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Looking foward to this one, If its a good dry day, Kilcoos fitness and pace hopefully will get them over the line by 3 or 4 germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 09/02/2022 19:34:32 2399592 Link
Replying To germac: "Looking foward to this one, If its a good dry day, Kilcoos fitness and pace hopefully will get them over the line by 3 or 4" Kilcoo have been very impressive so far. Crokes be the best defence they've faced so far so should be interesting. I'd marginally fancy Kilcoo. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 10/02/2022 09:27:41 2399610 Link
Kilcoo by 6-8 points. kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 103 - 10/02/2022 10:38:39 2399624 Link
Kilcoo by 3 or 4 points, I think the loss of Mannion will be a big factor. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/02/2022 11:00:04 2399627 Link
Replying To wexico15: "Kilcoo by 3 or 4 points, I think the loss of Mannion will be a big factor." That's like a 3/4 point handicap. He's not been at his very best but he's the centre of their attack and difficult to see where they will compensate for that. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 10/02/2022 11:25:46 2399630 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "That's like a 3/4 point handicap. He's not been at his very best but he's the centre of their attack and difficult to see where they will compensate for that." Even if he doesn't stand out he would be a big headache for Kilcoo, there best main marker could pick him do a good job or he could be doubled marked and another less heralded Kilmacud forward could come to the fore in that situation, that element is less likely to occur now. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/02/2022 11:59:18 2399635 Link
From what I've seen kilcoo look to have everything to win this one..brilliant to defend but the transition to attack has been very effective..it's great to watch..kilmacud have kinda stuttered through to the final and that's without one of the best forwards in the country..looking forward to see what kilcoo do about getting past o Carroll who for me has been outstanding..always seems to be in right place at right time..won't be surprised if this one goes to extra time.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2214 - 10/02/2022 14:16:54 2399662 Link
No Mannion, no chance. Without him Crokes are ordinary enough for this level and Kilcoo are far from ordinary. I think Crokes will make Kilcoo work for it but that the Down boys will ultimately have too much. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 10/02/2022 14:43:33 2399667 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "No Mannion, no chance. Without him Crokes are ordinary enough for this level and Kilcoo are far from ordinary. I think Crokes will make Kilcoo work for it but that the Down boys will ultimately have too much." Funnily enough, I thought they were much better against Naas without Mannion than they were against Portarlington when he was available. He's obviously a big loss, but one thing that's clear about Crokes is the depth of their panel. This was very apparent in the Dublin county final as well as the Leinster final. Forwards who hadn't started previously, or who came off the bench performed even better than those they replaced. Different forwards have stepped up in the last 2 games. With most club sides, there's a drop-off in quality once you start going up the numbers in the panel. Crokes don't seem to have this issue, most likely due to bigger pool of players they have. I've seen a lot of Kilcoo this year and hope they get over the line, but I think this one will go down to the wire. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2039 - 10/02/2022 16:11:54 2399684 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "Funnily enough, I thought they were much better against Naas without Mannion than they were against Portarlington when he was available. He's obviously a big loss, but one thing that's clear about Crokes is the depth of their panel. This was very apparent in the Dublin county final as well as the Leinster final. Forwards who hadn't started previously, or who came off the bench performed even better than those they replaced. Different forwards have stepped up in the last 2 games. With most club sides, there's a drop-off in quality once you start going up the numbers in the panel. Crokes don't seem to have this issue, most likely due to bigger pool of players they have. I've seen a lot of Kilcoo this year and hope they get over the line, but I think this one will go down to the wire." That's because Portarlington are a much better side than Naas. Mannion a magic player and will be massive loss. Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 10/02/2022 20:42:50 2399734 Link
Replying To Malonemagic: "That's because Portarlington are a much better side than Naas. Mannion a magic player and will be massive loss." I agree Malonemagic. Paul Mannion is a huge loss to Kilmacud. He is their marquee forward. Kilcoo have been very impressive to this point. Their win against Glen was immense. They also overcame a terrific Barr's challenge in the semi final. They have the experience, the know how and the talent to overcome whatever challenge they face. The one team they could not overcome was Corofin. That's understandable given that Corofin are the greatest club team of them all. It will be a competitive game on Saturday. I said before the Glen v Kilcoo game that the winner of that game would win the All Ireland. I've seen nothing to change my mind. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 10/02/2022 21:06:00 2399740 Link
Wonder will the blond bombshell Mark Vaughan make an appearance?!? :P A last minute pressure free to seal the deal for Crokes! It'd be some story! In all seriousness though I think Crokes will give Kilcoo a right good rattle. But Mickey Moran is such a shrewd coach and there's definitely a feeling of unfinished business with the Down men having lost the big one last time out to Corofin. I'd give Kilcoo the noid by about 3-4 points. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9133 - 11/02/2022 08:51:06 2399750 Link
Replying To Malonemagic: "That's because Portarlington are a much better side than Naas. Mannion a magic player and will be massive loss." They may be, but I wouldn't bet on it. Naas went to pot in the 2nd half of the Crokes game. If they played Portarlington next week, I wouldn't be so sure of the winner. Mannion is obviously a top player and a huge loss. However, Crokes have better depth to deal with such a loss than most clubs. Their other forwards have stepped up in his absence. I certainly wouldn't write them off, but I think Kilcoo might just edge it. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2039 - 11/02/2022 12:19:19 2399785 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "They may be, but I wouldn't bet on it. Naas went to pot in the 2nd half of the Crokes game. If they played Portarlington next week, I wouldn't be so sure of the winner. Mannion is obviously a top player and a huge loss. However, Crokes have better depth to deal with such a loss than most clubs. Their other forwards have stepped up in his absence. I certainly wouldn't write them off, but I think Kilcoo might just edge it." Mannion has not been scoring a great deal this year. Best game scoring wise was I think the Dublin quarter final when he got 4/5?. He was chipping in with frees as well but Crokes have that mostly covered. He is of course a nightmare to watch and not surprised he is key part of the sideline for the final as his positional and match sense is brilliant. Still fancy Kilcoo just about but Crokes will not be easily beat. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 11/02/2022 15:24:36 2399837 Link
I don't buy the No Mannion, no chance. Poor mouth talk. This is a strong Kilmacud Crokes team with sub options that would be starting on almost every other team. They won both the Leinster final and All Ireland semi final without Mannion by a bit to spare. Kilcoo lost their last All Ireland final to Corofin and perhaps they'll use that as motivation. Both Kilcoo and Kilmacud have a strong focus on holding the opposition to low scores so I'm not expecting a high scoring classic. Hard game to call but have a feeling the Dubs will shade it and it might take extra time to separate the two. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3346 - 11/02/2022 17:03:49 2399855 Link
Crokes will have too many aces for a limited Kilcoo. Crokes by 4 to 6 points. seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 12/02/2022 13:41:31 2399915 Link
Replying To seamusorinn: "Crokes will have too many aces for a limited Kilcoo. Crokes by 4 to 6 points." They haven't looked limited to me! Not often an Ulster final is won as easily and as soon as their win over Derrygonnelly. And while Harps mightn't be great, Kilcoo did it efficiently. They look like an accomplished team, as indeed are Crokes so should be close and interesting. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 12/02/2022 14:47:16 2399921 Link
Kilcoo look absolutely clueless here. Running into blind alleys. Steelstown would be a better match for Crokes. summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 12/02/2022 17:33:44 2399954 Link
Congrats to Kilcoo. Man but that was a cruel outcome for Crokes, they really didn't deserve to loose. Cruel. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/02/2022 19:11:54 2399973 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "I don't buy the No Mannion, no chance. Poor mouth talk. This is a strong Kilmacud Crokes team with sub options that would be starting on almost every other team. They won both the Leinster final and All Ireland semi final without Mannion by a bit to spare. Kilcoo lost their last All Ireland final to Corofin and perhaps they'll use that as motivation. Both Kilcoo and Kilmacud have a strong focus on holding the opposition to low scores so I'm not expecting a high scoring classic. Hard game to call but have a feeling the Dubs will shade it and it might take extra time to separate the two." With a minute to go in extra time it looked like my prediction was going to spot on. What was the Kilmacud Crokes players complaining about on that 2nd goal? seemed like a fine goal for me. Not a classic but intriguing contest nonetheless. Congrats to Kilcoo on their hard earn win. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3346 - 12/02/2022 19:16:11 2399974 Link