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Replying To republican: "Great strides is right and really appreciate the comments from other counties. It was a great battling display yesterday, we have speed up front and tenacious defenders. We were just that bit weaker when it came to depth off the bench, I hate to not focus on the guys that got us there but it was a real shame we didn't have Alan Reilly yesterday. If we had a fit Spillane and Reilly I think we would have one with a few to spare.
Fair dues to all involved, we backed up the talk regarding fixtures schedule beforehand. I thought Lally was immense and not sure how he did not make the team of the week! Delighted for McGuiness too after a tough incident against Galway. Cummins was getting a hard time in the first half but came up big with a massive score. Mulligan will be all the better for that experience. We are building nicely so hopefully we can hang on to the full panel and give Div3 a rattle next year.
Sligeach Abu" I thought Down seemed to get a grip of Lally in the second half which definitely took a little of our attacking impetus. His jink is something else with the long bounce. My worry in the past was always that he was a bit wasteful in possession for a county player but he has really tightened up in that regard this year. Looks every bit as important now as Murphy, Carrabine, O' Connor, Lyons, Towey, etc. Plenty of nominees but as a previous poster eluded to, I'd agree he is probably Sligo's most conistent performer in 2024.
Agree fully on Mulligan. He will continue to mature as a footballer and I think he has a very high ceiling.
In terms of subs, Reilly as you suggested could have made an impact if still involved but a half fit Towey would have added serious value in the second half. I'm not sure where he is at in terms of being involved on the club scene this year.
McEntee's plans will as previous posters suggested, likely depend on the situation in Armagh but I'd like him to continue with this group.
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As the year draws to a close on the county scene, just how many from the U.20 winning teams have made the breakthrough to seniors.
2022 team
Jack Lavin. Missed the first half of the year with injury and made a few appearances off the bench. I still believe he needs a new club to progress his career.
Eoghan Smith. Got loads of opportunities and isn't just at the level required yet. Time is on his side.
Oisin Flynn. The fact that he's on the extended panel speaks volumes for his commitment as he never nailed down a starting spot on the U 20. He is certainly still on the radar.
Joe Keaney. Still only 22 and hopefully a good club championship will see him return to the Co set up. He has a lot to offer.
Lee Deignan. Patiently on the bench for most of the league he made a few appearances before starting the last 2 games.
Other players that might come in from that group would be Jack Davitt and Shane Molloy.
2023 team.
Canice Mulligan. Serious player and needs minding. The last really good player from the West division had to retire in his early twenties due to injuries.
Luke Casserly. Got a full game against Tipperary and a few appearances off the bench . Very much in the frame.
Daire O Boyle. Surprised he didn't get more minutes on the pitch. Very good player.Calry badly need him at the moment.
Dylan Walsh. Disappointed. Ran off playing junior soccer at every opportunity until he got injured . May not kick a ball this year for the club. Needs to commit properly next year as he is a serious talent.
Others that may come from that group is Matt Henry.
So I make it 5 from the 2022 team and 4 from the 2023 team
Next year Sloyane, Johnson , Doherty at a minimum should also be drafted in.
There probably won't be that many starting places up for grabs next year if everyone stays fit as we are basically a young team but the subs bench needs a major overhaul.
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Replying To eoinog: "As the year draws to a close on the county scene, just how many from the U.20 winning teams have made the breakthrough to seniors.
2022 team
Jack Lavin. Missed the first half of the year with injury and made a few appearances off the bench. I still believe he needs a new club to progress his career.
Eoghan Smith. Got loads of opportunities and isn't just at the level required yet. Time is on his side.
Oisin Flynn. The fact that he's on the extended panel speaks volumes for his commitment as he never nailed down a starting spot on the U 20. He is certainly still on the radar.
Joe Keaney. Still only 22 and hopefully a good club championship will see him return to the Co set up. He has a lot to offer.
Lee Deignan. Patiently on the bench for most of the league he made a few appearances before starting the last 2 games.
Other players that might come in from that group would be Jack Davitt and Shane Molloy.
2023 team.
Canice Mulligan. Serious player and needs minding. The last really good player from the West division had to retire in his early twenties due to injuries.
Luke Casserly. Got a full game against Tipperary and a few appearances off the bench . Very much in the frame.
Daire O Boyle. Surprised he didn't get more minutes on the pitch. Very good player.Calry badly need him at the moment.
Dylan Walsh. Disappointed. Ran off playing junior soccer at every opportunity until he got injured . May not kick a ball this year for the club. Needs to commit properly next year as he is a serious talent.
Others that may come from that group is Matt Henry.
So I make it 5 from the 2022 team and 4 from the 2023 team
Next year Sloyane, Johnson , Doherty at a minimum should also be drafted in.
There probably won't be that many starting places up for grabs next year if everyone stays fit as we are basically a young team but the subs bench needs a major overhaul." I'm not sure I agree on the new club Eoinog. If we start going down that route, why would clubs bother bringing players through at all. In essence, I hear what you're saying but I think the emphasis needs to be on the player delivering for his team consistently. Ballymote are an intermediate side playing in junior. At the end of the day, Lavin (and any others in the same position) will play 7/8/9 games for his club this year and should be pushing them to win Junior A. The major progression in my opinion will be in the off season/pre season and early league games.
Unless it is a case that the group don't share any ambition of getting up and contending for Intermediate titles (that may be the case, I don't know), I can't see why a move would be the right thing to do. The foundation of the County Player is in his club. Personally, I can't understand how players would leave - especially for another team in the same county. What's worth more - potentially winning an intermediate medal in the future with your own club, or a senior with another?
In terms of names mentioned, I think you're right in that it will be largely the gameday 26 that will see dramatic change before the starting 15. Definitely need some more energy and depth there and you'd hope the guys you've mentioned can add that.
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Keep 15 men on the field and Sligo win that game by a few points to spare and would have won the final against Laois.
Next step for Sligo now is getting promoted to Div 2 and holding their own in that division. Clare did that for about six years and reached All Ireland Quarter final a few times. Louth are doing that now and reached the last 8 at the weekend no reason why Sligo can't do the same in the years ahead.
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I wonder what are the chances of twisting Caroline Currid's arm and getting her involved next year. It might be the right time with the age profile of the squad and how critical it is to instill that winning mentality now. Just a thought that sprung to mind.
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "Keep 15 men on the field and Sligo win that game by a few points to spare and would have won the final against Laois.
Next step for Sligo now is getting promoted to Div 2 and holding their own in that division. Clare did that for about six years and reached All Ireland Quarter final a few times. Louth are doing that now and reached the last 8 at the weekend no reason why Sligo can't do the same in the years ahead." The red card was unlucky. It was a mistimed attempt to punch the ball. It wasn't a dirty stroke and unfortunately these things happen in contact sport. The referee was correct in issuing the straight red . We all wish the Down player a full recovery, unfortunately he got a broken jaw and I believe that he is just 21 some of these days. To answer another poster, I doubt if Caroline Currid would be interested in working with us or indeed if she is what we want at this moment. We still make silly mistakes and we need to work on that first. Caroline will add a bit to the party but you need your house in order first.
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Replying To republican: "I wonder what are the chances of twisting Caroline Currid's arm and getting her involved next year. It might be the right time with the age profile of the squad and how critical it is to instill that winning mentality now. Just a thought that sprung to mind." So if we had Caroline Currid, Mullen tackle would not have been made and Mulligan would not have pulled the jersey for the penalty? Come on - does not seem to be much wrong with this group mentally.
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There was some amount of positives packed into the Sligo performance on Sunday-
- The McGuinness block in normal time and his runs forward were very impressive and inspiring
- Paddy O Connor goal, great run by Lally and I honestly don't know how Paddy wrapped that ball around his waste and still finish so well. One of the best goals I've seen in a Sligo jersey.
-Lee Deignan making a statement, some great scores and runs
- Aidan Devaney - I actually think this was his best display in a Sligo jersey- the saves were elite, a miracle save on the Eddie one but also his kickouts are very good, he didn't put a foot wrong
-Cummins point to go ahead in normal time- he just doesn't miss, very accurate, I thought that was the winner
- Lally for me was our best - his running power and IQ was off the charts- a joy to watch and took the game to Down
- I really enjoyed Lyons and Mullen pace running forward - they were very impressive
- Canice's goal was a great move through the hands, Mullen responded very well to cleaning up the fumble
-Mark Walsh's impact is always exciting and Spillane got a great score
I agree gaa_lover, I feel we would have won if we didn't go down to 14. Hopefully Mullen will learn from that, too aggressive but accidental at the same time.
The management got an incredible amount right and deserve credit. The new gameplan is working well. I did see things we got wrong match up wise and positionally but no point going into on here.
Republican - no chance of Caroline being involved while McEntee is here. He's old school on sport psychology. In fairness to McEntee I hear good things on Mulholland and McLaughlin in the backroom team so again he gets a lot right. McFadden was a big loss but we have improved on forward play. There is something to be said for getting over the line too. We should have beaten Galway and if we are ruthless even with 14 men we could have defended the last Down score better in normal time. I didn't see many learnings on game management and closing it out but a big ask. We had to avoid ET with the new rules and I'm not sure we recognised that a point up.
As everyone on here knows under McEntee we always start the year very poorly. I know an end of year review with the county board will happen but they need to get the team better prepared for that first league game, Laois and Clare last 2 years were performances way below our standards and if you want to get promoted you need to win most of your games. I am not sure if McEntee is staying on but I know it will be his decision. My opinion has improved on him during this year especially. It will be an interesting couple of weeks. If Armagh beat Roscommon I can't see them moving on from McGeeney. Monaghan maybe on the lookout soon. This maybe McEntee's ceiling with us.
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Replying To RealSouthSligo: "So if we had Caroline Currid, Mullen tackle would not have been made and Mulligan would not have pulled the jersey for the penalty? Come on - does not seem to be much wrong with this group mentally." "Come on -" I'm not sure what part of my comment stated that we would have avoided both incidents. I am talking about a native Sligo person who is the best at what she does in a sport where the tiny margins make a difference. I am just saying that every year I see the praise heaped on her and I always think its such a shame she is not involved with Sligo in some way.
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Super post, beat wishes for season ahead to all Ballymote teams
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Replying To Sligonian: "There was some amount of positives packed into the Sligo performance on Sunday-
- The McGuinness block in normal time and his runs forward were very impressive and inspiring
- Paddy O Connor goal, great run by Lally and I honestly don't know how Paddy wrapped that ball around his waste and still finish so well. One of the best goals I've seen in a Sligo jersey.
-Lee Deignan making a statement, some great scores and runs
- Aidan Devaney - I actually think this was his best display in a Sligo jersey- the saves were elite, a miracle save on the Eddie one but also his kickouts are very good, he didn't put a foot wrong
-Cummins point to go ahead in normal time- he just doesn't miss, very accurate, I thought that was the winner
- Lally for me was our best - his running power and IQ was off the charts- a joy to watch and took the game to Down
- I really enjoyed Lyons and Mullen pace running forward - they were very impressive
- Canice's goal was a great move through the hands, Mullen responded very well to cleaning up the fumble
-Mark Walsh's impact is always exciting and Spillane got a great score
I agree gaa_lover, I feel we would have won if we didn't go down to 14. Hopefully Mullen will learn from that, too aggressive but accidental at the same time.
The management got an incredible amount right and deserve credit. The new gameplan is working well. I did see things we got wrong match up wise and positionally but no point going into on here.
Republican - no chance of Caroline being involved while McEntee is here. He's old school on sport psychology. In fairness to McEntee I hear good things on Mulholland and McLaughlin in the backroom team so again he gets a lot right. McFadden was a big loss but we have improved on forward play. There is something to be said for getting over the line too. We should have beaten Galway and if we are ruthless even with 14 men we could have defended the last Down score better in normal time. I didn't see many learnings on game management and closing it out but a big ask. We had to avoid ET with the new rules and I'm not sure we recognised that a point up.
As everyone on here knows under McEntee we always start the year very poorly. I know an end of year review with the county board will happen but they need to get the team better prepared for that first league game, Laois and Clare last 2 years were performances way below our standards and if you want to get promoted you need to win most of your games. I am not sure if McEntee is staying on but I know it will be his decision. My opinion has improved on him during this year especially. It will be an interesting couple of weeks. If Armagh beat Roscommon I can't see them moving on from McGeeney. Monaghan maybe on the lookout soon. This maybe McEntee's ceiling with us." Sligonian, I'd be interested to know things you thought we got wrong match up wise and positionally. Out of interest.
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 56 - 26/06/2024 23:24:57
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Replying To eoinog: "As the year draws to a close on the county scene, just how many from the U.20 winning teams have made the breakthrough to seniors.
2022 team
Jack Lavin. Missed the first half of the year with injury and made a few appearances off the bench. I still believe he needs a new club to progress his career.
Eoghan Smith. Got loads of opportunities and isn't just at the level required yet. Time is on his side.
Oisin Flynn. The fact that he's on the extended panel speaks volumes for his commitment as he never nailed down a starting spot on the U 20. He is certainly still on the radar.
Joe Keaney. Still only 22 and hopefully a good club championship will see him return to the Co set up. He has a lot to offer.
Lee Deignan. Patiently on the bench for most of the league he made a few appearances before starting the last 2 games.
Other players that might come in from that group would be Jack Davitt and Shane Molloy.
2023 team.
Canice Mulligan. Serious player and needs minding. The last really good player from the West division had to retire in his early twenties due to injuries.
Luke Casserly. Got a full game against Tipperary and a few appearances off the bench . Very much in the frame.
Daire O Boyle. Surprised he didn't get more minutes on the pitch. Very good player.Calry badly need him at the moment.
Dylan Walsh. Disappointed. Ran off playing junior soccer at every opportunity until he got injured . May not kick a ball this year for the club. Needs to commit properly next year as he is a serious talent.
Others that may come from that group is Matt Henry.
So I make it 5 from the 2022 team and 4 from the 2023 team
Next year Sloyane, Johnson , Doherty at a minimum should also be drafted in.
There probably won't be that many starting places up for grabs next year if everyone stays fit as we are basically a young team but the subs bench needs a major overhaul." Hi Eoinog,
I generally wouldn't waste my time responding to personal attacks from somebody with an obvious gripe against Ballymote, but these attacks have been persistent for some time now. You also made another comment regarding the state of Corran park and our inability to bring through young players which you later deleted in either cowardice or regret that you had made inaccurate statements driven by a personal agenda towards Ballymote.
Firstly I will deal with your continuous calls on Jack Lavin to leave Ballymote.
I am presuming you have no knowledge of the type of person Jack is. Jack is heavily involved in the club and driving it to keep improving not just on the field but off the field too. Whenever called upon to help in fundraising, underage coaching or whatever it may be he has never said no, and in many instances he is offering his time to the club on his own accord.
He is a credit to his family and his club and is someone we are immensely proud to have in our club.
For any Gael to suggest a player should leave a club for any other reason than the club is about to fold or cannot field or is not training to any credible level is pretty disgusting. I don't like naming other player or clubs but by your logic should Paul McNamara leave Johns, what if St Pats or Castleconnor were to be relegated should Mulligan or Carrabine move on. One of the greatest traits of Seán Carrabine in my eyes is his love for his club and how he drives them on whenever he is available and I think that love and pride of where your from is the epitome of the GAA.
You may retort back Ballymote is a big town and should be doing better.
I agree we should be higher up the divisions in league in championship. But to say there is no ambition or we are not trying is a fallacy.
Ballymote were Senior from 2004 to 2014 and haven't hit those heights since, we took our eye off the ball in terms of underage for a number of years for sure but over the last ten years a serious amount of work is been doing to move the club in the right direction.
It is only now in the last 3 years we are starting to see the players trickle through from this work. If we have everyone fit and available our first 15 would have approx 12 players under the age of 23.
2022 under 20 team - Jack Lavin (Captain) & Cian Kilcoyne
2024 Minor Panel - James Lavin (Captain) & Conor Walsh (only 15)
2024 Manning Cup Panel - 5 players, only St. Marys had as many
Just a few examples above of the progress of our underage players. I know there are no certainties in bringing through players and that drop off in all clubs between the ages of 17 & 21 is a huge issue but we are working hard in Ballymote to drive a cultural change and the likes of Jack Lavin are key drivers in this.
In your deleted comment you also questioned the state of Corran Park and made reference that we don't even cut the grass. This sort of cheap untrue comment highlights again the disingenuous nature of your commentary towards Ballymote.
Again would agree going back a number of years the ground had fallen into disrepair but again a massive amount of work has gone into improving both the pitch and surrounding grounds. I could counter this and comment on other grounds around the county but I'm not in the business of been negative for the sake of it and making personal attacks on other clubs. I would like to say I think most grounds in the county have improved greatly in the past few years. We played in both Farnans and Curry recently and would have to commend both clubs on the improvements to the playing surfaces there. In Ballymote we have a dedicated groundsman who takes great pride in the pitch and we are lucky to have him. We have added a score board and running track in recent years along with new fences and both the stand and dressing rooms have received a facelift, with a new toilet block also constructed.
For all these reasons it makes me think your comments are personal attacks rather than constructive and objective opinion.
When you have time please also research the proposed development to take place in Brother Walfrid and Corran Park, funding already secured for the first phase.
You are entitled to your opinion even if it based on a chip on your shoulder but there is a lot of good happening in Ballymote at the minute, European rowing champions, All Ireland Handball and Boxing Champions, Girls and Boys representing Ireland internationally in Soccer, a thriving Athletic club producing connaught and All Ireland winners and GAA club doing its bloody best to keep improving and most importantly providing a healthy and positive outlet for the young people in our town.
I'm Seán Stagg from Ballymote, who are you Eoinog?
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Replying To SeánStagg: "Hi Eoinog,
I generally wouldn't waste my time responding to personal attacks from somebody with an obvious gripe against Ballymote, but these attacks have been persistent for some time now. You also made another comment regarding the state of Corran park and our inability to bring through young players which you later deleted in either cowardice or regret that you had made inaccurate statements driven by a personal agenda towards Ballymote.
Firstly I will deal with your continuous calls on Jack Lavin to leave Ballymote.
I am presuming you have no knowledge of the type of person Jack is. Jack is heavily involved in the club and driving it to keep improving not just on the field but off the field too. Whenever called upon to help in fundraising, underage coaching or whatever it may be he has never said no, and in many instances he is offering his time to the club on his own accord.
He is a credit to his family and his club and is someone we are immensely proud to have in our club.
For any Gael to suggest a player should leave a club for any other reason than the club is about to fold or cannot field or is not training to any credible level is pretty disgusting. I don't like naming other player or clubs but by your logic should Paul McNamara leave Johns, what if St Pats or Castleconnor were to be relegated should Mulligan or Carrabine move on. One of the greatest traits of Seán Carrabine in my eyes is his love for his club and how he drives them on whenever he is available and I think that love and pride of where your from is the epitome of the GAA.
You may retort back Ballymote is a big town and should be doing better.
I agree we should be higher up the divisions in league in championship. But to say there is no ambition or we are not trying is a fallacy.
Ballymote were Senior from 2004 to 2014 and haven't hit those heights since, we took our eye off the ball in terms of underage for a number of years for sure but over the last ten years a serious amount of work is been doing to move the club in the right direction.
It is only now in the last 3 years we are starting to see the players trickle through from this work. If we have everyone fit and available our first 15 would have approx 12 players under the age of 23.
2022 under 20 team - Jack Lavin (Captain) & Cian Kilcoyne
2024 Minor Panel - James Lavin (Captain) & Conor Walsh (only 15)
2024 Manning Cup Panel - 5 players, only St. Marys had as many
Just a few examples above of the progress of our underage players. I know there are no certainties in bringing through players and that drop off in all clubs between the ages of 17 & 21 is a huge issue but we are working hard in Ballymote to drive a cultural change and the likes of Jack Lavin are key drivers in this.
In your deleted comment you also questioned the state of Corran Park and made reference that we don't even cut the grass. This sort of cheap untrue comment highlights again the disingenuous nature of your commentary towards Ballymote.
Again would agree going back a number of years the ground had fallen into disrepair but again a massive amount of work has gone into improving both the pitch and surrounding grounds. I could counter this and comment on other grounds around the county but I'm not in the business of been negative for the sake of it and making personal attacks on other clubs. I would like to say I think most grounds in the county have improved greatly in the past few years. We played in both Farnans and Curry recently and would have to commend both clubs on the improvements to the playing surfaces there. In Ballymote we have a dedicated groundsman who takes great pride in the pitch and we are lucky to have him. We have added a score board and running track in recent years along with new fences and both the stand and dressing rooms have received a facelift, with a new toilet block also constructed.
For all these reasons it makes me think your comments are personal attacks rather than constructive and objective opinion.
When you have time please also research the proposed development to take place in Brother Walfrid and Corran Park, funding already secured for the first phase.
You are entitled to your opinion even if it based on a chip on your shoulder but there is a lot of good happening in Ballymote at the minute, European rowing champions, All Ireland Handball and Boxing Champions, Girls and Boys representing Ireland internationally in Soccer, a thriving Athletic club producing connaught and All Ireland winners and GAA club doing its bloody best to keep improving and most importantly providing a healthy and positive outlet for the young people in our town.
I'm Seán Stagg from Ballymote, who are you Eoinog?" Well said. That should put him in hos place.
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Replying To SeánStagg: "Hi Eoinog,
I generally wouldn't waste my time responding to personal attacks from somebody with an obvious gripe against Ballymote, but these attacks have been persistent for some time now. You also made another comment regarding the state of Corran park and our inability to bring through young players which you later deleted in either cowardice or regret that you had made inaccurate statements driven by a personal agenda towards Ballymote.
Firstly I will deal with your continuous calls on Jack Lavin to leave Ballymote.
I am presuming you have no knowledge of the type of person Jack is. Jack is heavily involved in the club and driving it to keep improving not just on the field but off the field too. Whenever called upon to help in fundraising, underage coaching or whatever it may be he has never said no, and in many instances he is offering his time to the club on his own accord.
He is a credit to his family and his club and is someone we are immensely proud to have in our club.
For any Gael to suggest a player should leave a club for any other reason than the club is about to fold or cannot field or is not training to any credible level is pretty disgusting. I don't like naming other player or clubs but by your logic should Paul McNamara leave Johns, what if St Pats or Castleconnor were to be relegated should Mulligan or Carrabine move on. One of the greatest traits of Seán Carrabine in my eyes is his love for his club and how he drives them on whenever he is available and I think that love and pride of where your from is the epitome of the GAA.
You may retort back Ballymote is a big town and should be doing better.
I agree we should be higher up the divisions in league in championship. But to say there is no ambition or we are not trying is a fallacy.
Ballymote were Senior from 2004 to 2014 and haven't hit those heights since, we took our eye off the ball in terms of underage for a number of years for sure but over the last ten years a serious amount of work is been doing to move the club in the right direction.
It is only now in the last 3 years we are starting to see the players trickle through from this work. If we have everyone fit and available our first 15 would have approx 12 players under the age of 23.
2022 under 20 team - Jack Lavin (Captain) & Cian Kilcoyne
2024 Minor Panel - James Lavin (Captain) & Conor Walsh (only 15)
2024 Manning Cup Panel - 5 players, only St. Marys had as many
Just a few examples above of the progress of our underage players. I know there are no certainties in bringing through players and that drop off in all clubs between the ages of 17 & 21 is a huge issue but we are working hard in Ballymote to drive a cultural change and the likes of Jack Lavin are key drivers in this.
In your deleted comment you also questioned the state of Corran Park and made reference that we don't even cut the grass. This sort of cheap untrue comment highlights again the disingenuous nature of your commentary towards Ballymote.
Again would agree going back a number of years the ground had fallen into disrepair but again a massive amount of work has gone into improving both the pitch and surrounding grounds. I could counter this and comment on other grounds around the county but I'm not in the business of been negative for the sake of it and making personal attacks on other clubs. I would like to say I think most grounds in the county have improved greatly in the past few years. We played in both Farnans and Curry recently and would have to commend both clubs on the improvements to the playing surfaces there. In Ballymote we have a dedicated groundsman who takes great pride in the pitch and we are lucky to have him. We have added a score board and running track in recent years along with new fences and both the stand and dressing rooms have received a facelift, with a new toilet block also constructed.
For all these reasons it makes me think your comments are personal attacks rather than constructive and objective opinion.
When you have time please also research the proposed development to take place in Brother Walfrid and Corran Park, funding already secured for the first phase.
You are entitled to your opinion even if it based on a chip on your shoulder but there is a lot of good happening in Ballymote at the minute, European rowing champions, All Ireland Handball and Boxing Champions, Girls and Boys representing Ireland internationally in Soccer, a thriving Athletic club producing connaught and All Ireland winners and GAA club doing its bloody best to keep improving and most importantly providing a healthy and positive outlet for the young people in our town.
I'm Seán Stagg from Ballymote, who are you Eoinog?" Excellent response . I was in Ballymote this year and can confirm the facilities have improved. Also, I seen the plans for future development which are very impressive.
Ballymote is an ideal location to host championship games and would be great to see games return back.
Better location than other pitches in South Sligo but we all know why these grounds get these games.
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Replying To SeánStagg: "Hi Eoinog,
I generally wouldn't waste my time responding to personal attacks from somebody with an obvious gripe against Ballymote, but these attacks have been persistent for some time now. You also made another comment regarding the state of Corran park and our inability to bring through young players which you later deleted in either cowardice or regret that you had made inaccurate statements driven by a personal agenda towards Ballymote.
Firstly I will deal with your continuous calls on Jack Lavin to leave Ballymote.
I am presuming you have no knowledge of the type of person Jack is. Jack is heavily involved in the club and driving it to keep improving not just on the field but off the field too. Whenever called upon to help in fundraising, underage coaching or whatever it may be he has never said no, and in many instances he is offering his time to the club on his own accord.
He is a credit to his family and his club and is someone we are immensely proud to have in our club.
For any Gael to suggest a player should leave a club for any other reason than the club is about to fold or cannot field or is not training to any credible level is pretty disgusting. I don't like naming other player or clubs but by your logic should Paul McNamara leave Johns, what if St Pats or Castleconnor were to be relegated should Mulligan or Carrabine move on. One of the greatest traits of Seán Carrabine in my eyes is his love for his club and how he drives them on whenever he is available and I think that love and pride of where your from is the epitome of the GAA.
You may retort back Ballymote is a big town and should be doing better.
I agree we should be higher up the divisions in league in championship. But to say there is no ambition or we are not trying is a fallacy.
Ballymote were Senior from 2004 to 2014 and haven't hit those heights since, we took our eye off the ball in terms of underage for a number of years for sure but over the last ten years a serious amount of work is been doing to move the club in the right direction.
It is only now in the last 3 years we are starting to see the players trickle through from this work. If we have everyone fit and available our first 15 would have approx 12 players under the age of 23.
2022 under 20 team - Jack Lavin (Captain) & Cian Kilcoyne
2024 Minor Panel - James Lavin (Captain) & Conor Walsh (only 15)
2024 Manning Cup Panel - 5 players, only St. Marys had as many
Just a few examples above of the progress of our underage players. I know there are no certainties in bringing through players and that drop off in all clubs between the ages of 17 & 21 is a huge issue but we are working hard in Ballymote to drive a cultural change and the likes of Jack Lavin are key drivers in this.
In your deleted comment you also questioned the state of Corran Park and made reference that we don't even cut the grass. This sort of cheap untrue comment highlights again the disingenuous nature of your commentary towards Ballymote.
Again would agree going back a number of years the ground had fallen into disrepair but again a massive amount of work has gone into improving both the pitch and surrounding grounds. I could counter this and comment on other grounds around the county but I'm not in the business of been negative for the sake of it and making personal attacks on other clubs. I would like to say I think most grounds in the county have improved greatly in the past few years. We played in both Farnans and Curry recently and would have to commend both clubs on the improvements to the playing surfaces there. In Ballymote we have a dedicated groundsman who takes great pride in the pitch and we are lucky to have him. We have added a score board and running track in recent years along with new fences and both the stand and dressing rooms have received a facelift, with a new toilet block also constructed.
For all these reasons it makes me think your comments are personal attacks rather than constructive and objective opinion.
When you have time please also research the proposed development to take place in Brother Walfrid and Corran Park, funding already secured for the first phase.
You are entitled to your opinion even if it based on a chip on your shoulder but there is a lot of good happening in Ballymote at the minute, European rowing champions, All Ireland Handball and Boxing Champions, Girls and Boys representing Ireland internationally in Soccer, a thriving Athletic club producing connaught and All Ireland winners and GAA club doing its bloody best to keep improving and most importantly providing a healthy and positive outlet for the young people in our town.
I'm Seán Stagg from Ballymote, who are you Eoinog?" Well Sean, Delighted that you replied, Nothing like a good debate.
Firstly to clarify a few things.
Jack is a nice lad and great footballer and at no stage did I say anything different. My opinion is that he won't reach his potential playing with his club. The family are steeped in GAA but it didn't stop his father going to new pastures to play at a higher level.
Also I deleted or amended no post.
If the administration did that,then so be it.
You actually agree with me on a number of things most notably the decline in fortunes over the last number of years at underage. You named several rising stars that are currently in the Co set up and if you can hold them it will make the club stronger. Equally I could furnish a list of past former underage players that played for Sligo and ask where are they now? Obviously I'm not going down that road. The last time I was in Corran Park for a game there was a meadow of grass on it, not a white line to be seen. However that was 2 years ago and maybe that comment of mine was unfair as it was a long time ago. You did mention that you have a big population ( I checked the number of polling stations and that's true) but you are still joined at the hip at underage with the Bunnies and you have let your women's team dissolve. All the improvements around the ground are just ordinary maintenance to most clubs.
I have noticed positive developments. You have a very good chairperson and I hope she gets the support. Your 50/50 lotto is now played consistently as opposed to running it for a few months, taking a break and starting again which happened a few times and not in the distant past. There are very ambitious plans afoot and there is a serious allocation of money promised to the area (not just the GAA) I have no personal grudge against anyone in Ballymote or the club itself. All the other accolades that you mentioned with the exception of handball have nothing to do with GAA. My comments should be seen as critical but constructive. This is my opinion of the view of GAA in Ballymote from the outside .
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1978 - 27/06/2024 16:18:38
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Replying To eoinog: "Well Sean, Delighted that you replied, Nothing like a good debate.
Firstly to clarify a few things.
Jack is a nice lad and great footballer and at no stage did I say anything different. My opinion is that he won't reach his potential playing with his club. The family are steeped in GAA but it didn't stop his father going to new pastures to play at a higher level.
Also I deleted or amended no post.
If the administration did that,then so be it.
You actually agree with me on a number of things most notably the decline in fortunes over the last number of years at underage. You named several rising stars that are currently in the Co set up and if you can hold them it will make the club stronger. Equally I could furnish a list of past former underage players that played for Sligo and ask where are they now? Obviously I'm not going down that road. The last time I was in Corran Park for a game there was a meadow of grass on it, not a white line to be seen. However that was 2 years ago and maybe that comment of mine was unfair as it was a long time ago. You did mention that you have a big population ( I checked the number of polling stations and that's true) but you are still joined at the hip at underage with the Bunnies and you have let your women's team dissolve. All the improvements around the ground are just ordinary maintenance to most clubs.
I have noticed positive developments. You have a very good chairperson and I hope she gets the support. Your 50/50 lotto is now played consistently as opposed to running it for a few months, taking a break and starting again which happened a few times and not in the distant past. There are very ambitious plans afoot and there is a serious allocation of money promised to the area (not just the GAA) I have no personal grudge against anyone in Ballymote or the club itself. All the other accolades that you mentioned with the exception of handball have nothing to do with GAA. My comments should be seen as critical but constructive. This is my opinion of the view of GAA in Ballymote from the outside ." You never answered him about other county players from clubs in similar positions eoinog, but that wouldn't suit your narrative on Jack would it now?
The ladies club is a seperate issue but again, your facts are incorrect as the club is being redeveloped from the ground up with an under 10 team the last 2 years and an under 12 team entered this year. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.
I would also say, if you haven't been to Corran Park in 2 years you have no business in commenting on the state of the grounds or indeed the club as, let's face it you know absolutely nothing about Ballymote, it's community or the GAA club so maybe keep the digs to yourself in future.
xwave8000 (Sligo) - Posts: 20 - 27/06/2024 18:24:41
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Replying To eoinog: "Well Sean, Delighted that you replied, Nothing like a good debate.
Firstly to clarify a few things.
Jack is a nice lad and great footballer and at no stage did I say anything different. My opinion is that he won't reach his potential playing with his club. The family are steeped in GAA but it didn't stop his father going to new pastures to play at a higher level.
Also I deleted or amended no post.
If the administration did that,then so be it.
You actually agree with me on a number of things most notably the decline in fortunes over the last number of years at underage. You named several rising stars that are currently in the Co set up and if you can hold them it will make the club stronger. Equally I could furnish a list of past former underage players that played for Sligo and ask where are they now? Obviously I'm not going down that road. The last time I was in Corran Park for a game there was a meadow of grass on it, not a white line to be seen. However that was 2 years ago and maybe that comment of mine was unfair as it was a long time ago. You did mention that you have a big population ( I checked the number of polling stations and that's true) but you are still joined at the hip at underage with the Bunnies and you have let your women's team dissolve. All the improvements around the ground are just ordinary maintenance to most clubs.
I have noticed positive developments. You have a very good chairperson and I hope she gets the support. Your 50/50 lotto is now played consistently as opposed to running it for a few months, taking a break and starting again which happened a few times and not in the distant past. There are very ambitious plans afoot and there is a serious allocation of money promised to the area (not just the GAA) I have no personal grudge against anyone in Ballymote or the club itself. All the other accolades that you mentioned with the exception of handball have nothing to do with GAA. My comments should be seen as critical but constructive. This is my opinion of the view of GAA in Ballymote from the outside ." Last year I stopped posting because of your negative and harmful comments. Proper order the poster called you out for your remarks and others agreed. I didn't intend posting again but I want to commend Sean on the comments he made towards his club (and town) that he obviously loves dearly. Immense work goes into GAA clubs these days, and I know that first hand. To talk negatively about transfers and fundraising initiatives from other clubs is disrespectful. I suggest you mind your own business and worry about your own clubs' fortunes (whatever almighty club that is?). My local club wouldn't survive at underage without the support of Ballymote. While I wasn't always their biggest supporters, I do have respect for them and all other GAA clubs. Its volunteer ran! I'm of the opinion that all clubs don't filter through every underage talent that played for their county, not just Ballymote. Sligo is rural, people move for college, travel and job opportunities. Best wishes to Ballymote in your future developments, the Bunnies and the wider GAA circle will support you.
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Brilliant to see a bit of life on this thread, normally it's as dull as dishwater. I didn't answer the question that if other club players who play for the county were relegated with their club, would I expect them to also move club. I thought it was a non sensical question as no other player is in that position. I was delighted that the referee rejoined us. I can't remember why he left but it was a pity as his posts were generally good. To come out of retirement to jump on the bandwagon could be described as a low blow but I'm no snowflake and hopefully he will continue to post . I seem to court controversy.
It must be the way I am. I could take the easy and popular option like a lot of people and slate MC Entee and say he should be ran. However I have stoutly defended him from day 1 as I believe he is a good manager. The number of dissenting voices have dried up the last few months, I suppose they had no choice. You didn't see me getting carried away and say that we would win the Connacht U.20 and give the All Ireland a good shot like others here. Instead my view was that despite a lot of last year's panel still eligible for this year we were still a weaker team. That's what came to pass. I riled up a few people when I wasn't happy with a certain player getting 2 yellow cards in a half hour of football in a facile win. I hinted that the Mgt would not be too forgiving either and that came to pass. I am happy to go out on a limb and predict games before the throw in (did anyone else predict the outcome of last Sunday's game) rather than wait until the game is over and be very knowledgeable in hindsight. I enjoy the banter, the fun and craic and maybe some of ye would need to lighten up a bit. I'm not posting anymore on this topic. It will get tedious and boring.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1978 - 28/06/2024 11:40:26
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Replying To eoinog: "Brilliant to see a bit of life on this thread, normally it's as dull as dishwater. I didn't answer the question that if other club players who play for the county were relegated with their club, would I expect them to also move club. I thought it was a non sensical question as no other player is in that position. I was delighted that the referee rejoined us. I can't remember why he left but it was a pity as his posts were generally good. To come out of retirement to jump on the bandwagon could be described as a low blow but I'm no snowflake and hopefully he will continue to post . I seem to court controversy.
It must be the way I am. I could take the easy and popular option like a lot of people and slate MC Entee and say he should be ran. However I have stoutly defended him from day 1 as I believe he is a good manager. The number of dissenting voices have dried up the last few months, I suppose they had no choice. You didn't see me getting carried away and say that we would win the Connacht U.20 and give the All Ireland a good shot like others here. Instead my view was that despite a lot of last year's panel still eligible for this year we were still a weaker team. That's what came to pass. I riled up a few people when I wasn't happy with a certain player getting 2 yellow cards in a half hour of football in a facile win. I hinted that the Mgt would not be too forgiving either and that came to pass. I am happy to go out on a limb and predict games before the throw in (did anyone else predict the outcome of last Sunday's game) rather than wait until the game is over and be very knowledgeable in hindsight. I enjoy the banter, the fun and craic and maybe some of ye would need to lighten up a bit. I'm not posting anymore on this topic. It will get tedious and boring." Low blow? Let me remind you of some of your recent posts on the Ballymote club which I would determine low blows - You are asking a 21-year-old to move clubs, ridiculing the clubs' facilities, questioning players ambitions and commitments, inspecting and assessing their fundraising initiatives etc. Do you do this for all clubs? Are you best positioned to comment on such matters? Another question you failed to answer is - what club are you from? Go out on a "limb" and answer the question and also let the forum know how much of your time you give up for your local club. Only for a referee decision and county board decision, Owenmore Gaels club would be playing junior league and junior championship this year - would you be calling for Mark Walsh to transfer in order to "reach his potential"? Look how well they are progressing this year. Clubs build a team around their best players to drive them forward and shouldn't have to worry about a soccer style transfer policy for which you are advocating.
Bloodsub6 (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 28/06/2024 14:05:41
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My predictions for this weekends league games
Coolera beat Shamrock Gaels
St Molaise Gaels beat Tubbercurry
Eastern Harps beat Curry
St Marys beat Coolaney Mullinabreena
Tourlestrane beat Calry
Molaise really seem to be kicking on from last years county final and im sure wont want a repeat of what happened in last years league campaign
Drumcliffe beat St Farnans
Bunninadden beat Castleconnor
Owenmore Gaels beat Geevagh
Enniscrone beat St Pats
Ballymote beat Easkey
Hard to see anyone stopping Drumcliffe although Castleconnor gave them a run for there money last week
Enniscrone and Owenmore gaels look the most likely to take the other promotion spot
Be very interseting to see how many county players will be involved with their clubs this weekend. Cant imagine there will be too many after a grueling game in Croker on Sunday
SligoD (Sligo) - Posts: 13 - 28/06/2024 15:17:18
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