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I think they should take a year out and recuperate..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 05/07/2022 12:57:54    2429852

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Replying To Belclare:  "I think they should take a year out and recuperate.."
Ur spot on and watch galway go win it ,and none of the hype and b##$hit leading n2 it either (this could be our year %()

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 327 - 05/07/2022 13:16:00    2429863

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Replying To A***pirate:  "Genuine question, do Galway football fans travel to watch the Galway hurlers, and Galway hurling fans vice versa?

Strikes me as two completely different fanbases, the west of Galway following the footballers with the east following the hurlers."
I'm from North-East Galway (traditional football heartland) but follow both, always have done. This could be because when I was a young lad starting out in the late '80s and early '90s our hurlers were strong, but footballers not so much. There's no hurling club for miles, but I'd follow a certain club due to family connections.
I've always thought we in Galway should embrace being a true dual county more, and can't stand any bickering/pettiness between both codes (you'll see some of that on here regularly).

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 512 - 05/07/2022 15:16:51    2429910

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Replying To Mattyreilly:  "I think if Lee keegan had taken the penalty
Against tyrone last year. Mayo would have an allireland"
Ryan was always going to to take that penalty. Played soccer for Ireland schoolboys and Sligo Rovers. Scored one in the same goal in the Connacht Final. The pressure of the biggest game got to him, unfortunately, as it does to a lot of our players.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 05/07/2022 19:02:45    2429966

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Hhhm

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 05/07/2022 19:33:53    2429974

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A thread about Mayo football and 29 posts from Galway accounts compared to 25 from Mayo ones. It's not even about Mayo v Galway but the obsession is unreal.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 05/07/2022 19:36:07    2429976

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Ryan was always going to to take that penalty. Played soccer for Ireland schoolboys and Sligo Rovers. Scored one in the same goal in the Connacht Final. The pressure of the biggest game got to him, unfortunately, as it does to a lot of our players."
As Keegan ever taken a penalty for club or county?

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 06/07/2022 15:27:48    2430119

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Replying To ponga:  "A thread about Mayo football and 29 posts from Galway accounts compared to 25 from Mayo ones. It's not even about Mayo v Galway but the obsession is unreal."
Obsession? Says the poor fella counting posts...

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 06/07/2022 16:10:12    2430140

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Replying To Yondu:  "As Keegan ever taken a penalty for club or county?"
Don't know. Would be surprised if he never has done.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 06/07/2022 17:13:39    2430154

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I don't know how the Mayo folk coped with the last 10 years. A hair's width of beating a great Dublin side on more than one occasion. Looking back its still hard to believe they didn't land one. Unfortunately they are going to have to start all over again and will be doing very well if they can come up with a team even 75% as good as the one we've all come to know so well.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8748 - 06/07/2022 18:02:42    2430163

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Replying To ponga:  "A thread about Mayo football and 29 posts from Galway accounts compared to 25 from Mayo ones. It's not even about Mayo v Galway but the obsession is unreal."
I and a few others answered a question from a Mayo supporter about the split of support between hurling and football in Galway. It would be rude to ignore it. :)
I also have a keen interest in Mayo football. More so than any other county apart from my own, I'd say. The reasons would hardly need explaining.
Neighbouring county, football mad, big rivals and a top performing team for the past decade.
We're also playing each other in an All-Ireland minor final on Friday.
Plenty to 'obsess' about.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2318 - 06/07/2022 18:25:37    2430168

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Replying To ponga:  "A thread about Mayo football and 29 posts from Galway accounts compared to 25 from Mayo ones. It's not even about Mayo v Galway but the obsession is unreal."
Its a knock on impact of the hogan stand strategy of consolidating the threads. Pre this change i rarely visited non Galway threads. Now i have a glance at them all and once you glance there will always be posts that you feel compelled to reply to. Also the fact that they are brought out into what appears to be a national type forum i dont think there should be an issue where the posts come from. Any one that wants is welcome to post on Galway related threads. Sometimes its good to get honest fair feedback.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 06/07/2022 21:13:10    2430184

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Replying To Belclare:  "Obsession? Says the poor fella counting posts..."
When there's nothing left to be said.......

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 07/07/2022 07:28:39    2430190

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Its a knock on impact of the hogan stand strategy of consolidating the threads. Pre this change i rarely visited non Galway threads. Now i have a glance at them all and once you glance there will always be posts that you feel compelled to reply to. Also the fact that they are brought out into what appears to be a national type forum i dont think there should be an issue where the posts come from. Any one that wants is welcome to post on Galway related threads. Sometimes its good to get honest fair feedback."
Unfortunately some Mayo people are a bit sensitive and think honest fair feedback of Mayo players or the team is criticism. Even if it's criticism there's plenty of valid points being made. I think an outside manager might be good good for us, not sensitive to criticism, ignoring the politics and picking the best squad he sees where no-one is guaranteed a place and playing tactics for the games in front of them. Otherwise we can expect similar outcomes.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 07/07/2022 10:27:18    2430221

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I think Horan deserves great credit for what he did with Mayo. No disrespect but teams like Dublin or Kerry never feared Mayo before Horan although Mayo bt Kerry in 96 and Dubs in 06 but after Horan instilled a toughness both Kerry and Dublin in particular had a fear of Mayo. I'm not in the know of Mayo lads in the reckoning but maybe McStay /McHale ticket might be vack on the cards although they were hurt the last time and said they d never go again. Our own Eamonn Fitzmaurice would be a good fit for Mayo I'd think but not sure he wants to manage anyone but Kerry. For me Malachy Ó Rourke would be a great scoup.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3911 - 08/07/2022 21:07:43    2430572

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There is a way for Mayo to be back in contention next year.
It's a fairly simple one too.
Mayo were under strength all year, primarily to over playing of sigerson players and a few other unlucky ones.

Fix that and they are as good as any team from 3-8.
Even under strength they are still in that bracket.

The other item that need improvement is their attacking strategy. A focus on getting the correct guys shooting from the D is required.

When Rochford took over in 16, he changed the running style of 12-14 and got Mayo's conversion rate from 50% to 66%.
That philosophy got Mayo the highest conversion rate by any team in an all ireland in 2017, except Dublin went even higher that day.

That change in style retained the high pressure, hard tackling of the first Horan era and reduced the reliance on the half back line to get scores.

Wether it's Solan or Dempsey that takes over, they need to keep the majority of what was done very well by Horan and add a focus on creating and taking higher percentage shots.

Tyrone looked a beaten docket at the end of the Harte era only to bounce back and win the next year by keeping the good bits and adding an attacking edge with the same players.

A Mayo team with Mullin, Keegan, Durcan, the O Connors, Ruane, E Mcloughlin, Donoghue and Conroy won't be far away next year.
Especially if you get another level of improvement from Plunkett, Hession, Flynn, Mchale and McDonagh

A few new ideas could get another 10% from Coen, Loftus, Carr and Harrison

Put all of that together and you have a 15 as good as anyone.

Add in a breakthrough years from two of : Callinan, Towey, Orme, Carney, McHugh or Moran and all of a sudden you have a serious all ireland contender again.

All of which is possible as the standards ingrained by Horan won't go away if the right man is put in place to lead them.

There is more than enough talent there, a lot of Mayo's problems come from giving away early goals and not taking the goal chances they do get. All of which is fixable.
The players mentioned above are market leaders in effort, tackling, fitness etc - a bit of finess is all that is required.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1382 - 09/07/2022 08:32:08    2430589

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "There is a way for Mayo to be back in contention next year.
It's a fairly simple one too.
Mayo were under strength all year, primarily to over playing of sigerson players and a few other unlucky ones.

Fix that and they are as good as any team from 3-8.
Even under strength they are still in that bracket.

The other item that need improvement is their attacking strategy. A focus on getting the correct guys shooting from the D is required.

When Rochford took over in 16, he changed the running style of 12-14 and got Mayo's conversion rate from 50% to 66%.
That philosophy got Mayo the highest conversion rate by any team in an all ireland in 2017, except Dublin went even higher that day.

That change in style retained the high pressure, hard tackling of the first Horan era and reduced the reliance on the half back line to get scores.

Wether it's Solan or Dempsey that takes over, they need to keep the majority of what was done very well by Horan and add a focus on creating and taking higher percentage shots.

Tyrone looked a beaten docket at the end of the Harte era only to bounce back and win the next year by keeping the good bits and adding an attacking edge with the same players.

A Mayo team with Mullin, Keegan, Durcan, the O Connors, Ruane, E Mcloughlin, Donoghue and Conroy won't be far away next year.
Especially if you get another level of improvement from Plunkett, Hession, Flynn, Mchale and McDonagh

A few new ideas could get another 10% from Coen, Loftus, Carr and Harrison

Put all of that together and you have a 15 as good as anyone.

Add in a breakthrough years from two of : Callinan, Towey, Orme, Carney, McHugh or Moran and all of a sudden you have a serious all ireland contender again.

All of which is possible as the standards ingrained by Horan won't go away if the right man is put in place to lead them.

There is more than enough talent there, a lot of Mayo's problems come from giving away early goals and not taking the goal chances they do get. All of which is fixable.
The players mentioned above are market leaders in effort, tackling, fitness etc - a bit of finess is all that is required."
Rochford needs to be re-instated otherwise they risk falling further behind Galway , and it may last for a good decade if they go down the un-proven route and get it wrong..
Likes of Solan-Dempsey would make you cringe..

Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 09/07/2022 20:13:52    2430832

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I think Horan deserves great credit for what he did with Mayo. No disrespect but teams like Dublin or Kerry never feared Mayo before Horan although Mayo bt Kerry in 96 and Dubs in 06 but after Horan instilled a toughness both Kerry and Dublin in particular had a fear of Mayo. I'm not in the know of Mayo lads in the reckoning but maybe McStay /McHale ticket might be vack on the cards although they were hurt the last time and said they d never go again. Our own Eamonn Fitzmaurice would be a good fit for Mayo I'd think but not sure he wants to manage anyone but Kerry. For me Malachy Ó Rourke would be a great scoup."
Mayo actually beat Kerry in '96, Meath beat them in the Final after a replay and the infamous brawl

LilywhiteGael (Kildare) - Posts: 120 - 09/07/2022 20:24:51    2430855

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Replying To LilywhiteGael:  "Mayo actually beat Kerry in '96, Meath beat them in the Final after a replay and the infamous brawl"
I said that in my post that Mayo bt Kerry in 96and bt Dublin in 06.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3911 - 10/07/2022 13:22:00    2431023

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Replying To Vish:  "Rochford needs to be re-instated otherwise they risk falling further behind Galway , and it may last for a good decade if they go down the un-proven route and get it wrong..
Likes of Solan-Dempsey would make you cringe.."
Rochford will send Mayo backwards.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1206 - 10/07/2022 18:03:47    2431121

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