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Championship is really ramping up now and not a dicky bird about senior management being in place which is a real shame as some of the players shining at Junior and Intermediate level may not get their chance this year, when an influx of new talent is probably needed.

On the championship front everything probably went as expected over the weekend...Blayney and Carrick are in big trouble after 2 heavy losses, with Junior shaping up with all the main players in the mix. Scotstown have probably been the surprise package here this year but will surely get it hard against Killanny...it'll be interesting to see anyway.

MonaghanGa3l (USA) - Posts: 15 - 19/09/2022 09:32:06    2441127

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Was in Donaghmoyne yesterday and can honestly say it was the worst tenner I ever spent. Only positive was that it was a sunny day and I got a bit of tan on the top of the head. What has happened to that Carrick team. They just don't have the bottle this year. Relying on stalwarts to get them out of a hole. They're almost certainly heading for Intermediate and the way the are going they won't be returning to Senior any time soon.

Looking at the result in Aughnamullen it looks like Blayneys luck is about to finally run out. They need a miracle from here to finish outside the bottom 2. I think I'm right in saying if Donaghmoyne and Aughnamullen win next week then Carrick and Blayney as they are guaranteed to finish in the bottom 2. As far as I know Blayney and Scotstown are the only clubs that have never been relegated from Senior so this might be the weekend the history books are rewritten.

Think Latton might run Scotstown close this weekend but they need to get a big lead up early if they are to have any chance. Kieran Hughes a big miss for Scotstown. Are Scotstown whimpering or are they about to find another gear? We'll know a lot more this time next week at the 10 o'clock tea break.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 19/09/2022 13:32:55    2441194

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A lot of overreaction to Scotstown's current situation. If Kieran Hughes was fit, they'd have won all 4 group games and topped the group at their leisure. They're still streets ahead. Even their C team is in a Junior Championship semi final! Their u17s last year were in a Div 1 championship final, this year they won the Div 1 league… Last year their u15s won a Div 1 Championship, and this year they are in a Div 1 championship final.. They're going to dominate for a long long time. We might see them pipped to the odd championship here and there, but realistically, no club in Monaghan has the population to topple them, unless one of the big towns get their act together. The huge player pool combined with the brilliant underage structure, it's very hard to see anybody overtaking them in the next 10-15 years.
On another note, what on earth is going on in Castleblayney and Monaghan Harps? Castleblayney going down to Intermediate and Harps likely going down to Junior. These are clubs with a bigger player pool to pick from than 99% of clubs in Monaghan. Mind boggling.

HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 19/09/2022 16:21:41    2441238

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QF predictions for this weekend:
Scotstown to beat Latton by 8 pts
Ballybay to beat Truagh by 4 pts
Corduff to beat Seans by 6 pts
Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 6 pts

The relegation groups are good value. Appears that the showdown in Intermediate will be in round 3 with Harps playing Tyholland to see who reaches 3rd and gets to the play off.
In senior, Aughnamullen had a great win last week and if results go as expected this weekend, the group could be wrapped up after round 2!

Junior, it looks like it will be a Killanny Clones final, with Killanny shading it..

Senior is wide open at the moment, Scotstown appears to have regressed a bit, up to the other clubs to take their opportunity.
Think Intermediate is between Magheracloone, Corduff and Emyvale. Could go any way.

Donelli (Monaghan) - Posts: 57 - 20/09/2022 09:12:16    2441267

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Replying To Donelli:  "QF predictions for this weekend:
Scotstown to beat Latton by 8 pts
Ballybay to beat Truagh by 4 pts
Corduff to beat Seans by 6 pts
Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 6 pts

The relegation groups are good value. Appears that the showdown in Intermediate will be in round 3 with Harps playing Tyholland to see who reaches 3rd and gets to the play off.
In senior, Aughnamullen had a great win last week and if results go as expected this weekend, the group could be wrapped up after round 2!

Junior, it looks like it will be a Killanny Clones final, with Killanny shading it..

Senior is wide open at the moment, Scotstown appears to have regressed a bit, up to the other clubs to take their opportunity.
Think Intermediate is between Magheracloone, Corduff and Emyvale. Could go any way."
Scotstown to beat Latton by 4 pts. Truagh to beat Ballybay by 5 points. Seans to beat Corduff by 2 pts. Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 9 pts. Scotstown,Magheracloone and Clones to win Championships. Carrick and Donaghmoyne to Intermediate. Tyholland and Blackhill to Junior.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 293 - 20/09/2022 17:49:07    2441347

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Scotstown to beat Latton by 4 pts. Truagh to beat Ballybay by 5 points. Seans to beat Corduff by 2 pts. Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 9 pts. Scotstown,Magheracloone and Clones to win Championships. Carrick and Donaghmoyne to Intermediate. Tyholland and Blackhill to Junior."
I feel Truagh and Ballybay may be a draw, do these games go to a replay or extra time? I also see Corduff beating Sean's by 4 points+ but agree with your other two predictions.

On the relagation I don't think Blackhill can be relegated from Intermediate, my bet would be Toome. I also feel Castleblayney may get relegated from Senior

FarFrom (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 20/09/2022 20:49:53    2441364

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Replying To FarFrom:  "I feel Truagh and Ballybay may be a draw, do these games go to a replay or extra time? I also see Corduff beating Sean's by 4 points+ but agree with your other two predictions.

On the relagation I don't think Blackhill can be relegated from Intermediate, my bet would be Toome. I also feel Castleblayney may get relegated from Senior"
I think the winners of this year's senior championship will come from the truagh/ballybay game… which I think is hard to call….. blackhill can still go junior they still have to play there league relagation game unless they win the intermediate championship…. Still feel harps and tyholland will go down… Blayney/carrick will go this weekend…. Killanny will win junior…

jakeezme5 (Monaghan) - Posts: 13 - 21/09/2022 09:38:50    2441382

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Scotstown to beat Latton by 4 pts. Truagh to beat Ballybay by 5 points. Seans to beat Corduff by 2 pts. Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 9 pts. Scotstown,Magheracloone and Clones to win Championships. Carrick and Donaghmoyne to Intermediate. Tyholland and Blackhill to Junior."
Scotstown to beat Latton by 6
Ballybay to beat Truagh by 1
Corduff to beat Sean's by 4
Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 3

Harps and Tyholland to go junior
Carrick and Blaney to go intermediate

It wouod be a sad sight to see monaghan biggest town in junior and 2&3rd biggest in intermediate. Why can't these towns with bigger populations push on? Is it a cultural thing for town teams?

MonaghanBoi (Monaghan) - Posts: 44 - 21/09/2022 11:29:55    2441391

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Are the faughs definitely gone if they lose? Donaghmoyne with a chance to write history if so- I wouldn't bank on the fotenoys doing it but there form has been steady this year. What a fall from grace for the faughs since 2003, although you could say they have always managed to stay up since then. What has gone wrong?
I'm astounded at monaghan harps, beaten finalists only in 2015-for the county town team to be junior is shocking. It really is and all monaghan harps should be hugely disappointed in this if it happens.
In other news, any update on a new manager for 2023.

222 (UK) - Posts: 613 - 21/09/2022 11:49:44    2441395

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Monaghan county board need to commission a special review into the failings of Carrick,Blayney and Harps.

The fact that the three town represent a third of the population and won't be competing in the senior grade next year is embarrassing for all three clubs.
For Monaghan to have been successful over the last 10 years is incredible considering only 4 players have started a championship game for the county from them clubs in that time frame.

Monaghan football as a whole to maximise its potential we need the like of Carrick, Blayney and Harps to be competing for senior titles.

On the Manager front, I heard a high profile former intercounty manager has been approached. Travel time might be the only issue though.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1881 - 21/09/2022 13:48:26    2441419

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Monaghan county board need to commission a special review into the failings of Carrick,Blayney and Harps.

The fact that the three town represent a third of the population and won't be competing in the senior grade next year is embarrassing for all three clubs.
For Monaghan to have been successful over the last 10 years is incredible considering only 4 players have started a championship game for the county from them clubs in that time frame.

Monaghan football as a whole to maximise its potential we need the like of Carrick, Blayney and Harps to be competing for senior titles.

On the Manager front, I heard a high profile former intercounty manager has been approached. Travel time might be the only issue though."
I read an RTE sport article that former Clare manager Michael McDermott might be in the running. He as won senior championships at Kilmurray-Ibrickane, Monaleen, Ramor United and last year with Wolfe Tones in Meath. That is a record similar to Malachy O'Rourke before he got the Monaghan job. That seems like the sort of profile that the players would respect

sleater (Monaghan) - Posts: 129 - 21/09/2022 15:30:29    2441437

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Replying To 222:  "Are the faughs definitely gone if they lose? Donaghmoyne with a chance to write history if so- I wouldn't bank on the fotenoys doing it but there form has been steady this year. What a fall from grace for the faughs since 2003, although you could say they have always managed to stay up since then. What has gone wrong?
I'm astounded at monaghan harps, beaten finalists only in 2015-for the county town team to be junior is shocking. It really is and all monaghan harps should be hugely disappointed in this if it happens.
In other news, any update on a new manager for 2023."
I would put money on a blayney win. The hand of history on the shoulders of Donaghmoyne especially against Blayney will weigh too heavy.. blayney will win this one.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 352 - 21/09/2022 18:46:23    2441467

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Replying To muckla:  "I would put money on a blayney win. The hand of history on the shoulders of Donaghmoyne especially against Blayney will weigh too heavy.. blayney will win this one."
Like 2020!

222 (UK) - Posts: 613 - 21/09/2022 19:08:54    2441468

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Replying To jakeezme5:  "I think the winners of this year's senior championship will come from the truagh/ballybay game… which I think is hard to call….. blackhill can still go junior they still have to play there league relagation game unless they win the intermediate championship…. Still feel harps and tyholland will go down… Blayney/carrick will go this weekend…. Killanny will win junior…"
As far as I'm aware it's only the bottom team from the league that plays 3rd place from relegation play offs. This would probably mean a Toome vs Harps playoff and I would fancy Harps to win.

FarFrom (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 21/09/2022 19:30:42    2441470

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Scotstown to beat Latton by 5
Truagh to beat Ballybay by 1
Donaghmoyne to beat Blayney by 10
Aughnamullen to beat Carrick by 15

Corduff to be Sean's by 4
Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 4
Cremartin to beat Tyholland by 4
Doohamlet to beat Harps by 7

Sorry lads can't see many upsets this weekend. Truagh Ballybay the pick of the games outside of that results should be straightforward. Carrick manager quit during the week so the players are taking over themselves for the rest of the year. Think Aughnamullen will give them a hiding this weekend.

Scotstown to limp to the final but lose to Truagh on the day. Carrick and Blayney relegated this weekend.

Magheracloone to beat Corduff in the final in Intermediate. Harps finish bottom of championship group. Blackhill beat Tyholland in league play off. Harps Tyholland to Junior.

Clones to beat Killanny in Junior final.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 21/09/2022 19:34:30    2441471

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "Scotstown to beat Latton by 5
Truagh to beat Ballybay by 1
Donaghmoyne to beat Blayney by 10
Aughnamullen to beat Carrick by 15

Corduff to be Sean's by 4
Emyvale to beat Blackhill by 4
Cremartin to beat Tyholland by 4
Doohamlet to beat Harps by 7

Sorry lads can't see many upsets this weekend. Truagh Ballybay the pick of the games outside of that results should be straightforward. Carrick manager quit during the week so the players are taking over themselves for the rest of the year. Think Aughnamullen will give them a hiding this weekend.

Scotstown to limp to the final but lose to Truagh on the day. Carrick and Blayney relegated this weekend.

Magheracloone to beat Corduff in the final in Intermediate. Harps finish bottom of championship group. Blackhill beat Tyholland in league play off. Harps Tyholland to Junior.

Clones to beat Killanny in Junior final."
Good post hard to argue with those predictions although I think Killanny will beat Clones in the final.

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 21/09/2022 20:59:37    2441482

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Almost exactly 10 years later...really?

https://www.hoganstand.com/article/index/176900

moodoo (Monaghan) - Posts: 432 - 21/09/2022 21:00:23    2441483

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Replying To moodoo:  "Almost exactly 10 years later...really?

https://www.hoganstand.com/article/index/176900"
That is mad. The Monaghan job seems to attract a v small number of people. It's actually mad div 3 and 4 sides can wrap up their management appointments far faster than likes of monaghan and donegal. I'll be honest know little about mcdermott and have forgotten his time with Clare as so long ago.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1708 - 21/09/2022 21:36:28    2441487

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Replying To FarFrom:  "As far as I'm aware it's only the bottom team from the league that plays 3rd place from relegation play offs. This would probably mean a Toome vs Harps playoff and I would fancy Harps to win."
The 4 clubs in the Inter championship relegation group are Doohamlet, Cremartin, Harps and Tyholland with Harps and Tyholland currently occupying 3rd and 4th positions.

Magheracloone won group 1 and are straight into the s/f awaiting the winners of Blackhill and Emyvale. Toome won group 2, also straight into a s/f awaiting the winners of Corduff and Sean's.

The only clubs eligible for relegation are the 4 mentioned and Blackhill (if Blackhill does not win the championship).

On current form, Tyholland are most likely to be relegated through the championship with Blackhill and Harps battling it out in the playoff.

Onesolo (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 21/09/2022 21:40:11    2441490

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Replying To FarFrom:  "As far as I'm aware it's only the bottom team from the league that plays 3rd place from relegation play offs. This would probably mean a Toome vs Harps playoff and I would fancy Harps to win."
Blackhill lost that playoff game to toome so I think it's blackhill will b playing harps ! Well at least I think am right?

jakeezme5 (Monaghan) - Posts: 13 - 21/09/2022 21:46:01    2441491

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