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Replying To Jjoniel79: "Scotstown and Dublin have an excellent culture and structure of success. They're both coming to the end of a cycle of absolute dominance but unlike others it won't take a decade to reload. Historically clubs like Carrick, Harps, Truagh, Emyvale and lately blayney are blighted with committees that have priorities outside of winning on the field which is why they consistently under perform and truthfully, contribute very little to county teams in comparison to Latton, Ballybay, Clontibret who all have far smaller areas to pick from." Interesting. What are these committees doing in those outfits? A Carrickmacross club man once said to me that for a lot of people in that club the strictly come dancing was a bigger event on the calender than the senior championship. I suppose, at least a Carrick man had a chance of winning the strictly come dancing. Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1182 - 27/10/2023 11:39:30 2510609 Link
Intermediate final on Sunday, should be a good game , Carrick massive favourites with the bookies and should get over the line by 5 or more points , 2 evenly matched teams but carrick have the more scoring power with the 2 o hanlons, lynch , conlon, carolan, and swinburne, Lynch the main man , all eyes on o hanolan but lynch makes them tick j conlon in midfield still moving brilliantly ( doing it a long time) Plenty of strong defenders , Cromwell, mc enaney , mc menamin , meehan and mc geown That's a lot of good players Killanny haven't as many scoring threats , Walsh the main scorer, but leegan has caused defenses a lot of trouble this year, he scored 1 goal and got taken down for the pen v harps, and k Collins, so if carrick keep them 3 in tow, they ll go a long way to winning it , connolly in midfield is moving well, and in defense they have plenty of experience, 2 duffys, berg , grimes , Vernon, leegan , all decent defenders , 1 interesting side note , 2 brothers togging out on different teams Jamie Guinan for carrick and ciaran Guinan for killanny That doesn't happen very often MONAGHAN1985 (Monaghan) - Posts: 88 - 27/10/2023 11:45:16 2510611 Link
When did Kilanny last win a championship? All their recent success has been through the league or on the back of a Clones double last year as far as I remember. Hard to see it changing against a decent Carrick side. sporto (Monaghan) - Posts: 181 - 27/10/2023 14:38:23 2510642 Link
Replying To Jjoniel79: "Scotstown and Dublin have an excellent culture and structure of success. They're both coming to the end of a cycle of absolute dominance but unlike others it won't take a decade to reload. Historically clubs like Carrick, Harps, Truagh, Emyvale and lately blayney are blighted with committees that have priorities outside of winning on the field which is why they consistently under perform and truthfully, contribute very little to county teams in comparison to Latton, Ballybay, Clontibret who all have far smaller areas to pick from." Scotstown contest strongly in all underage competitions and have a policy of participation. They decide their underage teams via age and not ability to maximise playing time for all kids. This is why they will dominate Monaghan football for the future veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 27/10/2023 15:31:15 2510656 Link
Replying To sporto: "When did Kilanny last win a championship? All their recent success has been through the league or on the back of a Clones double last year as far as I remember. Hard to see it changing against a decent Carrick side." Think they won one in the late 70s? veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 27/10/2023 15:38:39 2510658 Link
Does anyone know when the new Monaghan jersey will be available to buy? MuineachanAbu (Monaghan) - Posts: 660 - 27/10/2023 16:00:12 2510662 Link
Replying To MONAGHAN1985: "No, took the decision early on the year to finish out odd numbers this year and reverting back to 14,16 and 18 next year" Not sure if that's the case!!! It's a big topic for debate!! Tyrone and other counties went back to U18's this year and it's really dragging on because of the players involved in senior teams and now people away to college and competition are dragging out! The problem is U17 at county level…. The county will hold up both U16/U18 competitions! And both will clash… It's troublesome to run both competitions off as players be involved at both age codes! Monaghan have been very clever over the past 2 years running an U19 comp in 2022 that got a good buy in from clubs that ran most of the year!! This year they ran an U18 comp but got poor buy in from clubs, yet games were provided!! And the comp was wrapped up before clashing with exams! Some players loose interest straight away exams as there's parties,results nights, debs, 18ths to attend!! A decision will need to be clarified soon as players need structure for their clubs to provide winter training! GAA at top level need to show leadership on the topic… I personally think you can't run an U16 and U18 competition when co.minor is U17 as there is too much uncertainty over fixtures and games being rescheduled as a result! When do you run off both U16 and U18 competitions and have you co.17's involved? farneygossip (Monaghan) - Posts: 38 - 27/10/2023 16:04:03 2510664 Link
Replying To MONAGHAN1985: "Intermediate final on Sunday, should be a good game , Carrick massive favourites with the bookies and should get over the line by 5 or more points , 2 evenly matched teams but carrick have the more scoring power with the 2 o hanlons, lynch , conlon, carolan, and swinburne, Lynch the main man , all eyes on o hanolan but lynch makes them tick j conlon in midfield still moving brilliantly ( doing it a long time) Plenty of strong defenders , Cromwell, mc enaney , mc menamin , meehan and mc geown That's a lot of good players Killanny haven't as many scoring threats , Walsh the main scorer, but leegan has caused defenses a lot of trouble this year, he scored 1 goal and got taken down for the pen v harps, and k Collins, so if carrick keep them 3 in tow, they ll go a long way to winning it , connolly in midfield is moving well, and in defense they have plenty of experience, 2 duffys, berg , grimes , Vernon, leegan , all decent defenders , 1 interesting side note , 2 brothers togging out on different teams Jamie Guinan for carrick and ciaran Guinan for killanny That doesn't happen very often" Happened in 2011 I thibk with Carrick v corduff 222 (UK) - Posts: 844 - 27/10/2023 16:12:44 2510665 Link
Replying To 222: "Happened in 2011 I thibk with Carrick v corduff" Not a final but did Donaghmoyne play blackhill last year ? 2 brothers against one another veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 27/10/2023 16:25:22 2510668 Link
Carrick walked a double in 2017, Inniskeen went up on their tails, hard to believe 6 years later, who is where 222 (UK) - Posts: 844 - 27/10/2023 16:38:42 2510670 Link
Replying To farneygossip: "Not sure if that's the case!!! It's a big topic for debate!! Tyrone and other counties went back to U18's this year and it's really dragging on because of the players involved in senior teams and now people away to college and competition are dragging out! The problem is U17 at county level…. The county will hold up both U16/U18 competitions! And both will clash… It's troublesome to run both competitions off as players be involved at both age codes! Monaghan have been very clever over the past 2 years running an U19 comp in 2022 that got a good buy in from clubs that ran most of the year!! This year they ran an U18 comp but got poor buy in from clubs, yet games were provided!! And the comp was wrapped up before clashing with exams! Some players loose interest straight away exams as there's parties,results nights, debs, 18ths to attend!! A decision will need to be clarified soon as players need structure for their clubs to provide winter training! GAA at top level need to show leadership on the topic… I personally think you can't run an U16 and U18 competition when co.minor is U17 as there is too much uncertainty over fixtures and games being rescheduled as a result! When do you run off both U16 and U18 competitions and have you co.17's involved?" It's happened at the county board meeting in February or March, ask your club rep MONAGHAN1985 (Monaghan) - Posts: 88 - 27/10/2023 17:56:21 2510679 Link
Replying To 222: "Happened in 2011 I thibk with Carrick v corduff" No, pretty sure both Gary and conor played for carrick that day, conor only transferred 2 of 3 years ago MONAGHAN1985 (Monaghan) - Posts: 88 - 27/10/2023 17:58:12 2510680 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Scotstown contest strongly in all underage competitions and have a policy of participation. They decide their underage teams via age and not ability to maximise playing time for all kids. This is why they will dominate Monaghan football for the future" This is exactly it. My own club has some of the best facilities in the county, but sadly for the juveniles of the parish some that run the show that think that the club is for themselves and their own children and that's been the case for decades. It's led to decades of underachievement and embarrassment at senior level that's now become the norm. It's why the usual contenders are always in the mix for Mick Duffy too, very few players on the field are there without merit. Makes you wonder where the county team would be if these clubs could be whipped into shape - maybe with a more heavy handed approach from the county board. Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 27/10/2023 18:32:54 2510681 Link
Replying To MONAGHAN1985: "No, pretty sure both Gary and conor played for carrick that day, conor only transferred 2 of 3 years ago" Would Christopher have been with Corduff? Gary and Conor with Carrick? eirekeeper (Monaghan) - Posts: 119 - 27/10/2023 20:29:46 2510694 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Scotstown contest strongly in all underage competitions and have a policy of participation. They decide their underage teams via age and not ability to maximise playing time for all kids. This is why they will dominate Monaghan football for the future" Can you explain that? Or is it just that they don't play good u11s at u13 level at the expense of u13s, etc?? Thanks. wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1729 - 27/10/2023 22:12:17 2510699 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: "Can you explain that? Or is it just that they don't play good u11s at u13 level at the expense of u13s, etc?? Thanks." So from u6 onwards players play at their age level on skill level. U7 with u7, u8 with u8 etc. This continues all the way to u15. This year they had 3 x u13 and 3x15 teams. Most clubs divide then into ability because they want to win underage div 1 titles.. In your original question .. it should be why would you play good u11s!? Most clubs do that because they want to win…it's no coincidence that Scotstown are where they are with the amount of players comin* through. veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 28/10/2023 08:15:08 2510708 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "So from u6 onwards players play at their age level on skill level. U7 with u7, u8 with u8 etc. This continues all the way to u15. This year they had 3 x u13 and 3x15 teams. Most clubs divide then into ability because they want to win underage div 1 titles.. In your original question .. it should be why would you play good u11s!? Most clubs do that because they want to win…it's no coincidence that Scotstown are where they are with the amount of players comin* through." Indeed, ask most 18/19 year olds about the u11/13 medals they won and they'll tell you they couldn't care less, they want to push on to their senior teams and they win senior trophy's. Juvenile trophies are for mammies and daddies with very little going on in their own lives. In fact I believe in Limerick where they've gone from rank outsiders to perennial favourites, their juvenile competitions are 'non competitivel'. Inclusion and game time FOR ALL is the name of the game. Winners don't win by accident, they win because they work smarter - then harder than everyone else. Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 28/10/2023 16:05:42 2510740 Link
Well done Killanny Geraldine's on great win. Nobody gave them a chance but they delivered in style. Testament to great work done at youth level over last decade and beyond. barroboys (Louth) - Posts: 101 - 29/10/2023 16:51:32 2510850 Link
Fair play to Killanny, they just wanted it more in extra time today. When the going got tough Carrick had no answers. An abject year for both Carrick and Blayney in Intermediate this year, back to the drawing board for both, the town teams in this county really being shown up by the country clubs in recent years. Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 189 - 29/10/2023 17:40:22 2510856 Link
Huge win after a truly dogged display from Killanny. They looked beaten a few times during the second half but Carrick never could break beyond a 2 point lead. Murray, Vernon and the Duffys lead the charge physically,with Walsh adding some big scores. Carrickmacross remain an enigma. They played very cautious football when the game was there for the taking. Lynch and Ohanlon were bullied out of the game by all means necessary from Killanny. When Carrick went direct they had Killanny in bother but poor decisions and loose passes repeatedly scuppered their attack. Cremartin, Killanny, Corduff and Aughnamullen all senior next year. Not sure if that's a sign of strength or weakness in the Monaghan club scene. Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1182 - 29/10/2023 19:26:08 2510869 Link