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Kilcoo V Kilmacud Crokes

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Your right BarneyGrant, if people care to watch the highlights of the 86 final between Kerry and Tyrone, Pat Spillane's goal is a carbon copy of goals we see today, the commentator remarks about lots of fist passing from both teams. It's not against the rules so why do people complain."
I'm old to remember when you could handpass to the net in both football and hurling. From the hand, not as not in football where you can guide ball into net.

The great Tony Doran - one of my heroes - was a master of the hurling version. Pat was no slouch when it came to the handpassed football goal.

Reason there is a handpass of course is that otherwise you could just bottle up a player and force him to drop it. There's already enough unsightly rucks as it is.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3534 - 14/02/2022 13:11:38    2400292

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I think teams are getting too obsessed with getting the keeper involved in the play. The kilmacud keeper coming off his line and hoofing it was a costly mistake,though they shouldn't have run into a deadend

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2878 - 14/02/2022 13:15:51    2400294

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "I think teams are getting too obsessed with getting the keeper involved in the play. The kilmacud keeper coming off his line and hoofing it was a costly mistake,though they shouldn't have run into a deadend"
Disaster waiting to happen. Kilcoo boy was cute enough watching him all through and noticed that a few times he'd stayed behind him! Only needs to happen once. As Tyrone almost found to their cost last year as well. High risk.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3534 - 14/02/2022 13:30:03    2400297

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'm old to remember when you could handpass to the net in both football and hurling. From the hand, not as not in football where you can guide ball into net.

The great Tony Doran - one of my heroes - was a master of the hurling version. Pat was no slouch when it came to the handpassed football goal.

Reason there is a handpass of course is that otherwise you could just bottle up a player and force him to drop it. There's already enough unsightly rucks as it is."
Likewise here Barney, I remember as a kid watching Tony drag the whole full-back line into the back of the net, after catching an impossible ball.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 14/02/2022 16:40:15    2400343

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "I think teams are getting too obsessed with getting the keeper involved in the play. The kilmacud keeper coming off his line and hoofing it was a costly mistake,though they shouldn't have run into a deadend"
obsessed yes and perhaps could understand it if the keeper had good skills and one of the defenders was willing to drop back and cover the goal but it was neither from Kilmacud.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3617 - 14/02/2022 16:49:10    2400349

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "I think teams are getting too obsessed with getting the keeper involved in the play. The kilmacud keeper coming off his line and hoofing it was a costly mistake,though they shouldn't have run into a deadend"
Agree both codes. Coming out to drive it wides the majority of the time. The refs needs to let the other team restart but is too busy writing the score in his book that someone else could do. Primitive. Once the goalie gets caught out a few times that will end it. Hurling is worse where the goalie is taking the free with a plank. Regulation needed for use of an outfield stick,

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3046 - 14/02/2022 18:16:35    2400375

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Replying To Neartheborder:  "How did the ref gave a free to Conor Laverty with about 10 minutes to go. Going towards goal, gets to 20 metre line and lies down. That point got Kilcoo back into game. Ref favoured Kilcoo."
Total nonsense from you and your mate Tom, UTM

germac (Down) - Posts: 561 - 14/02/2022 19:03:29    2400383

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Replying To TheUsername:  "So you know people whose children were born in Dublin, who play club football in Dublin - when will this injustice end.

You have a Dublin mate, whose parents are from Tipp, whose kids play for Crokes - essentially the kidsGrandparents are from Tipp.

Ergo, Crokes are a county, team that a hell of a jump.

Almost all that whole team are from the area, very unfair.

And you can give over with the David Vs Goliath analogy, Micky Moran isn't there for a bag of crisps with his Porter down the local in Kilcoo….."
Every player on the Kilcoo team went to the same small rural primary school, they had so send on two players who had already been substituted such is the extent of their resources. 400 club members versus well over 4000 so yes this was a Samson and Goliath match up. dry your eyes.

Bronxmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 5 - 15/02/2022 10:50:56    2400434

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Replying To Tom1916:  "should the referee not be from a neutral province as the tyrone man clearly favoured kilcoo, ps niall brannigan never shut his mouth sledging the kilmacud player the whole match, disgraceful."
Think you were watching a different match, ref obviously over compensated for being from the same province and gave Crokes a lot more than he gave Kilcoo

Bronxmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 5 - 15/02/2022 10:54:57    2400436

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Replying To downtothecore:  "Crossmaglen?"
He he he ha ha ha, you are not a bitter man at all are you now. Jealousy has an ugly face

Bronxmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 5 - 15/02/2022 10:57:05    2400439

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "You say he clearly favoured Kilcoo. We have a Tyrone person posting earlier that the ref did his best to help Kilmacud.
The poor ref just can't win."
really, Ryan Johnston was emptied in the back at the end of normal time with ref standing right beside him and he din't give it. a definite free that would have probably ended the game in normal time, but the ref bottled it.
I thought the ref did a decent job, you only have to look at the ref in Kilcoos semi final to see what a bad refereeing performance looks like (worst I have ever seen)

Bronxmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 5 - 15/02/2022 11:01:23    2400441

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Kilmacud got a very soft one themselves to put them 2 up in extra time. I don't think the ref favoured either team, to be honest.
There were a few decisions which looked a bit soft on both sides."
Agreed, thought ref was consistent for the most part

Bronxmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 5 - 15/02/2022 11:10:03    2400443

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