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Replying To Lockjaw: "Another Premier League soap opera (I mean season) is due to begin. Predictions.. 1. Man City 2. Arsenal 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool 5. Newcastle 6. Chelsea Top Scorer: Haaland POTY: Saka" Man City Arsenal Liverpool Chelsea Newcastle Spurs Man U Top Scorers Haaland Salah Diaz POTY Saka Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4734 - 22/08/2023 14:44:08 2501781 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "She has an excellent chance of a medal this evening. It looks like there are 4 in the final who will be battling for the medals. Kaczmarek, Paulino, Klaver and Adeleke. Based on form, they appear to be a class apart from the rest. How the medals will fall is anyone's guess. It's a great opportunity this year, with Miller-Uibo not at her best for obvious reasons. It'll probably be tougher at the Olympics next year if she's back in form. Paulino might be the favourite, but Kaczmarek has beaten her twice recently and is in serious form. Rhasidat has had a long season in the US college system, but we've seen what she's capable of. She's very young and has the potential to improve a lot more. She's a hugely exciting athlete and I hope she comes away with something this evening." Not on this evening though........ Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3840 - 22/08/2023 18:20:00 2501827 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Another Premier League soap opera (I mean season) is due to begin. Predictions.. 1. Man City 2. Arsenal 3. Man Utd 4. Liverpool 5. Newcastle 6. Chelsea Top Scorer: Haaland POTY: Saka" Man City Arsenal Liverpool Man Utd Newcastle Chelsea Top Scorer Haaland Perhaps Evan Ferguson as young player of the year As for player of the year I'll take the easy option and say Haaland DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 300 - 22/08/2023 19:07:58 2501831 Link
What a lady, what an athlete and what a great ambassador for Ireland. Ciara ran an incredible race, first European to pass the line and just 1s behind the silver medalist. One of the great post race interviews also… https://youtu.be/JIT39NysEcw Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4734 - 23/08/2023 10:08:20 2501856 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Not on this evening though........" No. A lot of the athletics fans didn't realise that our best woman athlete was actually in a final last night. Just missed out on a bronze. Possibly will never beat the great Kenyan Kipyegon, but a good prospect for a medal in Paris next year. And from a good Down hurling family too! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2990 - 23/08/2023 11:09:31 2501871 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "No. A lot of the athletics fans didn't realise that our best woman athlete was actually in a final last night. Just missed out on a bronze. Possibly will never beat the great Kenyan Kipyegon, but a good prospect for a medal in Paris next year. And from a good Down hurling family too!" Book out today, The life of Fr Patrick Ryan, AKA The Padre. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2133 - 23/08/2023 12:47:45 2501902 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Book out today, The life of Fr Patrick Ryan, AKA The Padre." Good Tipp man! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2990 - 23/08/2023 13:28:36 2501918 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Not on this evening though........" I got ahead of myself. Didn't realise the 400m had a 2-day break between semis and the final. Ciara was brilliant last night in the 1,500m. An absolute world class performance. She was already very good, but she has gone to another level this year. She's comfortably beaten Laura Muir a few times this year and finished ahead of all the British girls last night. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2155 - 23/08/2023 13:50:27 2501926 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "I got ahead of myself. Didn't realise the 400m had a 2-day break between semis and the final. Ciara was brilliant last night in the 1,500m. An absolute world class performance. She was already very good, but she has gone to another level this year. She's comfortably beaten Laura Muir a few times this year and finished ahead of all the British girls last night." Another level is right, and at age 31 as well. Athletics is a sport that will always raise eyebrows with some skeptics, in relation to some of these 'notable improvements'. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3840 - 23/08/2023 14:47:08 2501947 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Another level is right, and at age 31 as well. Athletics is a sport that will always raise eyebrows with some skeptics, in relation to some of these 'notable improvements'." It will indeed and it's healthy to be sceptical. You can look at the overall picture as well though. Ciara was a world class junior runner. She came through with a lot of expectation, so the natural talent was there. She's not some unknown who popped up in her late 20s having done very little previously. Her improvement has also been gradual over the past 3 or 4 years. A commonwealth medal, then a European bronze and now a world class performance. It doesn't stand out as particularly unusual, but at the same time I'd never be surprised by any athlete going outside the approved shopping list. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2155 - 23/08/2023 17:29:08 2501978 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Book out today, The life of Fr Patrick Ryan, AKA The Padre." Read a book there recently Killing Thatcher. The bauld Padre gets a few mentions. Some boy. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9477 - 23/08/2023 17:30:25 2501979 Link
Replying To Joxer: "What a lady, what an athlete and what a great ambassador for Ireland. Ciara ran an incredible race, first European to pass the line and just 1s behind the silver medalist. One of the great post race interviews also… https://youtu.be/JIT39NysEcw" Fantastic interview by Ciara Mageean after coming 4th in the World Championships. Hopefully a major sponsor will get behind her and give her some additional help in preparing for next years Olympics in Paris. A fantastic role model for young sports people. Interview well worth listening to. See Joxer's link above. Very done to Rhasidat Adeleke in also coming 4th in the 400m tonight. While the gold medal won by Marileidy Paulino was never really in doubt (outstanding time/performance) the long season in America finally caught up with Rhasidat. Her best time of the year 49.20 well beat both the silver medal (49.57) and the bronze medal (49.60) times in the final. She should be very proud of her achievements this year and really look forward to peaking for the Olympics next year. (Not physically possible to be in top form all year from January to September) Congratulations also to Sarah Lavin in breaking Derval O'Rourke's long held Irish record tonight. I will expect that all three athletes and hopefully many others will have great support once again in Paris next year. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 614 - 23/08/2023 22:22:09 2502000 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "It will indeed and it's healthy to be sceptical. You can look at the overall picture as well though. Ciara was a world class junior runner. She came through with a lot of expectation, so the natural talent was there. She's not some unknown who popped up in her late 20s having done very little previously. Her improvement has also been gradual over the past 3 or 4 years. A commonwealth medal, then a European bronze and now a world class performance. It doesn't stand out as particularly unusual, but at the same time I'd never be surprised by any athlete going outside the approved shopping list." Her improvement is incremental rather than spectacular. Apart from younger Kenyans and Ethiopians the best Europeans usually peak at a later age over the middle and longer distances, I believe? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2990 - 24/08/2023 10:47:47 2502035 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Another level is right, and at age 31 as well. Athletics is a sport that will always raise eyebrows with some skeptics, in relation to some of these 'notable improvements'." Ciara Mageean has been an outstanding athlete for years and has qualified for a previous World Championship final. She had to deal with the death of her previous coach Gerry McKiernan and has shown very gradual improvement over the last two years breaking the National Irish record on a couple of occasions. Why not enjoy her success rather than try to distroy her great performance at the World Championship. Galway football performance improved VASTLY last year. Did not see your questioning their very fast and enhanced performance at that time Pope. Paul Conroy is well over 31. You surely not suggesting that Paul and the like of Liam Silke who can run forever, had questions to answer ALSO? I am certainly NOT!!! (Names used only to explain my position) You need to cop yourself on Pope, rather than suggest that a 31 year old Irish athlete may have questions to answer, now that she has performed well on the World stage. I actually expect Ciara and Rhasidat Adeleke to do very well (medal contenders) at next years Olypics and hope to go to Paris to support them along with many other supporters and believers. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 614 - 24/08/2023 12:18:27 2502052 Link
Replying To letsgetgoing: "Ciara Mageean has been an outstanding athlete for years and has qualified for a previous World Championship final. She had to deal with the death of her previous coach Gerry McKiernan and has shown very gradual improvement over the last two years breaking the National Irish record on a couple of occasions. Why not enjoy her success rather than try to distroy her great performance at the World Championship. Galway football performance improved VASTLY last year. Did not see your questioning their very fast and enhanced performance at that time Pope. Paul Conroy is well over 31. You surely not suggesting that Paul and the like of Liam Silke who can run forever, had questions to answer ALSO? I am certainly NOT!!! (Names used only to explain my position) You need to cop yourself on Pope, rather than suggest that a 31 year old Irish athlete may have questions to answer, now that she has performed well on the World stage. I actually expect Ciara and Rhasidat Adeleke to do very well (medal contenders) at next years Olypics and hope to go to Paris to support them along with many other supporters and believers." Well said. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2990 - 24/08/2023 13:09:38 2502065 Link
Replying To letsgetgoing: "Ciara Mageean has been an outstanding athlete for years and has qualified for a previous World Championship final. She had to deal with the death of her previous coach Gerry McKiernan and has shown very gradual improvement over the last two years breaking the National Irish record on a couple of occasions. Why not enjoy her success rather than try to distroy her great performance at the World Championship. Galway football performance improved VASTLY last year. Did not see your questioning their very fast and enhanced performance at that time Pope. Paul Conroy is well over 31. You surely not suggesting that Paul and the like of Liam Silke who can run forever, had questions to answer ALSO? I am certainly NOT!!! (Names used only to explain my position) You need to cop yourself on Pope, rather than suggest that a 31 year old Irish athlete may have questions to answer, now that she has performed well on the World stage. I actually expect Ciara and Rhasidat Adeleke to do very well (medal contenders) at next years Olypics and hope to go to Paris to support them along with many other supporters and believers." Kiernan, not McKiernan. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3840 - 24/08/2023 13:23:02 2502069 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Another level is right, and at age 31 as well. Athletics is a sport that will always raise eyebrows with some skeptics, in relation to some of these 'notable improvements'." Daft post. I don't mind people being skeptical if there is a solid basis for it, but not in this case. She hasn't just come from nowhere. She was flagged as world class as a Junior. Has had her ups and downs in recent years with injuries and personal issues but she has been building well for 3 or 4 years. She finished 4th, she didn't suddenly come from nowhere and beat the favourites. She was top European which is probably her at her peak. She is a big race runner now but she might sneak a medal at the Olympics if things go her way but I still don't think she will. That's a fair analysis. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8077 - 24/08/2023 14:57:51 2502090 Link
Ciara is the best Irish athlete in a generation. The best Irish performance at the championships but as usual there are people who like to try and take her down. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2990 - 25/08/2023 00:51:00 2502163 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Daft post. I don't mind people being skeptical if there is a solid basis for it, but not in this case. She hasn't just come from nowhere. She was flagged as world class as a Junior. Has had her ups and downs in recent years with injuries and personal issues but she has been building well for 3 or 4 years. She finished 4th, she didn't suddenly come from nowhere and beat the favourites. She was top European which is probably her at her peak. She is a big race runner now but she might sneak a medal at the Olympics if things go her way but I still don't think she will. That's a fair analysis." I didn't declare myself to be a skeptic on this matter, nor did I name any skeptics whatsoever in relation to it. Just one or two posters getting overexcited about nothing here. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3840 - 25/08/2023 08:02:37 2502167 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "I didn't declare myself to be a skeptic on this matter, nor did I name any skeptics whatsoever in relation to it. Just one or two posters getting overexcited about nothing here." Ah here. You mentioned her age and also referred to her big improvements in inverted commas. You are a smart lad and you what you were inferring. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8077 - 25/08/2023 11:33:44 2502194 Link