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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "Congratulations to Ballygunner on their very fortunate victory. The real All Ireland champions this year must be St Thomas's of Galway as they were robbed by Ballyhale Shamrocks in the same way as Shamrocks were robbed by Ballygunner. A last minute goal from distance that the Ballyhale keeper Mason should have saved. Such is the luck of the game."
On this logic there is a list as long as the great wall of china of lucky winners over the years between GAA, Soccer and Rugby...

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 16/02/2022 14:16:59    2400700

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Replying To wexico15:  "On this logic there is a list as long as the great wall of china of lucky winners over the years between GAA, Soccer and Rugby..."
Never mind the fraud FatLadySinging. Always has something bitter to say.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 16/02/2022 15:31:35    2400717

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Replying To wexico15:  "On this logic there is a list as long as the great wall of china of lucky winners over the years between GAA, Soccer and Rugby..."
Longer I'd say. People always underestimate the role luck plays in sport.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5581 - 16/02/2022 15:46:58    2400725

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Don't let Canuck see that. Poor fella won't be able to accept that they needed luck to win it. ."
I didn't have to say anymore because the true Wexford people on hear did not let it go. Now you have pivoted to the game after all you had to offer at the start was an attack on a player and a club. If you were paying attention I did say Ballygunner were lucky. To garnish that luck they got themselves within two points. No disrespect to Mason but O'Keeffe would probable stop both. However they were two good goals. No flukes and goals win games.
With regards clubs I lived in Kilkenny within 10 minutes of Ballyhale for 15 years of my life. They like Ballygunner deserve credit with where they have come from. Two small clubs Knocktopher and Ballyhale came together and are now a dynasty in Kilkenny.
You actually brought the worst out in me because I do not call other posters names. Incidentally you are still clown.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2230 - 16/02/2022 20:55:34    2400786

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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "Congratulations to Ballygunner on their very fortunate victory. The real All Ireland champions this year must be St Thomas's of Galway as they were robbed by Ballyhale Shamrocks in the same way as Shamrocks were robbed by Ballygunner. A last minute goal from distance that the Ballyhale keeper Mason should have saved. Such is the luck of the game."
St. Thomas's own fault no more than Limerick against Offaly in 1994, bringing back too many to defend the TJ Reid free, then its "i thought he had it, he thought the other lad had it" scenario...the Waterford goal was from play and whether the Ballyhale keeper "should" have saved it is immateirial, as play was live and ongoing (not a set piece from distance)..how anyone would intimate that Ballygunner "got lucky" per say..have Waterford hurling not had tons of bad luck over the years, and to have luck against anyteam from Kilkenny is rare how ever they manage it..well done Ballygunner, every dog has his day..I dont begrudge ye one bit of it..hard luck to St. Thomas's and indeed St.Rynaghs who had Ballyhale beaten too, but facts are they lost concentration at crucial time, Ballygunne focussed theirs...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 928 - 17/02/2022 09:47:11    2400810

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Replying To Canuck:  "I didn't have to say anymore because the true Wexford people on hear did not let it go. Now you have pivoted to the game after all you had to offer at the start was an attack on a player and a club. If you were paying attention I did say Ballygunner were lucky. To garnish that luck they got themselves within two points. No disrespect to Mason but O'Keeffe would probable stop both. However they were two good goals. No flukes and goals win games.
With regards clubs I lived in Kilkenny within 10 minutes of Ballyhale for 15 years of my life. They like Ballygunner deserve credit with where they have come from. Two small clubs Knocktopher and Ballyhale came together and are now a dynasty in Kilkenny.
You actually brought the worst out in me because I do not call other posters names. Incidentally you are still clown."
True Wexford people? You mean one person and at that one who can't process truth or facts and throws tantrums when they do see them. Anyone in Wexford realises Ballygunner is a townie club and with a ridiculous pick and almost unlimited resources. That is not an attack on the club, that is saying it as it is. O' Keefe would not have let it in, no. It was shocking goal to let in, 25 yards out the goalkeeper should not be beaten. Ballyhale are a fantastic club and run on the etho's the GAA should run, unlike Ballygunner. That is all that was pointed out. To call other posters names, just because you don't like what you see says enough about the person that you are. Incidentally, we can see what your all about again in your last post.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 17/02/2022 11:18:45    2400827

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You have not a clue when it comes to the origin of Ballygunner or how it is structured today. Their sister club whom they play football for is Gaultier half ways to Dunmore East. Bulterstown's pitch at the Holy Cross on the south side is closer to the city than the Ballygunner pitch as the city has grown in that direction and they are a country team. This is where Kevin O' Mahony grandfather of the Ballygunner boys farms, played and lives. A real "townie" eh ? You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about Ballygunner claiming their ethos is not like Shamrocks. Why do you think they amalgamated two clubs only to increase their pick. I can tell you Knocktopher is three times the sizes of my parish in Waterford but we choose to plough along in junior or intermediate. I don't disrespect Ballyhale for that. It is their choice.
Give it a rest when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2230 - 17/02/2022 14:14:30    2400858

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not getting into the tit for tat above, suffice to comment on "goal keeper should not be beaten from 25 yds etc." you have to take everything into account, yes of course a certain degree of luck is involved, the conditions were probably the biggest factor, did the goal not grip properly when diving etc. etc. only he will know that, that said the attacker had to have the belief he might score, and take a shot, it was last chance saloon and it worked, fair plays to the chap and Ballygunner...havent Kilkenny robbed teams blind before, I dont get all this "robbed Ballyhale" in the background thinking...have Kilkenny and Ballyhale not won enough?? I detect a bit of "south east rivalry here" but no need for anyone to be taking this sor personal, its not as the team that lost was a minnow who will never win a county final, let alone an All Ireland Club final again...if goal keepers should stop every shot from far out, we would never have seen John Fentons "ivomec" add goal from 1987 against Limerick in the Munster semi final replay, or the combinaton goal of the same John Fenton and Jimmy Barry Murphy in the 1983 All Ireland hurling semi final (voted the best goal of all time I might add) as the ball travelled in flight from Cork half back line into JBM who gave a deft touch overhead from around 20 yds out deflecting it to the net...should the Galway keeper have saved that?..should one of th greatest ever keepers the late Tommy Quaid of Limerick saved John Fentons "ivomec" add goal off the ground?...maybe, but you have to accept exceptional things happen and that makes the sport..well done Ballygunner, and please let them, Waterford, a county steeped in hard luck over the years, enjoy their win...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 928 - 17/02/2022 15:18:06    2400872

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "not getting into the tit for tat above, suffice to comment on "goal keeper should not be beaten from 25 yds etc." you have to take everything into account, yes of course a certain degree of luck is involved, the conditions were probably the biggest factor, did the goal not grip properly when diving etc. etc. only he will know that, that said the attacker had to have the belief he might score, and take a shot, it was last chance saloon and it worked, fair plays to the chap and Ballygunner...havent Kilkenny robbed teams blind before, I dont get all this "robbed Ballyhale" in the background thinking...have Kilkenny and Ballyhale not won enough?? I detect a bit of "south east rivalry here" but no need for anyone to be taking this sor personal, its not as the team that lost was a minnow who will never win a county final, let alone an All Ireland Club final again...if goal keepers should stop every shot from far out, we would never have seen John Fentons "ivomec" add goal from 1987 against Limerick in the Munster semi final replay, or the combinaton goal of the same John Fenton and Jimmy Barry Murphy in the 1983 All Ireland hurling semi final (voted the best goal of all time I might add) as the ball travelled in flight from Cork half back line into JBM who gave a deft touch overhead from around 20 yds out deflecting it to the net...should the Galway keeper have saved that?..should one of th greatest ever keepers the late Tommy Quaid of Limerick saved John Fentons "ivomec" add goal off the ground?...maybe, but you have to accept exceptional things happen and that makes the sport..well done Ballygunner, and please let them, Waterford, a county steeped in hard luck over the years, enjoy their win..."
Let alone Paul Flynn's goal on Donal Og in 2004. Flynn to this now will not say whether he went for goal out of modesty. Another Ballygunner player scoring a goal that had a major impact.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2230 - 17/02/2022 17:03:16    2400892

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This peeing competition over which is or is not a "real club" is childish.

Urban and rural clubs both do the same thing. Some more successfully than others. My own club is dwarfed by the bigger Dublin city teams, which is a product of lots of things from location to history to schools and relative success.

There are Tipp clubs i know not a hundred miles from Thurles who wouldn't be putting out blue and white flags if Sarsfields reached a club final! Likewise, there were no more enthusiastic supporters of Kilcoo last weekend than some of Crokes not too distant neighbours!

That's normal enough resentment :-) However, the idea that the big clubs should turn people away when they get to a certain size is a bit silly. Or that they become lesser members of CLG when they have two under 12s.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 659 - 17/02/2022 17:22:45    2400895

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Replying To countyman2022:  "True Wexford people? You mean one person and at that one who can't process truth or facts and throws tantrums when they do see them. Anyone in Wexford realises Ballygunner is a townie club and with a ridiculous pick and almost unlimited resources. That is not an attack on the club, that is saying it as it is. O' Keefe would not have let it in, no. It was shocking goal to let in, 25 yards out the goalkeeper should not be beaten. Ballyhale are a fantastic club and run on the etho's the GAA should run, unlike Ballygunner. That is all that was pointed out. To call other posters names, just because you don't like what you see says enough about the person that you are. Incidentally, we can see what your all about again in your last post."
I don't call poster names. Just you.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2230 - 17/02/2022 18:25:20    2400902

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