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Replying To conjack76:  "Any chance getting Andrew Woods back in the county colours, thought he was excellent yesterday."
He was excellent for the county too, would have been huge this year given we were just a player or two short of pushing for home against Dublin.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 23/10/2023 11:50:55    2509799

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Replying To Oriel23:  "Maybe its time to look at the Kerry model with their county championship. Monaghan could create 5 divisional teams to compete for Mick Duffy each year.

North - Emyvale, Harps, Truagh, Tyholland, Scotstown
West - Aghabog, Clones, Currin, Eire Og, Killeevan, Rockcorry & Seans
East - Blayney, Clontibret, Cremartin, Doohamlet, Oram, Toome
Mid - Aughnamullen, Ballybay, Blackhill, Drumhowen, latton
South - Carrick, Corduff, Donaghmoyne, Inniskeen, Kilanny, Magheracloon.

We could regrade the senior championship to 8 clubs, who can not then play with the their divisional team, and proceed with a 13 team Senior county championship. Junior and Intermediate championships would continue to be played.

I think it would offer smaller club players an opportunity to contest for a Mick Duffy and create a spring board to the county team."
Who contests Ulster then if a divisional side win? How do you propose the players play a junior championship and senior championship ?

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 23/10/2023 13:08:40    2509840

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "Made it to the Junior final on Saturday. A poor final it must be said, full of mistakes which is to be expected with a heavy pitch. Blackhill probably just about had more scores coming from the forwards but feel Tyholland would have won if they had to turn up at all. Another farce that they play next week again in the league final. If Blackhill manage to show up at all, expect Tyholland to win that easy.

What has happened to Truagh in the last 18 months? The writing was on the wall for them all year but shocking that they have gone from nearly winning the SFC in 2021 to now being relegated to Intermediate. Something has to be seriously wrong in that club at the minute?

A poor showing from Blayney in Intermediate this year it must be said. Knocked out at QF stage in championship and humbled in the league final Sunday. This should be a lesson to Truagh and others who think 'we'll drop down to Intermediate for a year and hammer everyone'. It's not that easy lads!

Jack really was the difference yesterday in the county final. You would have to think it would have been Inniskeen's year if the transfer hadn't to happen. Having said that, Inniskeen missed a massive goal chance and two poor short range frees under the Gerry Arthur stand in the second half. Those mistakes just can't happen against Scotstown. They will be back though, a young team and after this year seeing the fall of Truagh, Ballybay, Latton etc. they really are the only team that might pip Scotstown in the next few years."
Who made that statement?,we will drop to intermediate and hammer everyone..

Monaghanlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 23/10/2023 13:24:41    2509846

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Who contests Ulster then if a divisional side win? How do you propose the players play a junior championship and senior championship ?"
There are a number of options...The last remaining club team in the senior championship would qualify for Ulster. Alternatively the senior league winner could proceed to Ulster..this would bring some much needed importance back to the league. It would paint this weekends game between Latton and Inniskeen in a much different light.

Junior and intermediate clubs in Kerry manage to balance the club and county championship without much agro. Fossa were in the junior championship last year and are in the intermediate final this year while committing players to East Kerry who are back in the county final this year.

The junior and intermediate championship could revert to a backdoor system or even straight knockout.

Oriel23 (Monaghan) - Posts: 4 - 23/10/2023 14:02:50    2509860

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Can someone name all these ex faughsmen who play for blackhill because there is only 2 or 3

tommyjohn (Monaghan) - Posts: 64 - 23/10/2023 14:56:34    2509885

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Replying To Oriel23:  "Maybe its time to look at the Kerry model with their county championship. Monaghan could create 5 divisional teams to compete for Mick Duffy each year.

North - Emyvale, Harps, Truagh, Tyholland, Scotstown
West - Aghabog, Clones, Currin, Eire Og, Killeevan, Rockcorry & Seans
East - Blayney, Clontibret, Cremartin, Doohamlet, Oram, Toome
Mid - Aughnamullen, Ballybay, Blackhill, Drumhowen, latton
South - Carrick, Corduff, Donaghmoyne, Inniskeen, Kilanny, Magheracloon.

We could regrade the senior championship to 8 clubs, who can not then play with the their divisional team, and proceed with a 13 team Senior county championship. Junior and Intermediate championships would continue to be played.

I think it would offer smaller club players an opportunity to contest for a Mick Duffy and create a spring board to the county team."
Definitely a good plan. Think 4 divisional teams would be enough. A bit of thought around the Divisions looking at who has been and is likely to to be senior. The biggest problem is time. Would definitely be great to give junior players s chance to play at a higher level and could do nothing but good for our county team.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 472 - 23/10/2023 15:56:54    2509903

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "He was excellent for the county too, would have been huge this year given we were just a player or two short of pushing for home against Dublin."
He was off travelling wasn't he. No reason why he shouldn't be back involved next year.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 23/10/2023 16:35:12    2509922

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Replying To tommyjohn:  "Can someone name all these ex faughsmen who play for blackhill because there is only 2 or 3"
And ?

Monaghanlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 23/10/2023 16:50:38    2509926

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Replying To tommyjohn:  "Can someone name all these ex faughsmen who play for blackhill because there is only 2 or 3"
Senan o Brien
Hugh Byrne
Darren McElroy
Eimhinn Farrelly
Brandon mccague
Kevin Flanagan

updafaughs (Monaghan) - Posts: 56 - 24/10/2023 10:23:25    2509989

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Replying To updafaughs:  "Senan o Brien
Hugh Byrne
Darren McElroy
Eimhinn Farrelly
Brandon mccague
Kevin Flanagan"
And Daniel Cannon

TheJackel (Monaghan) - Posts: 19 - 24/10/2023 11:03:37    2510001

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Replying To updafaughs:  "Senan o Brien
Hugh Byrne
Darren McElroy
Eimhinn Farrelly
Brandon mccague
Kevin Flanagan"
This gave me a good chuckle I must admit. You compare that (half of them that had quit football entirely and Blackhill reached out to help field a reserve team) to Dermot Malone, Fergal Malone, the Hughes brothers, Merrick, etc that Blackhill have lost to Castleblayney. News flash- if Blackhill didn't reach out to guys from other areas that no longer play football, they'd have about 16 or 17 players.

HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 251 - 24/10/2023 11:19:13    2510011

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Replying To updafaughs:  "Senan o Brien
Hugh Byrne
Darren McElroy
Eimhinn Farrelly
Brandon mccague
Kevin Flanagan"
Michael and Tommy Geehan

UncleBob (Monaghan) - Posts: 1 - 24/10/2023 11:28:18    2510013

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Ah lads give it a break. Theres plenty more to talk about rather than where lads started playing, when they quit and how they came to be with Blackhill. I would say every club has players that started elsewhere and moved clubs.

Lets look forward to Carrick v Kilanny this weekend in the Intermediate final. I think this will be a cracker and can not call who will emerge the winner.

Hoping the Monaghan clubs can represent themselves and their county well when they turn out in Ulster.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 289 - 24/10/2023 11:39:33    2510014

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Replying To Oriel23:  "Maybe its time to look at the Kerry model with their county championship. Monaghan could create 5 divisional teams to compete for Mick Duffy each year.

North - Emyvale, Harps, Truagh, Tyholland, Scotstown
West - Aghabog, Clones, Currin, Eire Og, Killeevan, Rockcorry & Seans
East - Blayney, Clontibret, Cremartin, Doohamlet, Oram, Toome
Mid - Aughnamullen, Ballybay, Blackhill, Drumhowen, latton
South - Carrick, Corduff, Donaghmoyne, Inniskeen, Kilanny, Magheracloon.

We could regrade the senior championship to 8 clubs, who can not then play with the their divisional team, and proceed with a 13 team Senior county championship. Junior and Intermediate championships would continue to be played.

I think it would offer smaller club players an opportunity to contest for a Mick Duffy and create a spring board to the county team."
Regional competition being trialed in Meath starting this week. Worth monitoring

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 336 - 24/10/2023 13:27:21    2510057

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Wouldnt be much point putting scotstown in a regional competition given their pick.

222 (UK) - Posts: 844 - 24/10/2023 13:57:59    2510066

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Replying To 222:  "Wouldnt be much point putting scotstown in a regional competition given their pick."
Agreed. Emyvale, Harps, Truagh and Tyholland Would be very lightly represented on it. McAnespie, Loughran, G Mohan and O Connell probably the only players who would come near it.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 289 - 24/10/2023 14:58:32    2510077

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Replying To Oriel23:  "Maybe its time to look at the Kerry model with their county championship. Monaghan could create 5 divisional teams to compete for Mick Duffy each year.

North - Emyvale, Harps, Truagh, Tyholland, Scotstown
West - Aghabog, Clones, Currin, Eire Og, Killeevan, Rockcorry & Seans
East - Blayney, Clontibret, Cremartin, Doohamlet, Oram, Toome
Mid - Aughnamullen, Ballybay, Blackhill, Drumhowen, latton
South - Carrick, Corduff, Donaghmoyne, Inniskeen, Kilanny, Magheracloon.

We could regrade the senior championship to 8 clubs, who can not then play with the their divisional team, and proceed with a 13 team Senior county championship. Junior and Intermediate championships would continue to be played.

I think it would offer smaller club players an opportunity to contest for a Mick Duffy and create a spring board to the county team."
I think there is a serious gulf in class in teams from the top two teams (Blackhill/ Tyholland) in Junior to Senior.

Not a big fan of these round robin championships… leaves for a lot of dead rubber games..
Could we go back to the old back door system…


Also could we try 12 teams in senior and intermediate leagues to create a higher standard for our County teams…
Have 6 teams in junior and play a double league there!

I think it would create a very competitive platform in both the league and championship for promotion?

Three U17 championships in 4 years is some going for the Faughs!
Them and Scotstown and Carrick are producing good teams at that level the past number of years

farneygossip (Monaghan) - Posts: 38 - 24/10/2023 16:47:27    2510103

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Replying To 222:  "Wouldnt be much point putting scotstown in a regional competition given their pick."
Obviously Scotstown would remain as a club team in the senior championship, along with the other current senior teams. The divisional teams would be made up from the Junior & intermediate clubs and play for Mick Duffy.

The senior championship would expand from the current 10 team championship to 15 teams with the inclusion of the divisional teams. (Or regrade the senior teams to from 10 to 7/8).

Relegation and Promotion would still be in place between the junior/intermediate & senior for the club teams, changing the clubs eligible to represent the divisional team each year..Eg Carrick/Killaney get Promotion to senior, there fore aren't eligible to represent South Monaghan next year. Magheracloon are relegated for next year and will be eligible to represent South Monaghan.

Oriel23 (Monaghan) - Posts: 4 - 24/10/2023 18:26:20    2510122

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Replying To farneygossip:  "I think there is a serious gulf in class in teams from the top two teams (Blackhill/ Tyholland) in Junior to Senior.

Not a big fan of these round robin championships… leaves for a lot of dead rubber games..
Could we go back to the old back door system…


Also could we try 12 teams in senior and intermediate leagues to create a higher standard for our County teams…
Have 6 teams in junior and play a double league there!

I think it would create a very competitive platform in both the league and championship for promotion?

Three U17 championships in 4 years is some going for the Faughs!
Them and Scotstown and Carrick are producing good teams at that level the past number of years"
Donaghmoyne won as many in their time and look at them!

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 24/10/2023 20:25:43    2510134

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Replying To Oriel23:  "Obviously Scotstown would remain as a club team in the senior championship, along with the other current senior teams. The divisional teams would be made up from the Junior & intermediate clubs and play for Mick Duffy.

The senior championship would expand from the current 10 team championship to 15 teams with the inclusion of the divisional teams. (Or regrade the senior teams to from 10 to 7/8).

Relegation and Promotion would still be in place between the junior/intermediate & senior for the club teams, changing the clubs eligible to represent the divisional team each year..Eg Carrick/Killaney get Promotion to senior, there fore aren't eligible to represent South Monaghan next year. Magheracloon are relegated for next year and will be eligible to represent South Monaghan."
So if we were going to do this, Cremartin would be going up against an amalgamation of West Monaghan - Clones, Aghabog, Currin, Killeevan, Eire Og, Seans and Rockcorry next year. Seems a bit unfair! Although, saying that, when Cremartin play Scotstown next year they'll be at a similar disadvantage numbers-wise!
I just don't think this system works in Monaghan as there isn't enough quality teams in Senior unfortunately

HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 251 - 24/10/2023 20:55:47    2510138

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