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Replying To Doylerwex: "Joe O Connor is back too. With those options I can't see Donohoe starting. Also Lawlor will be in the goal. Still no sign of mogies announcement. Hopefully he's had a change of heart" David Dunne could get some Walsh Cup/League time also if hes still in the panel. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 11:48:00 2451059 Link
Replying To beano: "From what I heard, Molloy isn't on the panel this year, but might be wrong. Don't know how you could have S.Reck as only a possible starter on your hypothetical team (best shut-out corner back we have by a distance), and for me the Jacko experiement has long since failed. It's okay to be an excellent club hurler but not quite at the same level at county. I'd be hoping that the bulk of our experienced players (Chin, Ryan, Mac etc.), the two Recks and ROC (given their injury histories) are given the winter off and are only called into action in the last couple of rounds of the league. Important season in Egan's tenure, needs to be micro-managed." Damien Reck and Shane don't need the winter off. Shane is an animal in training apparently! Both are future/present leaders of the team. Mac also might benefit from some games rather than none. We need some experienced players in the Walsh Cup/League. 1 per line per game maybe. So against Laois maybe Ryan, Damien Reck, K Foley, Jacko and Mac. Then mix it up the next game. And the next. And try to give everyone 3 starts each in the minimum 8 games we will have in the Walsh Cup/League. 1 or 2 more starts to lads who stand out in those 3 games. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 11:57:02 2451060 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Joe O Connor is back too. With those options I can't see Donohoe starting. Also Lawlor will be in the goal. Still no sign of mogies announcement. Hopefully he's had a change of heart" I forgot Bailey and Hearne also who could do with games during the Walsh Cup/League. Bailey was a big loss last year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 11:58:39 2451062 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Think Mogie might be back for 1 more year. Not sure if ROC will be though. He's still getting bother with the knee. Hopefully Carthy will make it into the halfback line. Cian Molloy a good option too if he's in the panel? Scallan maybe a bit light yet. Damien Reck and MOH must be certs if they play as well as last year. We need good defensive options to bring on though especially after the way we lost to Clare when the 2 Recks were carrying injuries. Joe O Connor might provide some cover across the back 6. Hopefully he's bulked up a bit in his year off. Apparently Clarke is going well in training too. Donohue was our most improved player as the championship went on. I don't think anyone else will force their way into the starting fullback line of Shane Reck, Liam Ryan and Donohue although AJ must be the closest of last year's u20 backs. Be good to see Niall Murphy get a good run also. Conor Devitt did well there also but can play further out the field. Might be a long term option at midfield. Hopefully Kevin Foley is in better form this year. Be nice to see Conor Foley get a run in January at midfield. And maybe Devitt. I think we should give Flood a good run at wing forward. And maybe get a good look at Tucker Kinsella at centre forward in the Walsh Cup. Mikey Dwyer and Charlie Mcguckin could do with more gametime also. Maybe play Dwyer and Dunbar inside during the League. So Walsh Cup/League- GK-Lawlor FBL- AJ/S Reck, Joe OC/Ryan/ N Murphy, Donohue/Devitt HBL- Carthy/Molloy, D Reck/Clarke, Scallan/MOH MF- Conor Foley/Kevin Foley, Mcguckin/Barrett HFL- Flood/Lawlor, Jacko/Tucker, O Foley/Billy Dunne FFL- K Firman/Dunbar/Banville/Pepper, Mac/J Redmond/Byrne-Dunbar, Dwyer/Higgins/Casey/Byrne Then filter Mogie, DOK, Chin, Fanning back in in the latter stages of the League. And pray to God Rory can make it back for then too. And if Paudie Foley comes home in time then him also." If Niall and Eoin Murphy are in the panel hopefully they'll get start or 2 during the Walsh Cup, taught both were very good for Ferns last year, hopefully Gavin Bailey can get back too, he done his ACL in March so early year would be the normal return to action. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/01/2023 12:07:13 2451065 Link
I know there was mitigating factors cost of living etc. but supporters need to step up to the mark this year too, our support in Thurles vs Clare was very poor, there support who I wouldn't be the biggest fans of to be honest defiantly helped them over the line, it was obvious some of the regular posters here weren't even at it as I seen posts afterwards during the game and coverage is brutal in Semple Stadium. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/01/2023 12:38:55 2451075 Link
Joe o Conner is still in oz so not sure when he will be back and after a year out like that would he be up to standard. Did he hurl that well for us in the first place. I think we need Lawlor to play fanning has been a great servant but has been poor last season and cost us in nearly every game we played in championship. Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 04/01/2023 12:44:43 2451077 Link
Replying To beano: "Anyone else find it ironic that there is such a clamour to watch hurling under the lights in the Park, but if you are to believe experts within, hurling simply cannot be played under floodlights for the local championship?" All lights are not created equal. Recommended minimum standard for lights for club gaelic football matches is 250 Lux. Recommended minimum for club hurling matches is 500. Recommended minimum for county grounds is 1,000. Big cost difference in installing 250 Lux lighting and 500 Lux lighting. I think St. Patrick's Park is 350, and similarly, most club grounds are in around the 300 to 400 Lux mark. Good enough for hurling training and for football matches, but not enough to meet the recommended standard for hurling matches. Nobody is saying hurling matches can't ever be played under floodlights under any circumstances. But the point is that the floodlights have to be of a higher standard, and therefore more expensive to both install and run. Most club grounds that have been used for floodlit matches up to now aren't of that standard. The lights in Wexford Park will be different. Honestly, not everything has an anti-football agenda behind it. This one is simple physics. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2969 - 04/01/2023 13:08:45 2451082 Link
Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Joe o Conner is still in oz so not sure when he will be back and after a year out like that would he be up to standard. Did he hurl that well for us in the first place. I think we need Lawlor to play fanning has been a great servant but has been poor last season and cost us in nearly every game we played in championship." Think he's due back this month but as you said he'll surely have ground to make up. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/01/2023 14:27:52 2451098 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "I know there was mitigating factors cost of living etc. but supporters need to step up to the mark this year too, our support in Thurles vs Clare was very poor, there support who I wouldn't be the biggest fans of to be honest defiantly helped them over the line, it was obvious some of the regular posters here weren't even at it as I seen posts afterwards during the game and coverage is brutal in Semple Stadium." That struck me also. It was a good value day out for me and the kids all the same. Even with the McDonald's in Kilkenny on the way home! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 15:45:18 2451120 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "All lights are not created equal. Recommended minimum standard for lights for club gaelic football matches is 250 Lux. Recommended minimum for club hurling matches is 500. Recommended minimum for county grounds is 1,000. Big cost difference in installing 250 Lux lighting and 500 Lux lighting. I think St. Patrick's Park is 350, and similarly, most club grounds are in around the 300 to 400 Lux mark. Good enough for hurling training and for football matches, but not enough to meet the recommended standard for hurling matches. Nobody is saying hurling matches can't ever be played under floodlights under any circumstances. But the point is that the floodlights have to be of a higher standard, and therefore more expensive to both install and run. Most club grounds that have been used for floodlit matches up to now aren't of that standard. The lights in Wexford Park will be different. Honestly, not everything has an anti-football agenda behind it. This one is simple physics." Would probably explain why we are getting ours upgraded. I queried the expense at the time. Some €15k. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 15:46:59 2451123 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Think he's due back this month but as you said he'll surely have ground to make up." He was OK hurling wise I thought although a little light. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 15:47:50 2451124 Link
Replying To Viking66: "He was OK hurling wise I thought although a little light." I just mean in terms of the time he's been away, last game on this island was club championship 2021, the panel have been back since last week of November so in terms of pre season will also be behind the 8 ball too. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/01/2023 16:28:22 2451134 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "I just mean in terms of the time he's been away, last game on this island was club championship 2021, the panel have been back since last week of November so in terms of pre season will also be behind the 8 ball too." He will for sure. But I don't think that will matter too much come the latter stages of the League if he has been keeping himself in shape though. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 04/01/2023 17:03:12 2451140 Link
Lads Shane Reck is a nailed on starter. logger (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 04/01/2023 20:02:30 2451169 Link
Replying To Viking66: "He was OK hurling wise I thought although a little light." He was fine but lacked real power and speed and his hurling probably wasn't good enough to make up for a lack of either. In modern game you really need to providing 2 out of those 3 at minimum.Stand memory of his wexford days was in 2020 he had an awful day on Conor Whelan in Croke Park, struggled to get up to pitch of intercounty hurling and probably at this stage isn't what wexford are looking for or adds too much. A fine club player though for the Martin's. Was outstanding against Ourlart in the relegation final two years ago. Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 04/01/2023 21:28:58 2451173 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "He was fine but lacked real power and speed and his hurling probably wasn't good enough to make up for a lack of either. In modern game you really need to providing 2 out of those 3 at minimum.Stand memory of his wexford days was in 2020 he had an awful day on Conor Whelan in Croke Park, struggled to get up to pitch of intercounty hurling and probably at this stage isn't what wexford are looking for or adds too much. A fine club player though for the Martin's. Was outstanding against Ourlart in the relegation final two years ago." Itd be hard for a 22 year old with little S and C done to match Whelan. Its something we are way behind other counties at underage. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16513 - 05/01/2023 10:04:01 2451191 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "He was fine but lacked real power and speed and his hurling probably wasn't good enough to make up for a lack of either. In modern game you really need to providing 2 out of those 3 at minimum.Stand memory of his wexford days was in 2020 he had an awful day on Conor Whelan in Croke Park, struggled to get up to pitch of intercounty hurling and probably at this stage isn't what wexford are looking for or adds too much. A fine club player though for the Martin's. Was outstanding against Ourlart in the relegation final two years ago." Many good players (O'Hanlon last year for example) have struggled to contain Whelan so I think its a tad harsh to use that context. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 05/01/2023 10:30:38 2451198 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "He was fine but lacked real power and speed and his hurling probably wasn't good enough to make up for a lack of either. In modern game you really need to providing 2 out of those 3 at minimum.Stand memory of his wexford days was in 2020 he had an awful day on Conor Whelan in Croke Park, struggled to get up to pitch of intercounty hurling and probably at this stage isn't what wexford are looking for or adds too much. A fine club player though for the Martin's. Was outstanding against Ourlart in the relegation final two years ago." I rate him quite highly as a prospect to be honest and I think its a position we've been lacking in. A bit harsh to judge him on that. There are excellent backs from around the island that can't hold him on a given day. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3820 - 05/01/2023 11:15:19 2451207 Link
Any idea what team for Sunday is likely to look like lads ? Hoping to see lots of young lads like Aj Redmond , Kyle Scallan , Jack Redmond , Corey Byrne Dunbar and Tucker Kinsella get a chance to show what they can do. Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 05/01/2023 11:43:13 2451215 Link
Replying To Afinestick: "Any idea what team for Sunday is likely to look like lads ? Hoping to see lots of young lads like Aj Redmond , Kyle Scallan , Jack Redmond , Corey Byrne Dunbar and Tucker Kinsella get a chance to show what they can do." Probably be released tomorrow evening or Saturday, 3 games in the group so hopefully plenty of lads are given chances. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 05/01/2023 11:51:35 2451218 Link