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Kilcoo V Kilmacud Crokes

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "What's really annoying about all Dublin crowd's booing of freetakers is the lack of criticism by commentators, media or GAA officialdom.
If it was any other County the commentators etc would be condemning it in the strongest terms.
How about an official announcement over public address calling in the booers to desist?"
Unfortunately jeering of opposition wides is normal now , and not exclusive to dubs fans. Example . Kerry fans in dublin game.a week ago.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 13/02/2022 11:47:32    2400065

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Replying To Tom1916:  "should the referee not be from a neutral province as the tyrone man clearly favoured kilcoo, ps niall brannigan never shut his mouth sledging the kilmacud player the whole match, disgraceful."
Crossmaglen?

downtothecore (Down) - Posts: 349 - 13/02/2022 12:23:11    2400072

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Replying To Tom1916:  "should the referee not be from a neutral province as the tyrone man clearly favoured kilcoo, ps niall brannigan never shut his mouth sledging the kilmacud player the whole match, disgraceful."
You say he clearly favoured Kilcoo. We have a Tyrone person posting earlier that the ref did his best to help Kilmacud.
The poor ref just can't win.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 13/02/2022 12:55:55    2400077

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Congrats to Kilcoo, fully deserved, great club

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 13/02/2022 12:58:31    2400078

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "What's really annoying about all Dublin crowd's booing of freetakers is the lack of criticism by commentators, media or GAA officialdom.
If it was any other County the commentators etc would be condemning it in the strongest terms.
How about an official announcement over public address calling in the booers to desist?"
Booooooooo!

People have been crying about the Dubs booing free takers for 40 years or so.

Happens in loads of games between loads of different counties. Anyone with half a brain and at least one working ear can see that but some lads like yourself can only hear and see what you want.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 13/02/2022 13:56:32    2400091

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Should this game not have been Wolfe Tones (Meath) vs Ramor United (Cavan) after all the other counties got cancelled last September?

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1030 - 13/02/2022 16:12:16    2400118

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Congrats to Kilcoo, have totally dominated their county championship and won back to back provincial championships and now the cherry on top of the cake by winning the All-Ireland.

On the match itself it won't live long in the memory for many neutral viewers. Two sides with a focus on defending and possession based football with loads of sideways and backwards hand passing. Kilmacud lost the game twice, truly awful game management in normal time and extra time. The goal keeper should have made a routine save on the 1st goal and why was he out of his goal for the 2nd one? They'll watch that match back with much regret.

Plenty of teams with potential will have watched that match yesterday with much encouragement as there is no side at the moment way ahead of the rest.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 13/02/2022 17:41:07    2400151

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Before I start and get accused of anti-football it was my first love. This horrible crap being played. In 10 minutes of overtime the ball was going backwards for 8 and one point scored. In 20 minutes plus of overtime it was going backwards 15 minutes. What has happened the great game. Some of the passes makes no sense. a player in the open passes to where a player has two bearing down on him so it has to go back further or get turned over. It is time for a 30 or 40 meter line where the ball must go forward. New better ball winning skills will develop. If these players want soccer go and play it.
Congrats to the winners Kilcoo.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 13/02/2022 18:46:03    2400169

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Replying To Canuck:  "Before I start and get accused of anti-football it was my first love. This horrible crap being played. In 10 minutes of overtime the ball was going backwards for 8 and one point scored. In 20 minutes plus of overtime it was going backwards 15 minutes. What has happened the great game. Some of the passes makes no sense. a player in the open passes to where a player has two bearing down on him so it has to go back further or get turned over. It is time for a 30 or 40 meter line where the ball must go forward. New better ball winning skills will develop. If these players want soccer go and play it.
Congrats to the winners Kilcoo."
Get rid of or severely limit that blight on the game called handpassing!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 13/02/2022 19:45:08    2400187

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Replying To Canuck:  "Before I start and get accused of anti-football it was my first love. This horrible crap being played. In 10 minutes of overtime the ball was going backwards for 8 and one point scored. In 20 minutes plus of overtime it was going backwards 15 minutes. What has happened the great game. Some of the passes makes no sense. a player in the open passes to where a player has two bearing down on him so it has to go back further or get turned over. It is time for a 30 or 40 meter line where the ball must go forward. New better ball winning skills will develop. If these players want soccer go and play it.
Congrats to the winners Kilcoo."
I totally agree and the muck being played by my own county is as bad as any, many of the clubs here play the same type of sh1te, I'd rather watch the women's football, it's more honest and played the right way. Gaelic football is mostly rubbish these days,, then there's also the sledging/bullying etc. going on.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 13/02/2022 20:47:56    2400205

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Get rid of or severely limit that blight on the game called handpassing!"
There's always been handpassing in gaelic football. If you thought for one minute about what would happen if it was banned you would realise why/

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 13/02/2022 21:02:09    2400210

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Makes you appreciate even more the way Corofin played their football
While winning 3 Alli irelands clubs in a row

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 13/02/2022 21:33:44    2400217

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Booooooooo!

People have been crying about the Dubs booing free takers for 40 years or so.

Happens in loads of games between loads of different counties. Anyone with half a brain and at least one working ear can see that but some lads like yourself can only hear and see what you want."
It's not acceptable full stop. Doesn't matter who is doing it but kilmacud crowd were particularly bad yesterday, I was in croke park as a neutral, hurling was top class football final was a horrible watch

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 13/02/2022 22:00:32    2400225

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Congrats to Kilcoo fully deserved and what a great club.
As for the game Kilcoo dont care what people think its looks like on tv or to supporters all they care was winning and thats what they did. Kilmacud were 1-2 mins away from winning and would have had the same mentality.

As for the second goal what were Kilmacud at theres a minute or two left and there two free men in and around the square the defending was shocking.

naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 481 - 14/02/2022 08:46:06    2400229

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Replying To Tom1916:  "should the referee not be from a neutral province as the tyrone man clearly favoured kilcoo, ps niall brannigan never shut his mouth sledging the kilmacud player the whole match, disgraceful."
How did the ref gave a free to Conor Laverty with about 10 minutes to go. Going towards goal, gets to 20 metre line and lies down. That point got Kilcoo back into game. Ref favoured Kilcoo.

Neartheborder (Derry) - Posts: 56 - 14/02/2022 09:50:20    2400241

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Replying To rhudson:  "Makes you appreciate even more the way Corofin played their football
While winning 3 Alli irelands clubs in a row"
Corofin were great to watch as were Dublin at more or less the same time and Killarney Crokes and our Vinnies and others played similar attacking football.

That's no longer the template as Dublin changed to high press possession game once their best forwards were no longer there, and the most successful club teams play a similar brand. I thought the final was good to watch for whole other reasons and it certainly couldn't be faulted for excitement.

As regards both finals, they were both decided by goals that if you scripted them for a TV show they'd have been considered too far fetched. There's no accounting for the unexpected, which is why people watch all sorts of sport.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 14/02/2022 10:02:19    2400245

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Great for Kilcoo to win but the game as a spectacle was woeful…. Football is getting close to unwatchable.. It will get to the stage that nobody in their right mind would be willing to pay in to see such boring rubbish….!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1928 - 14/02/2022 10:05:53    2400246

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Replying To rhudson:  "Makes you appreciate even more the way Corofin played their football
While winning 3 Alli irelands clubs in a row"
Corofin won 3 in a row playing the same type of football with many more hand passes than kick passes, just as Dublin did. in their AI's. Most of us do not like this type of game. I watched the Dublin county final and it was difficult affair visually. McGuinness started it and everyone followed like sheep. Teams go out to win and rightly are not concerned about who likes their style. The game has not been helped by tinkering with the rules adding more making it almost impossible to ref correctly. The ref had a very good game unlike the semi-final and all folk make mistakes including the teams and sideline.
We making the comments make few mistakes!!!!!!!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 14/02/2022 10:21:05    2400256

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "There's always been handpassing in gaelic football. If you thought for one minute about what would happen if it was banned you would realise why/"
Your right BarneyGrant, if people care to watch the highlights of the 86 final between Kerry and Tyrone, Pat Spillane's goal is a carbon copy of goals we see today, the commentator remarks about lots of fist passing from both teams. It's not against the rules so why do people complain.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 14/02/2022 11:55:45    2400277

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Replying To Neartheborder:  "How did the ref gave a free to Conor Laverty with about 10 minutes to go. Going towards goal, gets to 20 metre line and lies down. That point got Kilcoo back into game. Ref favoured Kilcoo."
Kilmacud got a very soft one themselves to put them 2 up in extra time. I don't think the ref favoured either team, to be honest.
There were a few decisions which looked a bit soft on both sides.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 14/02/2022 12:28:18    2400282

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