Lawlor
10- Banville
11- Chin
12- Mcguckin
13- Dwyer
14- Mac with a good boot up the hole to get him motivated
15- Dunbar
And defo try to get Hearne, Conor Firman, Clarke, Higgins, Eoin Murphy and Jacko on the pitch for a good run off the bench. Not sure whats the story with Flood, MOH, Mogie, Oisin Foley, ROC, Donohue as they haven't been on any panel so far. Joe OC was saying at halftime in Birr he only rejoined the panel last week so it would be too early for him, although he looked in great shape.
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I'd go-
1- Lawlor
2- Devitt
3- Jippo
4- S Reck
5- Bailey
6- D Reck
7- Ian Carthy
8- Dee
9- R Lawlor
10- Banville
11- Chin
12- Mcguckin
13- Dwyer
14- Mac with a good boot up the hole to get him motivated
15- Dunbar
And defo try to get Hearne, Conor Firman, Clarke, Higgins, Eoin Murphy and Jacko on the pitch for a good run off the bench. Not sure whats the story with Flood, MOH, Mogie, Oisin Foley, ROC, Donohue as they haven't been on any panel so far. Joe OC was saying at halftime in Birr he only rejoined the panel last week so it would be too early for him, although he looked in great shape." Egan was saying on the stream that Kyle Firman picked up a hamstring injury so that's why he wasn't involved yesterday.
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