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Replying To tirawleybaron: "The method play has been found out. A new method of play is required which will require at least 2-3 forwards being asked to stay patient and save their energy for taking scores. Less solo runs and more kicking from the halfback line is required to get ahead of retreating defenders. The Dublin 6 in a row team were very good at moving upfield with kick passes - we never learnt that lesson from them. Now every team pulls back a double sweeper v Mayo to block runners. We had no long range shooters to pull those sweeers out." I thought Mayo used to kick more. I can't recall anytime yesterday they kicked long, it was soloing and handpassing out of defence. Considering the pace and power they have it was such a waste not to kick more, especially when Kerry got so many back. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 784 - 27/06/2022 11:08:01 2427916 Link
Mayo will continue, Div 1 team with massive support base with one of the biggest season ticket sales, good sponsors & are still producing young players. What really needs to happen is a clean sweep of M'ment & the old guard, especially those who used to dictate what happened. They don't need naming but at least 7 need to retire. Bringing back in another ex manager after Horan would be a disaster. Mistake made this year was removing ROD from frees when ROD was the star player for Mayo all year, it sent out a bad message. Mayo need to ensure they get the right people in place to bring the team forward & need to bring in a Caroline Currid type figure with a proven track record in sports psychology. Current team (older group) will never win an All Ireland & sadly two brain farts, one on the sideline prior to a final & one on the pitch by a player cost them two All Ireland's. Sadly no one remembers who lost All Ireland's as time goes by, just the winners. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/06/2022 12:02:45 2427938 Link
Replying To oneoff: "I said to the person I was watching with after he scored that point he'd do nothing else for the game and he didn't. Cillian O Connor was another who the game just passed by to the degree I had forgotten he was even playing until the end of the game." Hands were tied last few weeks with TOD and Conroy injured but imo Mayos forwards look better when COC isn't playing in recent years. Too greedy and slows it down too much. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 27/06/2022 12:14:21 2427943 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "Hands were tied last few weeks with TOD and Conroy injured but imo Mayos forwards look better when COC isn't playing in recent years. Too greedy and slows it down too much." Such nonsense. He was up for player of the year before getting a serious Achilles injury. Our forwards were poor last September vs Tyrone too so can't blame Cillian there. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 27/06/2022 12:44:54 2427952 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Mayo will continue, Div 1 team with massive support base with one of the biggest season ticket sales, good sponsors & are still producing young players. What really needs to happen is a clean sweep of M'ment & the old guard, especially those who used to dictate what happened. They don't need naming but at least 7 need to retire. Bringing back in another ex manager after Horan would be a disaster. Mistake made this year was removing ROD from frees when ROD was the star player for Mayo all year, it sent out a bad message. Mayo need to ensure they get the right people in place to bring the team forward & need to bring in a Caroline Currid type figure with a proven track record in sports psychology. Current team (older group) will never win an All Ireland & sadly two brain farts, one on the sideline prior to a final & one on the pitch by a player cost them two All Ireland's. Sadly no one remembers who lost All Ireland's as time goes by, just the winners." It was only the Galway game where ROD and Cillian were on the pitch together. ROD got 4 from play that day so obviously didn't let it affect him. It's mad how people make up these theories trying to stir the pot. Also I'm not sure where you're getting 7 to retire. Only 5 outfield players on the panel are 30+. That includes Cillian who just turned 30 last month and Keegan who's still in great form. We have a young panel overall so it's not the big end of an era some are making out. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 27/06/2022 12:51:01 2427956 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "Hands were tied last few weeks with TOD and Conroy injured but imo Mayos forwards look better when COC isn't playing in recent years. Too greedy and slows it down too much." Bit harsh on COC, he was probably the best forward in the country in 2020 (won an allstar) then had that horrendous injury last year that ruled him out for a year. He clearly hasn't been up to speed this year coming back from that injury. I think it will be fairer to judge him next year when he gets a full pre-season under his belt and see can he get anywhere back to his best. Will be difficult though, isn't getting any younger and hard to come back from that injury. Be interesting to see if Keegan stays on, what a player he has been and still is (Kept Paudie Clifford so quiet yesterday). Must be Mayo's greatest player of all time. Be a sad day IMO when he retires. maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 169 - 27/06/2022 13:14:23 2427974 Link
Mayo, like all the other teams who have been knocked out including our current Champions, go again next year. SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 27/06/2022 13:14:53 2427977 Link
If I put in a post and don't include the O Connors will it be added? Anyways Mayo need to give James Horan another term and give all the older lads a chance of getting an all Ireland medal.. Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 27/06/2022 13:22:00 2427980 Link
There's always next year for Mayo. Those lads always come back. But the vibe I got yesterday was that they went down without much of a fight which is so unlike Mayo. A few more retirements could be on the horizon. I still look back at that moment of madness from Donal Vaughan in 2017 final. What could of been. fielder (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 27/06/2022 13:31:20 2427982 Link
It's amazes me the fascination every time we get knocked out of the championship. Truth be told we were like a punch drunk boxer this year just waiting for the fatal blow…an underwhelming Kerry duly provided that. There will be a few retirements and I'm hoping a change in management. Build and go again like every other county. There is only one winner every year… yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 27/06/2022 13:32:07 2427983 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "It's amazes me the fascination every time we get knocked out of the championship. Truth be told we were like a punch drunk boxer this year just waiting for the fatal blow…an underwhelming Kerry duly provided that. There will be a few retirements and I'm hoping a change in management. Build and go again like every other county. There is only one winner every year…" Ya but 71 years ... very underwhelming for a so called gaa county.. Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 27/06/2022 13:43:53 2427991 Link
James Horan has done great things for Mayo football in his two spells in charge. Taking us out of the dark days of John O'Mahony's second term, bringing in some fresh, hungry, brilliant talent. But it's time for new blood in management to bring in the next era of Mayo football. Easier said than done but talking about the difference the absentees would have made and always looking for excuses doesn't improve us one bit. We're the keyboard warriors here. Players, coaches, selectors, county board etc will rightly not look on social media for advice from us to run the county team. They have to live in the real world. Maigh Eo Abú. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 27/06/2022 13:49:53 2427997 Link
The loss of ROD and more so Tommy was huge no doubt, but if Lee goes I think it is expecting way too to think that the likes of himself, Higgins, Barrett and Boyle can be replaced with players of similar ability. They were top of the pops and had all star performances in almost every game they played. Lee got them over the line v Monaghan and Kildare but the misses drained the energy out of the backs in the second half yesterday. I always thought that 2014 was the peak for that team even though they did not reach the final, those 2 games v Kerry were epic with the latter being very poorly refed. Don't think the players (some anyway) fully bought into the Rochford playbook and looking back he came so close and would surely won had Vaughan not be sent off. They will have no problem attracting a high profile manager if they choose to go that route. giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1222 - 27/06/2022 15:36:02 2428058 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "James Horan has done great things for Mayo football in his two spells in charge. Taking us out of the dark days of John O'Mahony's second term, bringing in some fresh, hungry, brilliant talent. But it's time for new blood in management to bring in the next era of Mayo football. Easier said than done but talking about the difference the absentees would have made and always looking for excuses doesn't improve us one bit. We're the keyboard warriors here. Players, coaches, selectors, county board etc will rightly not look on social media for advice from us to run the county team. They have to live in the real world. Maigh Eo Abú." but you spend all your day reporting those who dont share your views.. Hearing you've upset alot of folk in Erris..bad move. Vish (USA) - Posts: 88 - 27/06/2022 16:29:39 2428084 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "James Horan has done great things for Mayo football in his two spells in charge. Taking us out of the dark days of John O'Mahony's second term, bringing in some fresh, hungry, brilliant talent. But it's time for new blood in management to bring in the next era of Mayo football. Easier said than done but talking about the difference the absentees would have made and always looking for excuses doesn't improve us one bit. We're the keyboard warriors here. Players, coaches, selectors, county board etc will rightly not look on social media for advice from us to run the county team. They have to live in the real world. Maigh Eo Abú." Definitely time for fresh ideas, but I don't see many standout candidates to become manager. Most of the outsider names being mentioned live the other side of the country! Then the question is will any change be better than no change? MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 27/06/2022 16:31:45 2428085 Link
Replying To Belclare: "Ya but 71 years ... very underwhelming for a so called gaa county.." We know our record and we know it's shocking. We are a proud GAA county though. That won't change. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 27/06/2022 16:46:31 2428092 Link
Replying To MayoDan: "Definitely time for fresh ideas, but I don't see many standout candidates to become manager. Most of the outsider names being mentioned live the other side of the country! Then the question is will any change be better than no change?" It probably won't in 2023 or 2024 or maybe for a bit longer than that until we get a new squad of players under new management. But the improvement made between 2011 and 2017 has dropped off since. Missing a lot of the top performers from that era is part of that drop off but keeping Horan in charge doesn't look it'll bring a bounce in form. So if he stays a big change in the backroom team, a new outlook, a forwards coach and God knows what else should be considered. All well and good to keep saying we don't have scoring forwards. Having gameplans to give them confidence in front of goal and encouraging a bit more risk taking rather than shoot miss, shoot miss, get ball shot shy no shot look to win a free might be a good start. It's a bit like soccer internationals getting behind the ball in cautious gameplans for their country but they're serious attacking threats for their clubs where they're encouraged to get on the front foot more. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 27/06/2022 17:03:15 2428102 Link
Time for a fresh face at the helm and to ditch a couple more of the old guard perhaps. They didn't have the intensity in the second half, the hunger seemed to have drained from them and they've lost the bite of the old days up front when you had Dillon, Freeman, Moran, Higgins and McLoughlin in their prime causing havoc. I think they kicked 7 or 8 wides in the second half alone yesterday. They'll still be in the mix next year though. Some decent young fellas coming through. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/06/2022 17:14:38 2428111 Link
Horans gone... Vish (USA) - Posts: 88 - 27/06/2022 17:20:42 2428116 Link
Well Horan has stepped down. Has done loads of good work over his 2 terms. Will be interesting to see what names are in the mix now. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 27/06/2022 17:29:44 2428123 Link