TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 193 - 11/03/2023 09:37:23    2463304

Safe to say its big game week, whats everyone's predictions for the weekend and will we see any surprise selections, I for one would like to see mc manus start if Jack isn't fit and maybe see Mohan start inside especially if Lavelle is fit.

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 13/03/2023 16:07:31    2463757

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 143 - 13/03/2023 21:17:08    2463815

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 346 - 14/03/2023 13:05:27    2463879

What's the story with covered stand tickets for Sunday in Clones.......season ticket holders & blazers only ?

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 346 - 15/03/2023 16:10:30    2464082

Does any know if there doing a double or single league for the club football this year?

Edd,South(EU) (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 17/03/2023 13:24:15    2464352

So if monaghan win today we are safe this year iam I rite in saying

Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 52 - 19/03/2023 09:10:23    2464637

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 277 - 19/03/2023 15:03:08    2464735

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 277 - 19/03/2023 15:09:52    2464742

That was the worst game I've seen n not from the players but from the management. 20 mins left no subs warming up n the managers standing like gormless twats. The only good thing was that Kelly wasn't wheeled on.

Monaghanfan123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 19/03/2023 15:27:22    2464747

Only positives today were karl gallagher and mcmanus looking sharp when he came on otherwise was like every tyrone monaghan game for past 20 years men v boys. We are out of lifes am afraid in div 1 survival stakes and will be relegated next weekend.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1798 - 19/03/2023 16:00:08    2464769

Groundhog day, stupidity is the only apt word to describe that, selection lacked logic, O Hanlon, Mc Manus not starting to name just two.
Kidnap a couple of the journeymen, play our best players from the start against Mayo ffs, and just go for it, you'd never know

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 19/03/2023 16:42:19    2464801

A very inept performance all round. Gulf between Monaghan and the top teams is clear. When McElearney and Mullignan came on they didn't look physically like intercounty players, Jason Irwin too. They are not ready for inter-county football. It's good they got game time in the league, that's what they need but can't see them starting later in the year. They should know what is needed at this level now (the gym).

The forward play was very laboured. There was no thrust. O'Hanlon a big miss there at the start.

Don't really understand why Francie Hughes was taken off. Monaghan lost about 2 stone and 6 inches around the middle of the park against a big Tyrone midefield. This type of change has happened in pretty much all the games. Happy to see O'Connell on, but the wrong man was taken off. And Ward should have been off as soon as he got injured, it was obvious he couldn't continue and pointless in a game that was already over.

The Shane Carey thing continues to baffle. In the second half he miskicked a free 5 metres and caused mayhem, on another day it would have lead to a goal. It's like Monaghan aren't allowed to start a game unless he plays.

No idea why Lavelle was sent off and thought the other red card was very harsh, Monaghan barely laid a glove on Tyrone and somehow got 2 red cards.

Next time out should see the team for the championship get a run out. That means McManus and O'Connell need to start. I'd give Frances Hughes another run in midfield, Mayo have plenty of heft there. ANything less than that and we'll be wiped out again.

PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 19/03/2023 19:33:36    2464879

What did we honestly expect management to do with 20 minutes to go?
Losing Ryan Wylie and Conor Boyle was a massive blow to our defence. It was a patched together defence with Darren spending a lot of time full back and McCarthy at half back. Two blatent black cards bot giving in the first half to Tyrone. Felt 3 points down at half time wasnt too bad considering we conceded two goals.
Then we have Jack not having his cleverest of moments in a Monaghan jersey, followed by Lavelle's red. The team or management never stood a chance in the second half.

O'Hanlon not starting was probably only strange decision today.

Not looking good for next weekend. But you never know.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 19/03/2023 19:35:10    2464881

Monaghanfan123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 19/03/2023 21:16:35    2464938

Monaghan football is in a severe period of decline. No harm to the young fellas who played yesterday, but they are not Division 1 players. We had two young junior club players who were severely out of their depth and other players starting that are not at the standard required for Division 1 football. And other players playing on reputation, becoming a liability to the squad.

The atmosphere in Clones was flat, Monaghan were ill-disciplined, too slow transitioning into attack, it was a game Monaghan never ever looked like winning. Did I read one point was scored from play? Too slight, too small, just take a look at the Canavan lads and see the player that can be produced when "vertically challenged".

I would be taking a serious look at the development structure within the county, we are not producing the players that we need to be producing. We have had "Development Squads" for almost 20 years now, some players have come through, played an Inter-County career & retired, but we are not seeing any level of consistency, but not only that, there's no bite or hunger from players now.

Are we not getting players to play for the county? Are we missing players through injury? Lennon, Boyle, Wylie, Loughran, Mohan - O'Hanlon didn't start?

Maybe when all is said & done, we'll all take a sit back and realise Banty's worth to the county.

everytomdick&harry (Monaghan) - Posts: 10 - 20/03/2023 13:09:03    2465149

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 20/03/2023 13:54:13    2465177

Some facts - 6 of squad are 32 or more. Most of them will likely retire end of this year including some of Monaghan's all time greats. C Walshe and D Wylie retired end of last year. That leaves a big leadership void. This was always going to happen given Monaghan's remarkable retention of players over the past 10-15 years.

It is no small task to create a new culture and new leadership group amongst the players in such a short period of change. This won't happen overnight. Vinny Corey has been tasked with that and it is a huge task. New players will have to be bloodied and the benefits will not be immediate. Some will take to it and thrive while others who are tried will not be up to the standard. There is also the S&C programme needed to build young players up over a few years. You can't shortcut that.

I firmly believe there is brilliant talent in the county but this will take time. Much like Stephen Kenny over the Irish soccer team , Corey will put Monaghan on the right path but may not necessarily the man to lead them to success. I hope he gets it right, but the flatness of the last two performances is very worrying. Those were not the hallmarks of Corey as a player but it remains to be seen if he can inspire them and put together a style of play capable of winning matches. Great players don't necessarily make great managers. I hope Corey can do it.

sleater (Monaghan) - Posts: 151 - 20/03/2023 16:53:09    2465296

Its hard to accept that monaghan are playing their best players in these matches as i agree some of the lads look out of their depth for inter county football. Mgmt cant do anything about kearns ryan mc andrew woods not being available but you cant compete in these games without getting players with some presence about them on the field. Team has lost a lot of physical presence. Its a difficult balancing act blooding new lads and getting a mix of youth and experience but hard to understand players like stephen o hanlon kieran hughes gary mohan not starting yesterday. Wylie Boyle will be needed v mayo. Only hope for next weekend is mayo treat it like a dead rubber but cant see that happening plus we have lost our ability to score from play. The long term problem for monaghan football and it started under malachy was there was 15-20 flogged to death to stay up every year but they were the only ones in the county with the conditioning mental and physical to play at that level and this largely continued under Banty. Now that group is gone and its a rebuild which should have 3 or 4 seasons back. Supporters will need a lot of patience as survival in div 2 will likely be key aim next season.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1798 - 20/03/2023 17:27:50    2465310

Farney2022 (Monaghan) - Posts: 21 - 20/03/2023 17:39:28    2465313