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Does KW get credit among Galway people for bringing them half the way here? Joyce has developed a more potent counter attack to their game but would it be fair to say the foundation work of defence, conditioning and bringing back a bite to Galway was started by KW?
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 03/07/2022 10:41:41 2429363 Link 0 |
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I think KW does get the credit but not to the degree he deserves within Galway, we were way behind what was required when Mulholland and O'Flatharta were in charge but Kevin changed all that. I think history will be kind to him, we also must remember he was working with 2 x u21 All Ireland winning teams from 2011 and 2013 so he had the foundations and worked well off that. "Style of play" I think counted against him but if you look at our scoring average during his era, I don't think it's far off PJs… but perception and all that… I think a turning point in his reign was Monaghan at home in 2018 in the Super 8's, after that it went downhill. ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1632 - 03/07/2022 13:28:59 2429394 Link 1 |
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100%
galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1290 - 03/07/2022 13:30:41 2429395 Link 0 |
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He does from those who don't have an agenda and certainly deserves to. He's a legend of Galway football and left us is in a much better place than when he took over. His reign had run its course by the end of 2019 and a fresh management was needed. However, we should always be grateful to him for putting some respectability back into Galway football. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2214 - 03/07/2022 18:54:03 2429482 Link 1 |
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He was a legend on the field. From listening to him talk he nearly seems too rigid when it comes to tactics, even compared to the overly coached game as it is, and I can't imagine leaves much in the way of spontaneity or forwards expressing themselves. I'm sure he can find a good balance if he alters his style a bit.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 04/07/2022 10:44:45 2429575 Link 0 |
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That was one of the issues for sure. It definitely worked when it came to putting some structure on what was a very disorganised team at a low ebb, when he took over. But that type of style has its ceiling and does need to be adapted when it comes to competing with the top level. There needs to be room to take risks. Otherwise you become predictable and easier to play against after some time. Gaelic football is a broken field sport, so you can't have everything pre-programmed thankfully. Our style made it very difficult for us if we fell behind. The slow lateral handpassing up the pitch was very hard to watch at times. The worst in my opinion was against yourselves in the 2nd half of the 2019 Connacht Final. In saying that, there were some good performances over the course of his 5 years and as I said, he definitely brought us up a few levels. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2214 - 04/07/2022 12:43:30 2429617 Link 0 |
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All quiet on the western front again! A nice low key buildup since the aftermath of the Armagh game. I hope we've a massive performance brewing. Time for a few more to properly cut loose in Croke Park. They're more than capable of it. togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 980 - 04/07/2022 12:53:30 2429620 Link 0 |
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Our defensive shortcomings were definitely laid bare v Armagh. I'm sure Management and players alike, will work hard on fine tuning the problem areas. Of course Gleeson will start, and I expect a much more authoritative performance. At full back, S. Kelly needs to play a more defensive minded game. Galway by 3 points..
AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 04/07/2022 13:33:51 2429631 Link 0 |
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There is no way on earth Gleeson should start if Conor Flaherty is fit. Yes, Flaherty has missed some football, but he was there for the league so senior football is nothing new to him. He has been outstanding for our underage teams and has looked the future in this position for some time. Gleeson's kickouts leave us under constant pressure and he was calamitous at the end of normal time V Armagh. These issues are not one offs either.
PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 229 - 04/07/2022 16:04:35 2429691 Link 1 |
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I'm favouring Derry in this one. Galway need to come down from a high & as you often see, teams fail to raise it again after titanic battles. look at clare in the hurling. They have not responded well to favourites tag or hype in the past few seasons. Shane Walsh needs to be on top form the next day out. Don't like the way he could be judged on a miskick after all the frees he nailed under pressure. Galways best player all season. Hopefully he shows the form he showed previously. I'd go far as to say he was not protected by the ref the last day. Nuterals want to see his two footed skills not some back pulling him down off the ball. He's truly a player who you pay to watch. His skills levels are phonemoal. Shane Mcguigan is on fire & Derry can match Galways attack with a strong defence. Its going to be interesting. Derry have deceptive forwards dont look that natural who have a great conversion rate, a great work rste & an eye for goal. Derry can go with a few high balls into Galways full back line. Derry looked impressive for 70mins in their games. Galway play for 50 mins & are not good at game managment.
OhReally (Limerick) - Posts: 24 - 04/07/2022 16:41:44 2429704 Link 0 |
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Don't agree with the poster saying out defence was laid bare the last day ,, after 72 mins Armagh had scored 13 points :3 of those were unforced errors by Galway, 1 Poor kick out straight to Armagh man 2 Kieran molloy hand passed ball to Armagh player under no pressure 3 Dylan mchugh got turned over after getting pass of Shane Walsh hesitated on ball Rian o Neill turned it over , the biggest problem last day was the goalie in my opinion the backs have no faith in him even his short kick outs are putting them under severe pressure,, Flaherty has to start , Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 962 - 04/07/2022 17:49:46 2429720 Link 0 |
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I wonder is it something to do with soccer keepers getting way more protection from referees under a high ball than gaelic goalkeepers? Our own Shaun Patton is also an ex LOI keeper and has also had his wobbles under high balls. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9529 - 05/07/2022 15:24:46 2429913 Link 0 |
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Nothing to do with Soccer what so ever, they have both been playing Gaelic football since a young age and know the rules for both codes. there is no excuses for not contesting a high ball and as a 6 foot plus goalkeeper, especially in Glessons case.. he let it happen 3 times in the space of 15 mins! 1 time is a mistake 3 times is a big problem. if anything refs in the GAA protect the goalkeepers too!!
Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 97 - 06/07/2022 09:36:51 2430000 Link 0 |
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Then you look at Morgan who has played goals in soccer.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2169 - 06/07/2022 11:31:16 2430048 Link 1 |
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I thought our defending both individually and structurally was excellent for 70 odd minutes the last day. Very hard to analyze what happened after that. Just seemed individual errors and decision making. The first goal was a bit of a freak. Point effort dropping short at that angle just under the post is very hard to deal with. If the keeper was cooler he would just have tapped it over for a point rather than trying to take it down. Point at that stage was no big deal. The second goal looked to me as if the keeper had lost all his confidence however he should have been shielded. An Armagh guy was on top of him, nothing wrong with that, but the defenders should have got between them to allow the keeper to jump unimpeded. Third goal, was a brain fart! Ball in hand, small square, about to be tackled....... go down! I thought our performance up to date was top class. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1893 - 06/07/2022 11:49:31 2430055 Link 1 |
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Whatever is said about garbage time, two games on the run Galway conceded 2-16 and and 2-14 in normal time and have not been as tight at the back since the Mayo game, who have a forward line that struggles to score consistently. The teams that are left will be much more of a test than both Roscommon and Armagh for 70 minutes plus. Joyce has definitely shored things up at the back but there must be some sort of mental fatigue there when it comes into the end of games. They will need to sort that out. I think Galway need to be in front going in at half time, Derry seem like the sort of team that will choke you out of a game if they get a 3 or 4 point lead. I like Joyce and he seems to have got improvements out of the team with each performance so I'm sure he is working on them being tuned in until the final whistle. It's teed up nicely from the perspective of the two managers as well, one has been here as a player, the other as an assistant coach.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 06/07/2022 14:12:58 2430096 Link 0 |
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Couldn't agree more - Defensively we were very good in that game.
MaroonedinDublin (Galway) - Posts: 35 - 06/07/2022 14:28:51 2430098 Link 0 |
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Lots of colour and support when driving through Derry, especially in Ballinderry where most colour is on the Tyrone side including the primary school in Tyrone. Good to see your neighbours getting behind you. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2169 - 08/07/2022 11:54:52 2430453 Link 1 |
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Fancy Derry here. Standout team of the championship so far. McKaigue and McCluskey have been outstanding corner backs. McCluskey in particular has been a revelation, very dangerous running from deep. I would expect Rodgers to continue at midfield. Clare were all over the place tactically, got their matchups all wrong. They let Glass run riot. McDaid will probably pick up Glass this time. 97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 384 - 08/07/2022 13:22:33 2430488 Link 1 |
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Hi lads I used to post on here many years ago and just wondering can anybody answer my question. duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 08/07/2022 17:10:00 2430542 Link 2 |