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Replying To WEX98:  "Wexford played Clare 18th June.

Wexford championship started Tuesday 28th June
Round 2 was 4 days later July 2nd
Third round will be 9th July
Fourth is 16th July
Fifth is 23rd July

It's not a spilt season it's a condensed season."
Yes but the club championships will still only be just finished in time for the leinster club championships

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5543 - 06/07/2022 10:00:40    2430011

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "BTW, the ball did not into Nash. It was Mike Casey was on and nearest to Brian Concannon when he got the goal."
That's who I ment Casey, he got cleaned out with the only long ball that went into him!! Jez yer full back were vulnerable and there to be exposed.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 1674 - 06/07/2022 10:21:50    2430018

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Replying To tiobraid:  "While Limerick have serious composure and trust in the way they play, I think fitness has become massively understated and underrated in the modern game. Tipp for example clearly have not had the fitness levels to go with Limerick for 70+ mins and to be honest I dont think anyone else has either. Hannon and Nash are prime examples, they are still going 100% at the final whistle of every game. I'd love see the gps stats on the Limerick players. Kk put together a lovely piece of play from the back on saturday with 5/6 players running off the shoulder of the passer. Limerick do that almost every play. I dont think Limerick are necessarily ahead of other teams in terms of skill level but their fitness, tactics and ability to play as a team combined is well ahead of everyone else. Playing out from the back with short passes allows the last player a bit of space and time to hit those passes into the corners in front of Gillane and Flanagan.
While people say Galway lost composure and maybe they did, I feel that as you get tired you invariably go long and for me thats what happened."
You nailed this one tiobraid.
Wexford lost to Clare because they didn't have 70 minutes of hurling in them and injuries to players like Shane Reck (who had kept Tony Kelly very quiet).
They lost to Tipp in 2019 because they didn't have the legs then either. Tired legs = bad decisions.
While it is a 20 man game now, every player needs to be able to go for 80 minutes now. Limerick are the masters at this at the moment.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 315 - 06/07/2022 10:34:25    2430023

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Does anybody know if lohansredhelmet made it back from Dublin after the match yet?
Hasn't been a word from him this week after a summer of, well, boisterous and confident posting.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 315 - 06/07/2022 10:36:11    2430024

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Did Lohan not speak with the media after the match last Sat ? , was there a reason given ?

LimkABU (Limerick) - Posts: 71 - 06/07/2022 11:37:12    2430050

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Really can't wait for this final. I'd put it 55/45 in limericks favour but I'm predicting a cracker.
We've had one good final the last 8 years (2017) though I suppose the 2018 final was interesting for the last 2 minutes.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1263 - 06/07/2022 12:11:28    2430062

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Really can't wait for this final. I'd put it 55/45 in limericks favour but I'm predicting a cracker.
We've had one good final the last 8 years (2017) though I suppose the 2018 final was interesting for the last 2 minutes."
The handicap is 3 points. Printing money in my opinion. Genuinely dont see this being a close game. It maybe close for 45-50 mins but that'll be it - in my opinion.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3587 - 06/07/2022 14:38:25    2430105

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Does anybody know if lohansredhelmet made it back from Dublin after the match yet?
Hasn't been a word from him this week after a summer of, well, boisterous and confident posting."
Its a pity himself and Katser didnt hook up and hibernate together for the winter

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3587 - 06/07/2022 14:39:22    2430106

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Replying To LimkABU:  "Did Lohan not speak with the media after the match last Sat ? , was there a reason given ?"
Not the most gracious when results don't go his way.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 241 - 06/07/2022 14:46:09    2430111

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Replying To LimkABU:  "Did Lohan not speak with the media after the match last Sat ? , was there a reason given ?"
He didn't. Not sure why though.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 18 - 06/07/2022 15:12:00    2430116

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "You nailed this one tiobraid.
Wexford lost to Clare because they didn't have 70 minutes of hurling in them and injuries to players like Shane Reck (who had kept Tony Kelly very quiet).
They lost to Tipp in 2019 because they didn't have the legs then either. Tired legs = bad decisions.
While it is a 20 man game now, every player needs to be able to go for 80 minutes now. Limerick are the masters at this at the moment."
The injury to Rory O Connor was a bigger factor in my opinion, he was worth 3 or 4 more points and the game would of gone completely from Clare.

2019 was different, there's no team that could play Davys style of hurling for 80 minutes and Davy didn't really use a 20 man panel.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 18 - 06/07/2022 15:16:38    2430117

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Replying To Dec82andahalf:  "The injury to Rory O Connor was a bigger factor in my opinion, he was worth 3 or 4 more points and the game would of gone completely from Clare.

2019 was different, there's no team that could play Davys style of hurling for 80 minutes and Davy didn't really use a 20 man panel."
The injury to Rory O'Connor went without saying, but Wexford nearly bet Clare without him and but for an injury (regardless of how it was inflicted) to Shane Reck was the turning point.
That was it, Davy didn't have a 20 man panel in 2019 and if he had, and had they been a little fitter, I think Wexford would have beaten Tipp and won the All-Ireland.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 315 - 06/07/2022 15:43:51    2430126

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What I find unusual is john keenan facilitated one of the greatest munster finals in living memory and hasn't had a job to do since. Colm Lyons performance in Ennis was roundly criticised by players past and present and former referees who included Brian gavin who felt Lyons doesn't have what it takes anymore for the really big days and since then was appointed linesman in the munster final, ref for wex v clare and now AI final referee. For me it's an unnecessary appointment and huge focus will come on the ref which was easily avoidable by HQ. I personally have no problem with him and neither will the limerick panel but its a strange call.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 834 - 06/07/2022 15:45:11    2430128

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Replying To tiobraid:  "The handicap is 3 points. Printing money in my opinion. Genuinely dont see this being a close game. It maybe close for 45-50 mins but that'll be it - in my opinion."
Limerick have been put to the pin of their collar the last 2 games, kikenny have been brilliant, for sure, if limerick come out and just steamroll them I wouldn't be shocked, but without hindsight I do think it'll be good.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1263 - 06/07/2022 15:49:00    2430133

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Replying To katser:  "That's who I ment Casey, he got cleaned out with the only long ball that went into him!! Jez yer full back were vulnerable and there to be exposed."
Jamesie O' Connor echoed this as a weakness in Limerick's full back line that Galway exposed, and that Brian Cody will exploit! He certainly has the tools in TJ and Walter Walsh to do just that. Kiely is an astute manager,and will work on his full back line in the next few weeks. Casey is vulnerable.Cody and Kiely are the best 2 managers in the game by far!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 06/07/2022 16:10:25    2430141

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "The injury to Rory O'Connor went without saying, but Wexford nearly bet Clare without him and but for an injury (regardless of how it was inflicted) to Shane Reck was the turning point.
That was it, Davy didn't have a 20 man panel in 2019 and if he had, and had they been a little fitter, I think Wexford would have beaten Tipp and won the All-Ireland."
You can't call being 6 points up after 60 minutes, nearly beating a team. 6 points is nothing in Hurling, its 2 scores. There was more than Kelly who did damage at the end of that game, there was 5 other players who really made a difference.

I'll agree to disagree about 2019.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 18 - 06/07/2022 16:11:43    2430142

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Limerick have been put to the pin of their collar the last 2 games, kikenny have been brilliant, for sure, if limerick come out and just steamroll them I wouldn't be shocked, but without hindsight I do think it'll be good."
Limerick had 2 tough games v Clare and Galway. They scored late points to win both games, extra time v Clare. A third challenge is coming from Kilkenny, maybe the biggest from a team with a good panel of players. It could go either way but I think the last 4 years efforts may be affecting Limerick. The final will be an intriguing one, Kilkenny seeking to win their first title since 2015, and Limerick looking for 3 in a row, and trying to reverse the 2019 result, where the Cats prevailed.
Just my own view, but we could have new Liam McCarthy holders in 2023.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1374 - 06/07/2022 18:30:29    2430170

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Replying To Rockies:  "Jamesie O' Connor echoed this as a weakness in Limerick's full back line that Galway exposed, and that Brian Cody will exploit! He certainly has the tools in TJ and Walter Walsh to do just that. Kiely is an astute manager,and will work on his full back line in the next few weeks. Casey is vulnerable.Cody and Kiely are the best 2 managers in the game by far!"
Well the Galway goalie launched high ball after high ball down on the Limerick full back line for most of the last 10 minutes and the boys cleared every ball with ease. Were that FBL that weak after all. Sure Gillane and Flanagan scored eight points between them and Mulcahy was fouled three times, from which two points emerged. And our Full back line conceded very few frees throughout the whole game.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3740 - 06/07/2022 21:59:06    2430187

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Replying To Rockies:  "Jamesie O' Connor echoed this as a weakness in Limerick's full back line that Galway exposed, and that Brian Cody will exploit! He certainly has the tools in TJ and Walter Walsh to do just that. Kiely is an astute manager,and will work on his full back line in the next few weeks. Casey is vulnerable.Cody and Kiely are the best 2 managers in the game by far!"
Galway thought Johnny Glynn would do the same in 2018 and Casey went to town on him. High ball against Limerick rarely works. Can you name another incident apart from the Concannon goal where Limerick have been caught out? I doubt you can..

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3587 - 07/07/2022 08:49:26    2430195

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Replying To daveboy:  "What I find unusual is john keenan facilitated one of the greatest munster finals in living memory and hasn't had a job to do since. Colm Lyons performance in Ennis was roundly criticised by players past and present and former referees who included Brian gavin who felt Lyons doesn't have what it takes anymore for the really big days and since then was appointed linesman in the munster final, ref for wex v clare and now AI final referee. For me it's an unnecessary appointment and huge focus will come on the ref which was easily avoidable by HQ. I personally have no problem with him and neither will the limerick panel but its a strange call."
I dont really think its worth focusing on whos refereeing but the narrative is that everyone liked Keenans performance apart from the so called powers that be....given he got no more games that seems to be the case

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3587 - 07/07/2022 08:51:24    2430196

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