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People who admittedly dont support/follow rugby that much are very dismissive of rugby calling these games "tests". why do you get so wound up by it? New Zealand are the bench mark. this was a first test series defeat at home for them in around 30 years or so. Ireland became only fifth team to defeat the All Blacks down there in a Test series and the first to do so in the professional era. Hopefully we do build on this as we will have to beat New Zealand or France(in a french hosted world cup) in a world cup quarter final Rugby treats these games far more serious than many soccer internationals so the comparison with brazil in soccer is irrelevant. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 16/07/2022 18:15:38 2432382 Link 1 |
Wound up? Pot /kettle there. I was only making an observation. Most other sports would see these contents as glorified exhibitions but if the cultures different in rugby then do be it. Sorry for being born like..... Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 16/07/2022 18:42:22 2432384 Link 2 |
Other sports have different traditions. theyre not friendlies. theyre far older than a world cup. we've been playing test matches against New Zealand since 1905. The world cup has only existed since 1987. there is a lot more to rugby than succeeding in a world cup which the dismissers of rugby dont seem to get. these tests are so far from exhibitions. its rather sad people seem to think that. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 16/07/2022 19:55:18 2432397 Link 2 |
It isn't sad, Rugby has grown it's interest and fanbase and I understand the significance of test match rugby, but I'm a casual rugby fan, like millions of others we'll never look past genuine competitions like the 6 nations and World Cup. For the traditional rugby fan they might look at it differently but I still think in the professional era the World Cup has taken over as the pinnacle of the sport, that is where Ireland need to step up, the potential is there if they manage the four year cycle in the same way other rugby nations do. I think we've peaked a year early again. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 16/07/2022 20:16:20 2432400 Link 0 |
Forget about your friendly matches, what about the real good chance of two Irishmen winning the open golf 2 years in a row. Harrington won 2 in a row. This could be 6 Irish winners in 15 years.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 16/07/2022 21:26:23 2432410 Link 2 |
What do you mean by we'll never look past genuine competitions like 6 nations and world cup Ireland do need to step up at a world cup and to be fair in the last couple of world cup campaigns beforehand we did all the right things but disappointed in the tournaments themselves. we are still very much evolving who we play and how we play and its a bit much to be crystal balling and saying we have peaked too early. still plenty of room for improvements in how we played before november, the 6 nations next spring and then the tournament in france in 14 months time KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 16/07/2022 21:31:26 2432411 Link 0 |
But they are really. If they aren't friendlies what competition are they?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 16/07/2022 21:39:52 2432413 Link 0 |
These rugby series are highly prestigious as are all 'test' matches. You just have to look at the meltdown New Zealand are having because of it. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 16/07/2022 21:44:10 2432414 Link 2 |
I'm just a casual fan but I meant the 6 nations and World Cup have become such huge, lucrative tournaments in the professional era, I'm delighted Ireland won today by the way. As for the World Cup you know more than me, but we clearly haven't did everything right before World Cups. It is more than just disappointing at them, in my opinion we haven't got the four year cycle right compared to other countries. Even today, despite all the positives there were Irish players who looked to be struggling in that second half, 14 months and a lot of rugby is a long time before the tournament even starts. We're ready for a World Cup and if it was this autumn we could maybe win it, but that's because most other teams aren't ready. Lets hope 2023 is different but what we're seeing now is very similar to 2010, 2014 and 2018, the year before a WC. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 16/07/2022 22:03:39 2432417 Link 0 |
Theyre part of the Ireland-New Zealand 2022 test series. Look at how jubiliant Ireland were/are after winning the series and the criticism new zealand are getting for losing.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 17/07/2022 10:31:50 2432435 Link 1 |
Does it matter. theyre a lot more than friendlies. look at how the irish reacted after winning. Look at how new zealand, fans its media are all treating the loss. they exist far longer than world cups. theyre more than friendlies. theyre test matches. the ultimate top level of the sport KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 17/07/2022 11:03:04 2432439 Link 1 |
Number 2 ranked team in the world wins away to number 4 ranked team in the world. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 17/07/2022 11:47:06 2432443 Link 1 |
theyre more than friendlies. theyre test matches. the ultimate top level of the sport if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 17/07/2022 11:50:47 2432444 Link 1 |
A bit like Armagh in the Ulster Championship
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 17/07/2022 12:21:57 2432446 Link 1 |
The Golf should be good today at The Open. McIlroy in with a real chance though Hovland is due for a huge win. World Number 1 Sheffler is hanging around too as is Dustin Johnson. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 17/07/2022 12:56:17 2432458 Link 1 |
Just a pity Lowry dropped so many in his last 9 yesterday.
Neartheborder (Derry) - Posts: 56 - 17/07/2022 13:46:41 2432464 Link 0 |
Must have missed the cup presentation. How many teams were involved?
Neartheborder (Derry) - Posts: 56 - 17/07/2022 13:50:09 2432467 Link 0 |
I'm worse than Spillane, I could stop a train. Better not say who I think will win football next week.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 17/07/2022 18:39:17 2432532 Link 0 |
DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 17/07/2022 19:11:48 2432546 Link 0 |
There was a cup presentation
DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 17/07/2022 19:13:30 2432547 Link 0 |