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What Now For Mayo

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Horan has stepped down. Best of luck to him in the future.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 27/06/2022 17:34:41    2428125

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Hurling?

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 27/06/2022 18:29:46    2428147

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Who will now end up trying to take mayo forward??horan has stepped away..will 3 or 4 players now follow him??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2219 - 27/06/2022 18:34:00    2428149

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Replying To yew_tree:  "We know our record and we know it's shocking. We are a proud GAA county though. That won't change."
I would nt call Mayo s record shocking. To be the 2 nd best team in the country 6 times over the last decade is nt a bad record. Yes Mayo did nt get the holy grail but they have given their supporters some great days out.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 27/06/2022 18:55:55    2428154

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Was surprised to see so few from Mayo in the crowd yesterday - considering the support base over the last 10 + years. Are the supporters simply "burnt out"?

TBH you can only go to the well so many times before people just fall away from it.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 27/06/2022 19:01:03    2428157

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Horan has stepped down. Best of luck to him in the future."
How did Mayo supporters rate his 2nd term. Yesterday was the first time under him that Mayo haven't reach at the very least All Ireland semi final.

The quality and team full of leaders he left behind in 2014 was the same when he returned in 2019. Had to undertake another rebuilding job and loads of new faces are established seniors now.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3757 - 27/06/2022 19:34:01    2428170

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Thanks for the great memories James.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 27/06/2022 19:42:57    2428171

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Replying To yew_tree:  "We know our record and we know it's shocking. We are a proud GAA county though. That won't change."
Good man Yew Tree, never mind Belclare. He loves to stir it sometimes!
Horan gone. I think he was a brilliant manager, brought Mayo to elite levels again and again - even with multiple big name retirements. So what if the Celtic crosses didn't come, he and his teams can be proud of a great football legacy for Mayo and memorable times on the road for your supporters. Hope we see him on a sideline again before long - a very decent man and a great servant to our wonderful game.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 903 - 27/06/2022 19:43:33    2428172

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Replying To The_analyser:  "How did Mayo supporters rate his 2nd term. Yesterday was the first time under him that Mayo haven't reach at the very least All Ireland semi final.

The quality and team full of leaders he left behind in 2014 was the same when he returned in 2019. Had to undertake another rebuilding job and loads of new faces are established seniors now."
I think he's done a very good job overall, considering the age profile of the squad he took over in 2018. Unfortunately last year's final was a tough one to take and the negativity around since then meant it was time to go.

He's definitely left us well set up for the next few years IMO.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 27/06/2022 19:57:53    2428176

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Replying To The_analyser:  "How did Mayo supporters rate his 2nd term. Yesterday was the first time under him that Mayo haven't reach at the very least All Ireland semi final.

The quality and team full of leaders he left behind in 2014 was the same when he returned in 2019. Had to undertake another rebuilding job and loads of new faces are established seniors now."
He has brought through a good bunch of new young players. Two Connacht titles, an NFL title and two final appearances…most counties would kill for that. Maybe James is a victim of his own high standards and success in raising the bar and expectations. Right or wrong it now appears every year is a failure unless/until Sam is delivered.

We aren't near where we were in his first term. Unfortunately for James last years final non show will be what's remembered. That appears to have broke a lot of the fans. I can't speak for the players.

The "ah sure ye gave us great entertainment" "2nd best team" stuff really is grating at this stage.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 27/06/2022 19:58:38    2428178

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Best of luck to James Horan in his retirement. He turned a soft centred team into tough hard players who gave great service and entertainment for a decade. A team that had a never say die attitude and never face up.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 27/06/2022 20:25:19    2428189

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Was surprised to see so few from Mayo in the crowd yesterday - considering the support base over the last 10 + years. Are the supporters simply "burnt out"?

TBH you can only go to the well so many times before people just fall away from it."
Of the 8 teams in action only Armagh close to 40k seem to bring a big following to Croke Park.

Inflation costs and traveling with the family is too expensive for most nowadays.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 27/06/2022 20:54:53    2428196

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I always find it very sad when people sneer at Mayo - some on these forums and some smart alecs in the media who see themselves as serious punters. Where would football have been in the last decade without Mayo? Everyone agrees that Dublin have been an absolutely brilliant team but we tend to forget that Mayo went toe to toe with them regularly. A couple of drawn games they could have won and a few narrow defeats along the way. No other county posed such a consistent threat and in the end Mayo was the county that brought Dublin's magnificent run to an end. We should be thanking them for saving the All-Ireland Gaelic football championship from being a complete procession of easy Dublin victories. And I'd agree with an earlier poster who suggested that 2014 should have been their year, but for some awful officiating in Limerick's Gaelic Grounds.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 544 - 27/06/2022 21:15:12    2428198

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Best of luck to James Horan in his future. He did his best in my opinion.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2124 - 27/06/2022 21:25:04    2428204

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Replying To The_analyser:  "How did Mayo supporters rate his 2nd term. Yesterday was the first time under him that Mayo haven't reach at the very least All Ireland semi final.

The quality and team full of leaders he left behind in 2014 was the same when he returned in 2019. Had to undertake another rebuilding job and loads of new faces are established seniors now."
Up and down. Two Connacht championships, an NFL title and two final appearances isn't a bad record at all, objectively speaking, and I think in the fullness of time people will realize that, especially since several key players were either coming to the end of their careers or retiring when Horan resumed the post. But in Mayo managers the objective is always Sam and he fell short, like all of the others since 51.

The defeat to Tyrone last year was a bad effort all round, on and off the pitch, and I think it's left a lot of rancour. They definitely deserved to win on the day, but our lads really missed some very poor shots (worse than at the weekend) and could have forced a replay in spite of a poor performance. Probably the worst loss in a final since Kerry in 1997.

Horan did not help this sense of bad feeling by refusing to speak to local media for long stretches of this season. I believe in his heart of hearts he knew that this was his last season.

He has brought through a number of young players such as Conroy, O'Donoghue, Mullin, Plunkett, Ruane, with a few good prospects on the horizon, such as McBrien, Callanan, Irwin, McHugh etc. on the extended panel. There are also some very decent prospects on the U20 and minor sides this year, so I would be hopeful that we will be back competing at the business end before too long.

I believe his major achievement has been to get Mayo consistently to the latter stages of the season, unlike the flaky teams of the 1990s and 2000s, who would have a good run one season then disappear the next. Not bad considering we were beaten by Longford and Sligo immediately before he took over.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/06/2022 08:33:10    2428219

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Was surprised to see so few from Mayo in the crowd yesterday - considering the support base over the last 10 + years. Are the supporters simply "burnt out"?

TBH you can only go to the well so many times before people just fall away from it."
Sure its easy support a team doing well. We'll see over the next few years who the real Mayo supporters are and how many there are

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 28/06/2022 08:50:43    2428222

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Sure its easy support a team doing well. We'll see over the next few years who the real Mayo supporters are and how many there are"
Indeed it is, maybe that means we'll see a bigger crowd from Galway now.

I'd also point out that Mayo have been getting large crowds for league games and even FBD games for a long time now, well before Horan came along in fact.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/06/2022 09:41:34    2428238

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Replying To midlands:  "I always find it very sad when people sneer at Mayo - some on these forums and some smart alecs in the media who see themselves as serious punters. Where would football have been in the last decade without Mayo? Everyone agrees that Dublin have been an absolutely brilliant team but we tend to forget that Mayo went toe to toe with them regularly. A couple of drawn games they could have won and a few narrow defeats along the way. No other county posed such a consistent threat and in the end Mayo was the county that brought Dublin's magnificent run to an end. We should be thanking them for saving the All-Ireland Gaelic football championship from being a complete procession of easy Dublin victories. And I'd agree with an earlier poster who suggested that 2014 should have been their year, but for some awful officiating in Limerick's Gaelic Grounds."
Agree, I never understand it either. Mayo 2014 - 2018 were certainly the best team never to win an All Ireland but a lot better than many teams that did win it over the years. They were an outstanding team and went toe to toe with the best team ever. 2014 is probably the biggest regret for them but there were very small margins in the Dublin finals as well. Timing is everything and that Mayo team couldn't of arrived at a worst time. What they'd give to have the 14-18 team now for a few years. They built some team and set up but just got the timing wrong but you can't impact that. Hopefully they regroup quickly as the GAA has enough big counties struggling without losing Mayo as well.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 28/06/2022 11:51:28    2428276

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The first thing that need 2 be done whoever takes over is insist that mayo wear there traditional jerseys them ones they have are cat it might sound like a small thing but need 2 be done ,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 28/06/2022 11:59:44    2428279

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Best of luck to James Horan in his retirement. He turned a soft centred team into tough hard players who gave great service and entertainment for a decade. A team that had a never say die attitude and never face up."
Horan sounds like the man we need to fix Donegal's problems, he done so well with Mayo and like Rochford came so close to winning the Sam Maguire,
he is also a great pundit, I hope we see him back managing again sometime.
Mayo will continue to be a top team no doubt about that, is Andy Moran the man to take over now or is it too soon for an ex player of the recent era?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 28/06/2022 12:01:24    2428281

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